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I came across this is little story today, it's not breaking news.  I suspect that a member of the housekeeping staff knows something about the bomb threat that required the sweep for weapons.

https://apnews.com/article/new-jersey-newark-bomb-threats-d0a59b80d460f9354f6bfe86f65475c6

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According to police in Secaucus, the bomb threat — which later was determined to be bogus — was called in to Hudson Regional Hospital on July 18. During a search, bomb detection dogs led investigators to an unlocked office closet containing dozens of firearms.

Among the weapons were 11 handguns and 27 rifles or shotguns, according to police. The closet also contained a .45 caliber semi-automatic rifle with a high-capacity magazine that was determined to be an assault rifle, and a 14-round high-capacity handgun magazine.

The arrested the guy the next day. 

What the heck do you think this guy was doing? It sounds very ominous that he was keeping those weapons there. 

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1 hour ago, heron said:

If most if not all conservatives agree with trump, why is it “uncivil” to conflate the two?

Because as we have discussed ad nauseam it's "some, not all conservatives". A good deal of conservatives are not Trump supporters.  They might support conservatives ideas like less government and taxes, a strong border, and all those talking points but they aren't "Magaphiles".  

What's wrong with admitting using derogatory terms for Trump supporters, they deserve all the vitriol thrown their way.  I've certainly been called derogatory terms as a (gay) liberal with a "f-bomb your feelings" thrown in.

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2 hours ago, Tweety said:

Because as we have discussed ad nauseam it's "some, not all conservatives". A good deal of conservatives are not Trump supporters.  They might support conservatives ideas like less government and taxes, a strong border, and all those talking points but they aren't "Magaphiles".  

What's wrong with admitting using derogatory terms for Trump supporters, they deserve all the vitriol thrown their way.  I've certainly been called derogatory terms as a (gay) liberal with a "f-bomb your feelings" thrown in.

I don't believe that MAGAphile is a derogatory term.  

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9 hours ago, Tweety said:

Because as we have discussed ad nauseam it's "some, not all conservatives". A good deal of conservatives are not Trump supporters.  They might support conservatives ideas like less government and taxes, a strong border, and all those talking points but they aren't "Magaphiles".  

What's wrong with admitting using derogatory terms for Trump supporters, they deserve all the vitriol thrown their way.  I've certainly been called derogatory terms as a (gay) liberal with a "f-bomb your feelings" thrown in.

Nothing wrong at all … just interested to see how Beerman is conflating somebutnotallconservatives with maga believers. 

So … that must mean that somebutnotallconservatives believe that trump is the messiah and is secretly running the country while Biden and Hillary languish in a secret prison. I wonder what they’ll do with all the adrenochrome they’ll be able to confiscate.

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7 hours ago, toomuchbaloney said:

I don't believe that MAGAphile is a derogatory term.  

Some, not all, use it as such is what I was saying.  I have no comment really on the word myself other than I see nothing wrong with being derogatory towards Trump supporters.  They deserve it.

Here's one derogatory definition.

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A MAGAphile is is true believer in the Donald Trump cult named after his 2016 campaign slogan, Make America Great Again, which basically means undoing and blocking anything Obama did or the liberals want. Like Trump himself, they seek to be shameless paragons of deplorableness and incorrigibility. This is all okay because the liberals shamelessly murder their own babies, but someday soon liberals will be stopped from this vile form of family planning. And we'll also all be free to say Merry Christmas and Happy Thanksgivingwithout fear of persecution.

 

 

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1 hour ago, Tweety said:

Some, not all, use it as such is what I was saying.  I have no comment really on the word myself other than I see nothing wrong with being derogatory towards Trump supporters.  They deserve it.

Here's one derogatory definition.

 

As I said before, associating someone with Trump’s MAGA movement is derogatory... that's why so many conservatives are quick to point out that not all conservatives are supportive of that motto or agenda.  That's the only derogatory thing about the term MAGAphile... the MAGA part... but that's their motto, we didn't assign that to them. 

1 hour ago, Tweety said:

Some, not all, use it as such is what I was saying.  I have no comment really on the word myself other than I see nothing wrong with being derogatory towards Trump supporters.  They deserve it.

Here's one derogatory definition.

 

Well then, what is a Trump supporter who "deserves it"?

I would say that only a very tiny percentage of those 70 million who voted for him use those terms you described.

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10 minutes ago, Beerman said:

Well then, what is a Trump supporter who "deserves it"?

I would say that only a very tiny percentage of those 70 million who voted for him use those terms you described.

All of them.  If they believe he's the legitimate President and Democracy failed and conspired to rig the election and they want him to run for President in 2024 and even if they don't use the derogatory terms, they are still worthy of my disdain or at least mockery.  

As you know, I don't go low and name call or engage in offensive insults. 

As you know I've long supported anyone that supports conservative ideas, even those put forth by him.  I don't have that kind of feelings for conservatives and republicans and understand that it's "some, not all".  

Fair or not, I'm pleased that he's getting some of the brunt of the lack of a red wave and people might be waking up to the idea that he's toxic.

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56 minutes ago, toomuchbaloney said:

As I said before, associating someone with Trump’s MAGA movement is derogatory... that's why so many conservatives are quick to point out that not all conservatives are supportive of that motto or agenda.  That's the only derogatory thing about the term MAGAphile... the MAGA part... but that's their motto, we didn't assign that to them. 

Trump was elected by "conservatives".  A few of them left the fold.  The rest remained MAGAphiles.  I use it as a derogatory term.  It still amazes me that people whi didn't become MAGAphiles even voted for the man and didn't sense his danger or his amoral character.

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1 hour ago, subee said:

Trump was elected by "conservatives".  A few of them left the fold.  The rest remained MAGAphiles.  I use it as a derogatory term.  It still amazes me that people whi didn't become MAGAphiles even voted for the man and didn't sense his danger or his amoral character.

To be fair even I didn't sense how bad it was to become.  I think the 70 million people that voted for him were voting against Mrs. Clinton.  There was a fringe that chanted "lock her up!" that I think are the MAGAphiles of today but for the most part people didn't like Clinton and her association with Obama's policies, and were mistrustful of her character.   My aunt voted for Trump solely on the fact she thought he was against abortion.  Others liked him because he wasn't establishment and "I like him, he speaks his mind and isn't politically correct" etc.

Regardless in 2022, there is no good reason whatsoever to support such a person as Trump.  

Might be far-fetched, but certainly would make things interesting.

"Newsom won reelection easily and now has the luxury of turning his ambitious eyes completely toward the White House. The question then becomes, will his party turn its eyes toward him as the person who might save it from the Biden-Harris dilemma it is surely about to face?

If the answer is “yes,” the “solution” is really not complicated at all. In one scenario, Biden could ask Harris to resign and replace her with Newsom, who then becomes the heir apparent for 2024. Or Biden could replace Harris with Newsom and then resign himself, making Newsom the president before 2024 and arming him with the full force of the Oval Office."

https://thehill.com/opinion/white-house/3728474-heres-a-game-plan-biden-replaces-harris-with-newsom-and-then-resigns/

 

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That's an unlikely scenario.  But I would love to see a Newsome-DeSantis race. Two strong and popular governors.  No Biden-Harris or Trump baggage.  They've been such adversaries the mud slinging would be thick.  

 

2 minutes ago, Tweety said:

That's an unlikely scenario.  But I would love to see a Newsome-DeSantis race0. Two strong and popular governors.  No Biden-Harris or Trump baggage.  They've been such adversaries the mud slinging would be thick.  

 

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