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I came across this is little story today, it's not breaking news. I suspect that a member of the housekeeping staff knows something about the bomb threat that required the sweep for weapons.
https://apnews.com/article/new-jersey-newark-bomb-threats-d0a59b80d460f9354f6bfe86f65475c6
QuoteAccording to police in Secaucus, the bomb threat — which later was determined to be bogus — was called in to Hudson Regional Hospital on July 18. During a search, bomb detection dogs led investigators to an unlocked office closet containing dozens of firearms.
Among the weapons were 11 handguns and 27 rifles or shotguns, according to police. The closet also contained a .45 caliber semi-automatic rifle with a high-capacity magazine that was determined to be an assault rifle, and a 14-round high-capacity handgun magazine.
The arrested the guy the next day.
What the heck do you think this guy was doing? It sounds very ominous that he was keeping those weapons there.
6 hours ago, toomuchbaloney said:Hahaha...I stopped at the notion that we shouldn't discuss the electoral college. That's a laugh.
Perhaps you should read it in its entirety. Perhaps you should read more over all instead of thinking about how you will refute or miss characterize what was said before you finished the first sentence?
19 minutes ago, nursej22 said:So is Fox pointing out a mistake by a media outlet or are they trying to say Pelosi wasn’t actually assaulted? What is the actual point of reporting this? Didn’t the assailant confess?
I wonder why the assailant would throw himself under the bus and say he was there to attack Mrs. Pelosi. The theory that a man in his 80's was at a gay bar and having a fight with a prostitute he brought home is an odd one. Also why would the police even say something different than the conspiracy theories. Are the police in on the cover up? Maybe they are still gathering evidence and there will be more to come?
I'm not what the California laws are about releasing body cam footage without the person's or family's permission.
The Fallwells pool boy threw them under the bus. I can't imagine the alleged assailant not throwing Pelosi under the bus and telling the truth.
5 minutes ago, Weetywill said:Perhaps you should read it in its entirety. Perhaps you should read more over all instead of thinking about how you will refute or miss characterize what was said before you finished the first sentence?
Perhaps, but sometimes when you know, you know. I often stop reading a post or reading an article or watching a video when my gut tells me to do so.
19 minutes ago, Tweety said:I wonder why the assailant would throw himself under the bus and say he was there to attack Mrs. Pelosi. The theory that a man in his 80's was at a gay bar and having a fight with a prostitute he brought home is an odd one. Also why would the police even say something different than the conspiracy theories. Are the police in on the cover up? Maybe they are still gathering evidence and there will be more to come?
I'm not what the California laws are about releasing body cam footage without the person's or family's permission.
The Fallwells pool boy threw them under the bus. I can't imagine the alleged assailant not throwing Pelosi under the bus and telling the truth.
Perhaps, but sometimes when you know, you know. I often stop reading a post or reading an article or watching a video when my gut tells me to do so.
Fair enough but I don't imagine you continue with a long rambling post about something you didn't read entirely either. Right?
So Elise Stefanik tweets " Over 800 pounds of fentanyl were seized at our Southern Border in October. This is Biden’s Border Crisis."
True, the fentanyl problem is now Biden's. Still, I'd like to do a search of her concerns under President Trump that saw a huge increase in the amount of fentanyl seized at the border.
8 minutes ago, Weetywill said:Fair enough but I don't imagine you continue with a long rambling post about something you didn't read entirely either. Right?
Right and I usually admit when I decline to read something someone has posted. Like I didn't watch the video in the book banning thread, or the post here about how hollow the liberals have become about public safety. In that case I found another source for the story and read that one.
29 minutes ago, Tweety said:https://www.washingtonpost.com/media/2022/11/05/nbc-paul-pelosi-retracted-story/
I heard about this viral story a while back.
NBC did the responsible thing and retracted a conspiracy theory they couldn't back up. Who knows if it's true or not but the reporter acted hastily.
What makes you think the reporter acted hastily? It seems doubtful he himself just ran that on the Today Show without anyone else approving it.
No. They made a conscious decision to run it, only to change their mind a few hours later.
Now, a second report by a NBC local affiliate includes many of the same details as the one that was retracted. And, includes a description of Pelosi answering the door by someone who claims to have seen bodycam footage.
Why does the federal indictment differ from the local DA's description on who and how the door was answered? Why hasn't that bodycam footage been released?
It wouldn't matter that much except that Democrats, media, and Biden himself in a primetime speech blamed right wing rhetoric for this attack. I'm not satisfied with leaving it at "who knows if it's true or not?"
25 minutes ago, Beerman said:What makes you think the reporter acted hastily? It seems doubtful he himself just ran that on the Today Show without anyone else approving it.
No. They made a conscious decision to run it, only to change their mind a few hours later.
Now, a second report by a NBC local affiliate includes many of the same details as the one that was retracted. And, includes a description of Pelosi answering the door by someone who claims to have seen bodycam footage.
Why does the federal indictment differ from the local DA's description on who and how the door was answered? Why hasn't that bodycam footage been released?
It wouldn't matter that much except that Democrats, media, and Biden himself in a primetime speech blamed right wing rhetoric for this attack. I'm not satisfied with leaving it at "who knows if it's true or not?"
All good questions and time will tell. I probably should have said "time will tell" rather than "who knows if it's true or not" but that just means I'm willing to stretch my mind a little bit because something does seem off, and because I too want to know the truth..even in its ugliest form. But right now who knows if it's true or not? I'm not willing to believe a conspiracy theory. I need to see proof and evidence of the truth.
I'm not sure what the laws around releasing body cam footage are. I know when a cop kills someone there are laws around making it public. But in cases like this that are more private I'm not sure what the laws in California are. Obviously the spin would be they are trying to hide something.
As far as blaming right wing rhetoric goes I would lay that blame on the alleged assailant himself. That people would speculate conspiracy theory about Pelosi and not this man tells me how far low we've gotten.
"A CBS News review of suspected social media posts by DePape turned up conspiracy theories about Holocaust denial, pedophiles in the government, and claims that Democratic officials run child sex rings."
And his statement: “I’m sick of the insane f------ level of lies coming out of Washington, D.C. I came here to have a little chat with his wife,".....“I didn’t really want to hurt him, but you know this was a suicide mission. I’m not going to stand here and do nothing even if it cost me my life,” it says he added.
He's pleaded not guilty and hopefully the system works and we get answers in due time at a trial.
QuoteAdemola Adedeji tried to picture what the jury saw when they looked at him.
Could they tell that he was the school president? The captain of the rugby team? The older brother who made dinners for his siblings and read them bedtime stories?
Or did they see only Defendant No. 7 in a trial of 10 Black teenagers charged with conspiracy to murder? A gangster, the prosecutors claimed, who waged war on his rivals?
[...]
They Called Him a Gangster Out for Revenge. The Evidence? 6 Text Messages.
Following up re Fentanyl:
Per 2020 DEA report, Fentanyl Flow into the United States, the majority of illegal synthetic Fentanyl coming in from China, then Mexico followed by India.
Transdermal Fentanyl (Duragesic patent name introduced 1990) was a significant breakthrough and godsend to my Hospice patients in 1993, especially cancer patients on high dose morphine as it was time released over 72 hours. In 2018, China President XI pledged after G20 summit Trump meeting to control Fentanyl production; it is now a controlled substance there, reducing some flow to US in 2022. Since it is now cut into illegally produced oral narcotics,it has sullied the name of a very helpful medicine.
KTLA TV September 16, 2022
Where does fentanyl come from? Mostly from outside the United States
NBC News 12/2/2018
China and the United States come to agreement at G-20 summit around fentanyl
27 minutes ago, NRSKarenRN said:Following up re Fentanyl:
Per 2020 DEA report, Fentanyl Flow into the United States, the majority of illegal synthetic Fentanyl coming in from China, then Mexico followed by India.
Transdermal Fentanyl (Duragesic patent name introduced 1990) was a significant breakthrough and godsend to my Hospice patients in 1993, especially cancer patients on high dose morphine as it was time released over 72 hours. Since it is now cut into illegally produced oral narcotics,it has sullied the name of a very helpful medicine.
KTLA TV September 16, 2022
Where does fentanyl come from? Mostly from outside the United States
Ingredients come from China to Mexico. Then Mexico to the US.
Biden just met with Xi. I havent heard of them discussing Fentanyl. Or, the origins of Covid. And, didn't candidate Biden promise to hold China more accountable on various issues than Trump?
All I've heard about their meeting was fluffy nonsensical climate change garbage.
6 hours ago, Weetywill said:Perhaps you should read it in its entirety. Perhaps you should read more over all instead of thinking about how you will refute or miss characterize what was said before you finished the first sentence?
Nah...
I read plenty. It's ridiculous to suggest that we shouldn't discuss the electoral college. I don't feel a need to see what other comments might follow that kind of nonsense.
6 hours ago, Weetywill said:Fair enough but I don't imagine you continue with a long rambling post about something you didn't read entirely either. Right?
A "rambling rant" in your opinion... you are welcome to ignore my comments if they don't interest you.
12 Republicans joined all Democrats to move this legislation forward; final vote may occur on Friday.
Philadelphia Inquirer 11/16/2022
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WASHINGTON — Legislation to protect same-sex and interracial marriages crossed a major Senate hurdle Wednesday, putting Congress on track to take the historic step of ensuring that such unions are enshrined in federal law.
Twelve Republicans voted with all Democrats to move forward on the legislation, meaning a final vote could come as soon as this week, or later this month. Senate Majority Leader Chuck Schumer said the bill ensuring the unions are legally recognized under the law is chance for the Senate to “live up to its highest ideals” and protect marriage equality for all people.....
The legislation would repeal the Clinton-era Defense of Marriage Act and require states to recognize all marriages that were legal where they were performed. The new Respect for Marriage Act would also protect interracial marriages by requiring states to recognize legal marriages regardless of “sex, race, ethnicity, or national origin.”...
...Three Republicans said early on that they would support the legislation and have lobbied their GOP colleagues to support it: Maine Sen. Susan Collins, North Carolina Sen. Thom Tillis and Ohio Sen. Rob Portman. They argued that there was still value in enshrining the rights for such marriages even if the courts don’t invalidate them...In the end, nine of their GOP colleagues joined them in voting for it, bringing the total to twelve and providing enough votes needed to overcome a filibuster in the 50-50 Senate. The other Republicans who voted for the legislation were Sens. Richard Burr of North Carolina, Todd Young of Indiana, Shelley Moore Capito of West Virginia, Mitt Romney of Utah, Joni Ernst of Iowa, Roy Blunt of Missouri, Cynthia Lummis of Wyoming and Lisa Murkowski and Dan Sullivan of Alaska....
nursej22, MSN, RN
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So is Fox pointing out a mistake by a media outlet or are they trying to say Pelosi wasn’t actually assaulted? What is the actual point of reporting this? Didn’t the assailant confess?