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I came across this is little story today, it's not breaking news. I suspect that a member of the housekeeping staff knows something about the bomb threat that required the sweep for weapons.
https://apnews.com/article/new-jersey-newark-bomb-threats-d0a59b80d460f9354f6bfe86f65475c6
QuoteAccording to police in Secaucus, the bomb threat — which later was determined to be bogus — was called in to Hudson Regional Hospital on July 18. During a search, bomb detection dogs led investigators to an unlocked office closet containing dozens of firearms.
Among the weapons were 11 handguns and 27 rifles or shotguns, according to police. The closet also contained a .45 caliber semi-automatic rifle with a high-capacity magazine that was determined to be an assault rifle, and a 14-round high-capacity handgun magazine.
The arrested the guy the next day.
What the heck do you think this guy was doing? It sounds very ominous that he was keeping those weapons there.
1 hour ago, Tweety said:Twitter already seemed to be a mess but he certainly has his work cut out for him.
https://www.them.us/story/elon-musk-Twitter-right-wing-death-spiral
What's interesting is "Them" the source above has a Twitter when I clicked it I couldn't get access without creating an account. But Twitter.com lets me view. Joe Biden is still posting there and posted about Veteran's Day. It does seem to be that Twitter is allowing a lot of anti-Twitter talk.
Time will tell. He may have the last laugh.
I still have my account deactivated though.
I haven't deactivated my account, but I rarely open the app... and I don't click on ads.
Musk is going to have to find a way to make money from an app that has always been free and he's doing that by making the site more likely to be a right-wing haven for misinformation and conspiracy theory. What would Q do? LOL
On 11/10/2022 at 4:59 AM, toomuchbaloney said:You are new here. I specifically have been challenged to make certain that I am not lumping all conservatives into a single group. Some conservatives have been very sensitive about feeling like they might be associated with "conservative" groups that they don't associate or agree with. In response, Heron coined the term and I use it for the purpose of quickly and accurately identifying the specific group of republican voters. Clearly, MAGAphiles are not the largest voting block for the GOP anymore.
You read a negative connotation into it. TBH, I perceive the MAGA movement to be negative and dangerous for our democracy... so "MAGA" represents the negative prefix in this new term. Other conservatives have read a negative connotation into it because of the suffix. I think that's because conservative media outlets and internet sites have so many conservatives worried about pedophiles... so that's the first and perhaps only application of that suffix that occurs to them. I'm drinking tea out of a set of cups with words on them... my cup says bibliophile... is that derogatory?
I try to use words according to their definitions. You've maybe noticed that I will correct or question people on the meaning of the words they use in our written discussions. That's because words have meanings. If we want to communicate clearly in written form then we must use unambiguous language.
Do you disagree that Trump is generally surrounded by sycophants? Do you think that sycophants is an accurate descriptor.
Do you disagree that the suffix -phile connotes a fondness?
I'm not certain why anyone should stop using language correctly because some conservatives feel uncomfortable about the individual words.
I feel like just not reading your comments sometimes when I'm confronted with made up right wing nonsense in every paragraph... things about white racism or some balance of election lies or denial between the political parties, or that you can find features of fascism in any form of government. As I've pointed out before, all of that is incorrect...a product of right wing programming and planned content designed to give you (the conservative consumer) a very twisted and inaccurate view of the world.
I want to speak my mind in these threads. I can't prevent a conservative from believing lies and propaganda that they have been conditioned to believe. We can discuss the specifics and facts and talk about our thoughts about those lies and the people who spread them with malice. We can share information if folks are able or willing to read it watch the content for background or supporting/ clarifying evidence or reporting.
You get to decide if you want to be offended by correctly used words. Honestly, I might feel defensive too if the political leader of the party I associated with looked and behaved as a crime boss with sycophants. I would want to distance myself from that... not by complaining about the words used to describe them but by rejecting their lies and propaganda.
You may consider my views if you prefer...or you can take offense and talk around me rather than talk to or with me. That won't cause me to stop responding to your posts, however. You decide.
Seems like a really long explanation for a word that you claim is functional and not intended to be offensive.
I'm not offended by anything you said. It's interesting that you assume I'm a conservative. Do you often make assumptions about people?
You can do whatever you wish and if making repetative post referring to conservatives in a derogatory but not intending to be offensive way, have at it. The truth is I think that you enjoy every opportunity to express your factual information on how propaganda has caused feeble right minds to believe in the great lie. Or to express how Trump and everything conservative is going to undermind our democratic republic. Then accuse others of conspiracy theories.
On 11/10/2022 at 6:00 AM, toomuchbaloney said:Is it a coincidence that conservatives in a discussion forum are offended by words and suggest that I should use different words while conservatives in communities are offended by the words in books and want those books removed? I don't think it's an innocent coincidence. Grievance seems to be a central theme in conservative social commentary, that's not an accident. IMV
I'm not sure. I never said I was offended nor did I say I was a conservative. I thought there was more substance to your contributions other than satisfying some sort of obsessive hatred for your fellow citizens who vote differently from you. I thought you wanted to help change the political division by stating facts and data as you say. I only suggested that leaving out the negative inflammatory words would get your contributions across better and be more effective than constant hyperinflated rhetoric.
I'm not sure where the books came into the discussion but I can also go off topic so I won't make a deal out of it. You seem to take allot of issues with conservatives,perhaps this is just another one. If there is books with descriptive sexual/violent acts available to children, that's not offensive, it is inappropriate. You think it's exceptable to allow children to read about very mature sexual content?
On 11/10/2022 at 6:00 AM, toomuchbaloney said:Is it a coincidence that conservatives in a discussion forum are offended by words and suggest that I should use different words while conservatives in communities are offended by the words in books and want those books removed? I don't think it's an innocent coincidence. Grievance seems to be a central theme in conservative social commentary, that's not an accident. IMV
It's probably because they want to overturn our democratic republic.
5 minutes ago, Weetywill said:I'm not sure. I never said I was offended nor did I say I was a conservative. I thought there was more substance to your contributions other than satisfying some sort of obsessive hatred for your fellow citizens who vote differently from you. I thought you wanted to help change the political division by stating facts and data as you say. I only suggested that leaving out the negative inflammatory words would get your contributions across better and be more effective than constant hyperinflated rhetoric.
I'm not sure where the books came into the discussion but I can also go off topic so I won't make a deal out of it. You seem to take allot of issues with conservatives,perhaps this is just another one. If there is books with descriptive sexual/violent acts available to children, that's not offensive, it is inappropriate. You think it's exceptable to allow children to read about very mature sexual content?
Gaslighting. You are putting words in his mouth. TMB and others have never had an argument with conservatism; just with the MAGAphiles who are bastardizing the term conservative.
18 minutes ago, subee said:Gaslighting. You are putting words in his mouth. TMB and others have never had an argument with conservatism; just with the MAGAphiles who are bastardizing the term conservative.
Gaslighting? If you search conservative in the search bar you will see with your own eyes his own words what he thinks about conservatism. Or at the very least there isn't a reasonable attempt to seperate the conservatives from the magaphiles or whatever. That's not just referring to magazines.
It doesn't matter. Anyone is free to say as they wish, hate who they want. I thought that there was more reasoning to the post by members. He being the primary poster as far as I can tell. So I suggested a way to achieve that. To reach more people. I didn't think that it was mindless rants. And I also appreciate most of the post. That's it. It was a suggestion, nothing more. I do not claim to be the arbitrator of allnurses or the fact checker. I also wasn't trying to offend anyone. I see my contribution was not appreciated. Okay. Got it!
12 hours ago, Weetywill said:Seems like a really long explanation for a word that you claim is functional and not intended to be offensive.
I'm not offended by anything you said. It's interesting that you assume I'm a conservative. Do you often make assumptions about people?
You can do whatever you wish and if making repetative post referring to conservatives in a derogatory but not intending to be offensive way, have at it. The truth is I think that you enjoy every opportunity to express your factual information on how propaganda has caused feeble right minds to believe in the great lie. Or to express how Trump and everything conservative is going to undermind our democratic republic. Then accuse others of conspiracy theories.
Thanks for reading my long explanation. It's too bad that you feel offended by the term MAGAphile if you don't identify with the MAGAphile crowd or ideology.
Yes, I enjoy reading and sharing factual information. It's good that you recognize that there are some indoctrinated and even radicalized folk who adore Trump and want to elevate him again.
When you start putting words in my mouth or try to make a serious point with hyperbole I'm going to check you. I haven't made any such claims about "everything conservative"... that's on you. And that type of nonsense provoked by my words about Trump and his dangerous MAGAphiles makes it likely that you are a conservative feeling uncomfortable by association. Liberals and independents don't feel defensive about words like MAGAphiles or propaganda which are accurate descriptors for the people and the lies that make up Trumps political foundation.
It's a public service to let our neighbors know when they've been conned. Interestingly, conned people will often respond appropriately when they are made aware of the con. Conversely, indoctrinated people will often respond with anger or denial when they are made aware of their indoctrination. Have you seen/heard any people who call themselves Trump supporting Republicans who angrily insist that Trump was cheated on 2020 and that Biden isn't the legitimate president? That's indoctrination. Those people believe conspiracy theories about all manner of things.
Are you denying that conspiracy theories are a problem among MAGAphiles?
13 hours ago, Weetywill said:Seems like a really long explanation for a word that you claim is functional and not intended to be offensive.
I'm not offended by anything you said. It's interesting that you assume I'm a conservative. Do you often make assumptions about people?
You can do whatever you wish and if making repetative post referring to conservatives in a derogatory but not intending to be offensive way, have at it. The truth is I think that you enjoy every opportunity to express your factual information on how propaganda has caused feeble right minds to believe in the great lie. Or to express how Trump and everything conservative is going to undermind our democratic republic. Then accuse others of conspiracy theories.
Interesting… you got that out of TMB’s post. I thought it was extremely nice.?
10 hours ago, Weetywill said:I'm not sure. I never said I was offended nor did I say I was a conservative. I thought there was more substance to your contributions other than satisfying some sort of obsessive hatred for your fellow citizens who vote differently from you. I thought you wanted to help change the political division by stating facts and data as you say. I only suggested that leaving out the negative inflammatory words would get your contributions across better and be more effective than constant hyperinflated rhetoric.
I'm not sure where the books came into the discussion but I can also go off topic so I won't make a deal out of it. You seem to take allot of issues with conservatives,perhaps this is just another one. If there is books with descriptive sexual/violent acts available to children, that's not offensive, it is inappropriate. You think it's exceptable to allow children to read about very mature sexual content?
Objection! Argumentative
10 hours ago, Weetywill said:I'm not sure. I never said I was offended nor did I say I was a conservative. I thought there was more substance to your contributions other than satisfying some sort of obsessive hatred for your fellow citizens who vote differently from you. I thought you wanted to help change the political division by stating facts and data as you say. I only suggested that leaving out the negative inflammatory words would get your contributions across better and be more effective than constant hyperinflated rhetoric.
I'm not sure where the books came into the discussion but I can also go off topic so I won't make a deal out of it. You seem to take allot of issues with conservatives,perhaps this is just another one. If there is books with descriptive sexual/violent acts available to children, that's not offensive, it is inappropriate. You think it's exceptable to allow children to read about very mature sexual content?
You didn't say you were a conservative, you don't like my words about right wing extremism in the GOP or the foolish people believing lies from GOP politicians and candidates.
You think I "hate" fellow citizens because they vote differently than me...I don't hate them and I explained my words... maybe you've been conditioned to believe that liberals "hate" conservatives by your media choices. Your use of the word "hate", as pointed at me is a big clue, you should look this up but let me point out that propagandists use the notion of "hate" in their US v Them divisive tactics. Afterall, if your political opponents "hate" you then you are justified in "hating" them back... maybe even violence or civil war. If your opponents "hate" you that opens the door to all manner of otherwise unacceptable behavior...one might even consider keeping those "haters" out of public office using lies and extraconstitutional tools. Are you interested enough to Google which cable media outlet uses the word "hate" more often than any other media outlet?
Your last question requires some clarification. I'm going to start an entire thread on the topic of Mediaography in schools so that you can take all of the time and words you need to make your point as clearly as you can using facts, details and excerpts from the books that you find inappropriate for school libraries.
9 hours ago, Weetywill said:Gaslighting? If you search conservative in the search bar you will see with your own eyes his own words what he thinks about conservatism. Or at the very least there isn't a reasonable attempt to seperate the conservatives from the magaphiles or whatever. That's not just referring to magazines.
It doesn't matter. Anyone is free to say as they wish, hate who they want. I thought that there was more reasoning to the post by members. He being the primary poster as far as I can tell. So I suggested a way to achieve that. To reach more people. I didn't think that it was mindless rants. And I also appreciate most of the post. That's it. It was a suggestion, nothing more. I do not claim to be the arbitrator of allnurses or the fact checker. I also wasn't trying to offend anyone. I see my contribution was not appreciated. Okay. Got it!
He’s the creator of this thread WW. If you see him posting more so than usual members it’s because it’s his forum. But keep talking
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Twitter already seemed to be a mess but he certainly has his work cut out for him.
https://www.them.us/story/elon-musk-Twitter-right-wing-death-spiral
What's interesting is "Them" the source above has a Twitter when I clicked it I couldn't get access without creating an account. But Twitter.com lets me view. Joe Biden is still posting there and posted about Veteran's Day. It does seem to be that Twitter is allowing a lot of anti-Twitter talk.
Time will tell. He may have the last laugh.
I still have my account deactivated though.