What state should I move to now the Washington State legislature is trying to force me to work seven days a week? (HB 1155)

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Does anybody have any insight into the best states for nurses as far as pay, cost of living, etc?

23 hours ago, Thanksforthedonuts said:

I wholeheartedly agree. Violence is increasingly significantly. And housing prices are still ridiculous pricing out middle class families. Somethings gotta give.

Getting into politics here. There are two sides basically. One side wants people to learn to fish and the other side wants people to be dependent on the fish they give them. It has to do with power and control. That is my take on it.

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27 minutes ago, Forest2 said:

Getting into politics here. There are two sides basically. One side wants people to learn to fish and the other side wants people to be dependent on the fish they give them. It has to do with power and control. That is my take on it.

So the problem is that middle class families need "to learn to fish"?

Just to play the devil's advocate, or maybe I'm feeding a troll, but I came into nursing before 12 hour shifts.

And yes, to support myself, I ended up working 7 days a week for many years, although some of the weekends were relatively light duty.

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2 hours ago, MunoRN said:

So the problem is that middle class families need "to learn to fish"?

Actually everybody should know how to fish - it is a tremendously relaxing activity.

Hppy

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1 hour ago, hppygr8ful said:

Actually everybody should know how to fish - it is a tremendously relaxing activity.

Hppy

Deadliest Catch didn't make it seem too relaxing.

Specializes in Psych, Addictions, SOL (Student of Life).
7 minutes ago, klone said:

Deadliest Catch didn't make it seem too relaxing.

I did love that show - did you know that crab fishing is the most dangerous occupation in the world?

I was thinking more along the lines of a lake a pole and shade tree by the shore. Just me, a line and a fish waiting to be caught. It teaches you to slow down, practice patience and save your energy to land a big catch!"

Hppy

On ‎4‎/‎21‎/‎2019 at 4:58 PM, Emergent said:

Those 3 states are all arid. Mosquitoes are only in certain mountain areas where there is standing water. Parts of Wyoming are the only place that may have bitter cold.

And there is bitter cold in plenty of other states. Just saying.

Could someone start at the start and tell me what this Bill is about?

For those who have never worked 8's - that used to be standard. Now 12's seem to be the norm. Either way, retirement is pretty much better.

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2 hours ago, hppygr8ful said:

I did love that show - did you know that crab fishing is the most dangerous occupation in the world?

I was thinking more along the lines of a lake a pole and shade tree by the shore. Just me, a line and a fish waiting to be caught. It teaches you to slow down, practice patience and save your energy to land a big catch!"

Hppy

I never really got the appeal of fishing, but then my dad would sit for hours trolling in a little boat with a noisy, smelly outboard motor. And then if I actually caught something I had to clean it. Fish guts, yuck. To this day, I cannot stand the smell of fish. But I do enjoy sitting in the shade by water.

Specializes in Psych, Addictions, SOL (Student of Life).
2 minutes ago, nursej22 said:

I never really got the appeal of fishing, but then my dad would sit for hours trolling in a little boat with a noisy, smelly outboard motor. And then if I actually caught something I had to clean it. Fish guts, yuck. To this day, I cannot stand the smell of fish. But I do enjoy sitting in the shade by water.

These days I'm strictly catch and release unless the fish injured or too tired from the fight to recover!

Hppy

Specializes in Public Health, TB.
1 hour ago, Kooky Korky said:

And there is bitter cold in plenty of other states. Just saying.

Could someone start at the start and tell me what this Bill is about?

For those who have never worked 8's - that used to be standard. Now 12's seem to be the norm. Either way, retirement is pretty much better.

The original bill was a law requiring health care facilities to provide for uninterrupted rest breaks for nurses and other certain other health care workers. When I was still working in a hospital in WA state, the employer considered any time off the floor as break, including a quick dash to the rest room. Also, there was no extra staff for break relief, so for a good part of the shift, nurses were carrying double loads to break each other. One senator who was opposed to the bill added an amendment to outlaw any shift greater than 8 hours. In my opinion, this amendment was made to kill the entire bill.

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I used to enjoy a bit of fishing, just chilling on a river bank in the sun.

I don't think I'd ever want to go back to non-12 hour shifts, There were many times I would work a good 6-7 days in a row.

Specializes in Psych, Corrections, Med-Surg, Ambulatory.
14 hours ago, MunoRN said:

So the problem is that middle class families need "to learn to fish"?

No. They need to quit being required to give their fish away.

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