I came across this is little story today, it's not breaking news. I suspect that a member of the housekeeping staff knows something about the bomb threat that required the sweep for weapons.
According to police in Secaucus, the bomb threat — which later was determined to be bogus — was called in to Hudson Regional Hospital on July 18. During a search, bomb detection dogs led investigators to an unlocked office closet containing dozens of firearms.
Among the weapons were 11 handguns and 27 rifles or shotguns, according to police. The closet also contained a .45 caliber semi-automatic rifle with a high-capacity magazine that was determined to be an assault rifle, and a 14-round high-capacity handgun magazine.
The arrested the guy the next day.
What the heck do you think this guy was doing? It sounds very ominous that he was keeping those weapons there.
I'm not going to detail the reasons I had for not voting for Ms. Clinton, but rest assured that the "hateful nonsense spread in right wing media about her" had nothing to do with my decision.
I doubt that we would be at the nadir we are in now if Hilary were elected. I never thought if her as dangerous or traitorous, but I knew he was. I voted for her holding my nose. But she wasn't a dumb dumb, nor mentally defective.
She won the popular vote thanks to one state she was never going to lose.
The Electoral College is the rules that the game is played by. If the Yankees beat the Dodgers 10-0 in game 1 of the world series, then lose the next 4 games 2-0 each game, they don't get to claim to be the better team because the total score was 10-8.
Clinton lost to what many said was the most unqualified and despised candidate ever. That makes her to be either a bad candidate herself, or she ran a bad campaign. Or, both.
And, at the time there were plenty of folks who agreed.
I don't need a lecture on the electoral college but thanks for the other links and understand why you said what you said and am willing to concede that her campaign failed and had issues.
I understand that when one loses a close election that it's analyzed and it can be said she made mistakes and ran a bad campaign. It's come with the territory of losing unless you're Trump and it's "he got 74 million votes (more than Obama) and the election was stolen".
I remember saying during the last Obama administration and during the campaign that Democrats really have a problem getting their message across. The economy was booming, the deficit was down but Republicans were able to convince people that Clinton was a criminal, the country was in ruins and we weren't great.
I don't need a lecture on the electoral college but thanks for the other links and understand why you said what you said and am willing to concede that her campaign failed and had issues.
I understand that when one loses a close election that it's analyzed and it can be said she made mistakes and ran a bad campaign. It's come with the territory of losing unless you're Trump and it's "he got 74 million votes (more than Obama) and the election was stolen".
I remember saying during the last Obama administration and during the campaign that Democrats really have a problem getting their message across. The economy was booming, the deficit was down but Republicans were able to convince people that Clinton was a criminal, the country was in ruins and we weren't great.
Roger Ailes made it his mission and Fox News was never more vicious. And this was happening while the IQ scores were slipping secondary to lost attention spans and other reasons.
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2 hours ago, chare said:
And your point, aside from your disdain of the electoral college?
You thought my point was unclear or in someway confusing? Tweety commented that the swing voters weren't the thing that swung the election to Trump in 2016...I pointed out that it was the EC that swung the election to Trump. Trump lost the popular vote both times he tried to convince the American people that he was the best person for the job. Isn't that pretty straightforward?
I understand that when one loses a close election that it's analyzed and it can be said she made mistakes and ran a bad campaign. It's come with the territory of losing unless you're Trump and it's "he got 74 million votes (more than Obama) and the election was stolen".
My statement on the 74 million votes was in response to a totally different conversation. And, I've never argued that Trump didn't make campaign mistakes or that the election was fradulently stolen.
My statement on the 74 million votes was in response to a totally different conversation. And, I've never argued that Trump didn't make campaign mistakes or that the election was fradulently stolen.
I inserted the "more than Obama" from you but otherwise it's a general statement because I don't think you've ever said the election was stolen, so don't take it personally. It's more of a reference to people that can't admit he was a bad candidate and ran a bad campaign. It's easier to believe him to say it was stolen.
"It turns out you can get caught with 20,000 fentanyl pills and walk, thanks to New York’s mandate that judges impose the “least burdensome” pre-trial treatment of accused criminals. Will the state’s leaders ever deign to fix this?
And your point, aside from your disdain of the electoral college?
Isn't the electoral college a process of our democratic republic? Isn't that questioning our democratic republic? Oh right, not when democrats do it, I forgot.
That's a favorite go to point though isn't it? "But he lost the popular vote". No, he won the election fair and square in the same way previous presidents have. Unless of course there is questioning of the 2016 presidential election results? No, it's not election denying when democrats do it.
10 minutes ago, Beerman said:
"It turns out you can get caught with 20,000 fentanyl pills and walk, thanks to New York’s mandate that judges impose the “least burdensome” pre-trial treatment of accused criminals. Will the state’s leaders ever deign to fix this?
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40 minutes ago, Weetywill said:
Isn't the electoral college a process of our democratic republic? Isn't that questioning our democratic republic? Oh right, not when democrats do it, I forgot.
That's a favorite go to point though isn't it? "But he lost the popular vote". No, he won the election fair and square in the same way previous presidents have. Unless of course there is questioning of the 2016 presidential election results? No, it's not election denying when democrats do it.
I think dying of a fantasy OD would be very violent, so that person is a violent offender who was let out without bail?
Which of the members here suggested that Trump didn't win the election "fair and square"? Is it inappropriate to discuss the intricacies of our national election processes that would elevate such a crass, corrupt and incompetent man of low ethical and moral standards to the highest office in our land... when We the People said no? Conflating that appropriate discussion with the dangerous election denials of the MAGAphiles is a real stretch of logic.
Maybe we should have a thread about bail so that we can do a deep dive on the subject... what do you think?
The reforms, shared with The Associated Press exclusively ahead of Tuesday's announcement, do not bar judges from imposing cash bail, especially if defendants are deemed a flight risk or a danger to the public. However, all Detroit judges and magistrates must say on the record how imposing bail would protect the community or prevent a failure to appear. Judges must also make an on-the-record determination as to how much a defendant can afford to pay.
The parties also agreed that any defendant who is at 200% of the federal poverty level or less is to be assumed unable to post cash bond. According to the 2022 federal guidelines, 200% of the poverty level is annual earnings of roughly $27,000 for an individual and $55,000 for a family of four.
“This should largely eliminate the practice of imposing what may seem to some like small amounts of cash bail, which effectively serve as a jail sentence for somebody who hasn’t yet been convicted of a crime,” Mayor said.
In many jurisdictions around the country, defendants who pose greater risks of committing violent crimes are let out on bail while poor, low-risk defendants who cannot pay bail stay locked up for long periods, said the Vera Institute report, “Incarceration’s Front Door: The Misuse of Jails in America.”
The Vera report also noted that African-American men, such as Edward, are disproportionately held pretrial as a result of an inability to post monetary bail.
Are there members who don't agree that we need bail reform?
"It turns out you can get caught with 20,000 fentanyl pills and walk, thanks to New York’s mandate that judges impose the “least burdensome” pre-trial treatment of accused criminals. Will the state’s leaders ever deign to fix this?
The headline " Fentanyl mega-bust travesty reveals how hollow left’s line on public safety really is..." made me snicker. Sorry not sorry.
But I was curious about the no bail for non-violent felony charges they instituted in 2020. It was controversial and I don't think it was made with a disregard for public safety. But something as serious as 20,000 fentanyl pills seems to warrant a situation different than say marijuana possession.
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I doubt that we would be at the nadir we are in now if Hilary were elected. I never thought if her as dangerous or traitorous, but I knew he was. I voted for her holding my nose. But she wasn't a dumb dumb, nor mentally defective.