I came across this is little story today, it's not breaking news. I suspect that a member of the housekeeping staff knows something about the bomb threat that required the sweep for weapons.
According to police in Secaucus, the bomb threat — which later was determined to be bogus — was called in to Hudson Regional Hospital on July 18. During a search, bomb detection dogs led investigators to an unlocked office closet containing dozens of firearms.
Among the weapons were 11 handguns and 27 rifles or shotguns, according to police. The closet also contained a .45 caliber semi-automatic rifle with a high-capacity magazine that was determined to be an assault rifle, and a 14-round high-capacity handgun magazine.
The arrested the guy the next day.
What the heck do you think this guy was doing? It sounds very ominous that he was keeping those weapons there.
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20 hours ago, Beerman said:
Your bias is blinding you. I'm far from the most disagreeable members here.
Pish-tosh! I didn't say you were the most disagreeable member on here. I was making a joke because you so often read a post and then make assumptions, seemingly purposely misinterpreting was said. SEEMINGLY. Like, to "I hate 7th grade", you might respond, "So you think junior high school isn't necessary?
Anyway, I don't much care. It's just an observation because my eyes are open. So, I am BLIND BY MY BIAS? You are the same. Just another human being.
Which of the members here suggested that Trump didn't win the election "fair and square"? Is it inappropriate to discuss the intricacies of our national election processes that would elevate such a crass, corrupt and incompetent man of low ethical and moral standards to the highest office in our land... when We the People said no? Conflating that appropriate discussion with the dangerous election denials of the MAGAphiles is a real stretch of logic.
Maybe we should have a thread about bail so that we can do a deep dive on the subject... what do you think?
Sure. There are many intricacies that are not inappropriate to discuss. However what those intricacies are and depending on what/who they reference, seems to be a different standard of appropriate.
We the people voted in a democratic elections in which makes up our democratic republic. The electoral college is part of that democratic process. So no, it's not appropriate to discuss that. Not in today's standard where questing something/anything makes you just as bad as Jan.6 insurrectionist .
Perhaps you should provide your definition of deniers. Are they people who questioned the accuracy of the 2020 election considering the adaptations to the voting process due to covid? Or are they the riotors on Jan.6? Are they the same? Are megaphone people who support Trump but do not agree the election was stolen? When we make up words, it's hard to haveva consensus of what they mean.
I think it's appropriate to question early voting ,mail in voting and the amount of time it takes to calculate the votes as to its accuracy. Is that election denying? Or is it the same as questioning the electoral college? Am I a election denier? I have a suggestion, let's make up another word. How about MAGAdenier? We can use it for its accuracy , not to apply anything negative of course.
Pish-tosh! I didn't say you were the most disagreeable member on here. I was making a joke because you so often read a post and then make assumptions, seemingly purposely misinterpreting was said. SEEMINGLY. Like, to "I hate 7th grade", you might respond, "So you think junior high school isn't necessary?
Anyway, I don't much care. It's just an observation because my eyes are open. So, I am BLIND BY MY BIAS? You are the same. Just another human being.
From what I have read, and I know I'm the "newbie " , he has not misinterpreted what was said , but more that he has a different opinion than some people on here.
I might be bias but I do not get the impression that Beerman is the most bias member on this thread.
I was making a joke because you so often read a post and then make assumptions, seemingly purposely misinterpreting was said. SEEMINGLY. Like, to "I hate 7th grade", you might respond, "So you think junior high school isn't necessary?
That doesn't sound like me. Perhaps you can provide a real example rather than a make-believe one?
I think it's appropriate to question early voting ,mail in voting and the amount of time it takes to calculate the votes as to its accuracy. Is that election denying?
We've had mail in voting and early voting in some states for many years. But if there were concerns about its accuracy during covid it certainly isn't inappropriate to have concerns. If however, after a review of its accuracy and fairness and no fraud was found, and yet you continue to say the election was fraudulent that's the definition of an election denier.
Pish-tosh! I didn't say you were the most disagreeable member on here. I was making a joke because you so often read a post and then make assumptions, seemingly purposely misinterpreting was said. SEEMINGLY. Like, to "I hate 7th grade", you might respond, "So you think junior high school isn't necessary?
Anyway, I don't much care. It's just an observation because my eyes are open. So, I am BLIND BY MY BIAS? You are the same. Just another human being.
I did take it as a joke. But I can see why he'd be bothered by you singling him out like that. We are all pretty much disagreeable here and the Terms of Service state that we are to stick to the topics rather than make direct attacks (jokes) against another member.
We've had mail in voting and early voting in some states for many years. But if there were concerns about its accuracy during covid it certainly isn't inappropriate to have concerns. If however, after a review of its accuracy and fairness and no fraud was found, and yet you continue to say the election was fraudulent that's the definition of an election denier.
No no. I think you made a mistake. I never said that the election was stolen because I do not believe it was. Did I say something that sounded like I said the election was stolen? If I did, I apologize. I do think covid was exploited and politicized in 2022 for benefit of the election.
I think there was irregularities and fraud. Which is true for any election. Do I think there was enough to tip this election? Maybe, the tally was so close so I am more likely believe that it could have been. Can I prove it? No. You are correct, a review was determined that there was no significant irregularities or fraud. So I'll go by that. Eventhough with many types of law, the absence of proof or not enough of it, doesn't always determine if a crime happened or not. However I do not think the 2020 election was stolen so I do not agree that I fit the definition of an election denier. At least by some definitions.
To be clear, I do not think the 2020 election was stolen.
Isn't the electoral college a process of our democratic republic? Isn't that questioning our democratic republic? Oh right, not when democrats do it, I forgot.
That's a favorite go to point though isn't it? "But he lost the popular vote". No, he won the election fair and square in the same way previous presidents have. Unless of course there is questioning of the 2016 presidential election results? No, it's not election denying when democrats do it.
I think dying of a fantasy OD would be very violent, so that person is a violent offender who was let out without bail?
The electoral college was useful when people rode on horseback and candidates campaigned from trains. People in Rhode Island have the same access to information as people in California. One man, one vote equals a quicker election in the electronic age and a more fair platform.
The electoral college was useful when people rode on horseback and candidates campaigned from trains. People in Rhode Island have the same access to information as people in California. One man, one vote equals a quicker election in the electronic age and a more fair platform.
Well, there have been many proposals to change the electorial college but none have passed congress. Doesn't say much about horse back and trains.
Until it's changed in congress, it's part of our democratic republic I have half a mind to think that being for or against it varies widely depending on political party. And certain elections.
No no. I think you made a mistake. I never said that the election was stolen because I do not believe it was. Did I say something that sounded like I said the election was stolen? If I did, I apologize. I do think covid was exploited and politicized in 2022 for benefit of the election.
I think there was irregularities and fraud. Which is true for any election. Do I think there was enough to tip this election? Maybe, the tally was so close so I am more likely believe that it could have been. Can I prove it? No. You are correct, a review was determined that there was no significant irregularities or fraud. So I'll go by that. Eventhough with many types of law, the absence of proof or not enough of it, doesn't always determine if a crime happened or not. However I do not think the 2020 election was stolen so I do not agree that I fit the definition of an election denier. At least by some definitions.
To be clear, I do not think the 2020 election was stolen.
I was merely addressing your question "I think it's appropriate to question early voting ,mail in voting and the amount of time it takes to calculate the votes as to its accuracy. Is that election denying? " and my answer was no.
You say "Do I think there was enough to tip this election? Maybe, the tally was so close so I am more likely believe that it could have been. Can I prove it? No." You believe something without proof.
The Gore-Bush election was very close, as was the Clinton-Trump election. But a close election in which Trump lost is suddenly suspect? Ultimately we have to trust the process and keep the checks and balances in place, and learn from cracks in the system.
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Pish-tosh! I didn't say you were the most disagreeable member on here. I was making a joke because you so often read a post and then make assumptions, seemingly purposely misinterpreting was said. SEEMINGLY. Like, to "I hate 7th grade", you might respond, "So you think junior high school isn't necessary?
Anyway, I don't much care. It's just an observation because my eyes are open. So, I am BLIND BY MY BIAS? You are the same. Just another human being.