I came across this is little story today, it's not breaking news. I suspect that a member of the housekeeping staff knows something about the bomb threat that required the sweep for weapons.
According to police in Secaucus, the bomb threat — which later was determined to be bogus — was called in to Hudson Regional Hospital on July 18. During a search, bomb detection dogs led investigators to an unlocked office closet containing dozens of firearms.
Among the weapons were 11 handguns and 27 rifles or shotguns, according to police. The closet also contained a .45 caliber semi-automatic rifle with a high-capacity magazine that was determined to be an assault rifle, and a 14-round high-capacity handgun magazine.
The arrested the guy the next day.
What the heck do you think this guy was doing? It sounds very ominous that he was keeping those weapons there.
The headline " Fentanyl mega-bust travesty reveals how hollow left’s line on public safety really is..." made me snicker. Sorry not sorry.
Why the snicker?
And, do you think the exploding fentanyl crisis has anything to do with the out of control border situation? I know you believe the border doesn't effect many of us, so m guessing not.
I did take it as a joke. But I can see why he'd be bothered by you singling him out like that. We are all pretty much disagreeable here and the Terms of Service state that we are to stick to the topics rather than make direct attacks (jokes) against another member.
Not bothered so much as amused. Seeing how that I often admit that I agree with a point on the other side, usually you. When on the other hand there are multiple people here that if I said the sky was blue would argue that I'm a victim of right wing propaganda and that I need to expand the variety my media sources.
And, do you think the exploding fentanyl crisis has anything to do with the out of control border situation? I know you believe the border doesn't effect many of us, so m guessing not.
I snickered because it's a ridiculous headline. All of us care about public safety.
I do know that addiction touches all of society. 40 years ago my brother was hooked on heroin, my sister got hooked on Oxycodone, and fentanyl to me just seems an extension of a long-standing American problem that we just can't seem to get a handle on. When they cracked down on Oxycontin, fentanyl became a problem. Or people turned to heroin. My sister did that.
While the fentanyl crisis hasn't touched me personally, I do feel the pain of the people suffering, both the addict and their loved ones.
I can't vouch for this source. The Cato Institute is libertarian and founded many years ago by one of the Koch brothers among others. It is considered a "think tank".
Fentanyl smuggling is ultimately funded by U.S. consumers who pay for illicit opioids: nearly 99 percent of whom are U.S. citizens.
In 2021, U.S. citizens were 86.3 percent of convicted fentanyl drug traffickers—ten times greater than convictions of illegal immigrants for the same offense.
Over 90 percent of fentanyl seizures occur at legal crossing points or interior vehicle checkpoints, not on illegal migration routes, so U.S. citizens (who are subject to less scrutiny) when crossing legally are the best smugglers.
The location of smuggling makes sense because hard drugs at ports of entry are about 97 percent less likely to be stopped than are people crossing illegally between them.
Not really. If a guy in possession if 20,000 fentanyl pills gets released without bail, due to policies championed by the left....
4 minutes ago, Tweety said:
Fentanyl smuggling is ultimately funded by U.S. consumers who pay for illicit opioids: nearly 99 percent of whom are U.S. citizens.
Duh. And if they can buy it cheaply and easily...
Sounds like you're saying it's their choice to do what they want with their body? I guess I hadn't thought of it from that pov.
7 minutes ago, Tweety said:
Over 90 percent of fentanyl seizures occur at legal crossing points or interior vehicle checkpoints, not on illegal migration routes, so U.S. citizens (who are subject to less scrutiny) when crossing legally are the best smugglers.
Again, duh. The illegal crossing points are more difficult to catch smugglers.
Sounds like you're saying it's their choice to do what they want with their body? I guess I hadn't thought of it from that pov.
We'll disagree about the NYP headline.
However, you're quoting the article I linked and attributing it to a quote from me and making a spin that I never said.
I just don't see how the current border situation of people wanting to come to this country has much to do with a long standing drug smuggling problem we've had as long as I've been alive.
I agree with the article that drug smuggling is because of demand by Americans but not the spin you give to it that it's their choice to do with their body what they want. They demand more and more of the drug because they are addicted to it. Addicts don't choose to become addicts.
History tells me that if we get a handle on fentanyl, like we did with Oxycontin, something else will pop up.
BTW, I think you just gave NoStars an example of what she was talking about. LOL
Sure. There are many intricacies that are not inappropriate to discuss. However what those intricacies are and depending on what/who they reference, seems to be a different standard of appropriate.
We the people voted in a democratic elections in which makes up our democratic republic. The electoral college is part of that democratic process. So no, it's not appropriate to discuss that. Not in today's standard where questing something/anything makes you just as bad as Jan.6 insurrectionist .
Perhaps you should provide your definition of deniers. Are they people who questioned the accuracy of the 2020 election considering the adaptations to the voting process due to covid? Or are they the riotors on Jan.6? Are they the same? Are megaphone people who support Trump but do not agree the election was stolen? When we make up words, it's hard to haveva consensus of what they mean.
I think it's appropriate to question early voting ,mail in voting and the amount of time it takes to calculate the votes as to its accuracy. Is that election denying? Or is it the same as questioning the electoral college? Am I a election denier? I have a suggestion, let's make up another word. How about MAGAdenier? We can use it for its accuracy , not to apply anything negative of course.
I counted mail in votes. It takes a long time because it's important to be accurate. If a ballot that came into the building wasn't tabulated, we don't go home until it's accounted for. Somehow you believe this is associated with fraudulent counts? This is a made up problem. I can't figure how to cheat the system but I'm not of a criminal mind. Perhaps you could explain it to me.
Well, there have been many proposals to change the electorial college but none have passed congress. Doesn't say much about horse back and trains.
Until it's changed in congress, it's part of our democratic republic I have half a mind to think that being for or against it varies widely depending on political party. And certain elections.
You don't understand the horses and train references? Why do you think we even have an electoral college? What was it's purpose at the time? We changed legal slavery; we can change the electoral college to make the process more ethical.
The electoral college was useful when people rode on horseback and candidates campaigned from trains. People in Rhode Island have the same access to information as people in California.
None of that is relevant as to why the Electoral College was created.
Seems like kinda a big deal. Proud Boys and Oath Keepers supposedly were part of a big conspiracy with Trump to commit an act of sedition. At the same time, FBI agents were embedded within the organizations, and Jan 6 still happened? Something seems amiss.
"The F.B.I. had as many as eight informants inside the far-right Proud Boys in the months surrounding the storming of the Capitol on Jan. 6, 2021, recent court papers indicate, raising questions about how much federal investigators were able to learn from them about the violent mob attack both before and after it took place.".....
...."The dispute about the informants in the Proud Boys came on the heels of revelations that the F.B.I. also had a well-placed source in the inner circle of Stewart Rhodes, the leader of the Oath Keepers militia, another far-right group that took part in the Capitol attack."
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Why the snicker?
And, do you think the exploding fentanyl crisis has anything to do with the out of control border situation? I know you believe the border doesn't effect many of us, so m guessing not.