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I came across this is little story today, it's not breaking news.  I suspect that a member of the housekeeping staff knows something about the bomb threat that required the sweep for weapons.

https://apnews.com/article/new-jersey-newark-bomb-threats-d0a59b80d460f9354f6bfe86f65475c6

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According to police in Secaucus, the bomb threat — which later was determined to be bogus — was called in to Hudson Regional Hospital on July 18. During a search, bomb detection dogs led investigators to an unlocked office closet containing dozens of firearms.

Among the weapons were 11 handguns and 27 rifles or shotguns, according to police. The closet also contained a .45 caliber semi-automatic rifle with a high-capacity magazine that was determined to be an assault rifle, and a 14-round high-capacity handgun magazine.

The arrested the guy the next day. 

What the heck do you think this guy was doing? It sounds very ominous that he was keeping those weapons there. 

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6 minutes ago, subee said:

 

No, I can't.  I tried to PM it to you, sometimes that works.  If you just highlight it and put it in your browser, the full article will come up.

I can't highlight portions of a comment to copy them... it's everything or nothing.  The site is glitchy in that way. 

1 hour ago, subee said:

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Who is Anderson Lee Aldrich, the suspected Colorado Springs Club Q shooter? (denverpost.com)

https://www.denverpost.com/2022/11/20/anderson-lee-aldrich-colorado-springs-shooter-club-q/

This requires a registration to read articles, but I was able to open it in an incognito window.

29 minutes ago, toomuchbaloney said:

I figured she was just frustrated with the emotional trolling rather than discussion...

Than maybe she shoukd act like a grown up and ignore it.

 

1 hour ago, subee said:

Can't you read?

Who is Anderson Lee Aldrich, the suspected Colorado Springs Club Q shooter? (denverpost.com)

Do you know how to copy and paste a link?

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19 minutes ago, Beerman said:

Do you know how to copy and paste a link?

Years ago it was determined that for some reason her phone/device she uses does not do this.  She gotten a lot of advice on how to do this and there is some glitch that she can't figure out.

I believe this was the problem of another poster as well that disappeared in a rage of MAGA-disgust one day never to be seen again.  LOL

 I had forgotten this, don't understand it because even I can cut and past from my droid, but apparently you didn't know this either.

 

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31 minutes ago, Beerman said:

Than maybe she shoukd act like a grown up and ignore it.

 

Do you know how to copy and paste a link?

 Is your retort an example of acting like a grown up and ignoring it? ...LOL

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16 minutes ago, Tweety said:

Years ago it was determined that for some reason her phone/device she uses does not do this.  She gotten a lot of advice on how to do this and there is some glitch that she can't figure out.

I believe this was the problem of another poster as well that disappeared in a rage of MAGA-disgust one day never to be seen again.  LOL

 I had forgotten this, don't understand it because even I can cut and past from my droid, but apparently you didn't know this either.

 

Sorry Tweety:  I dread the thought of having to go out an get a new computer and I own my phone and don't want to spend money on a new devices now!  Amazingly, I sent an activatable link recently and have no idea why it worked:)

2 hours ago, toomuchbaloney said:

noting facts and details about the killer's life doesn't mean that we should jump to conclusions. 

Wow....smh....LOL

1 hour ago, Tweety said:

I think "failed to enforce the red flag law" might be a stretch since the law was passed in 2019 as apparently they might have begrudgingly used it but only in cases where a crime is being committed.  But this article says the Sheriff there never used it.

https://coloradosun.com/2022/11/24/el-paso-county-sheriff-club-q-red-flag-law/

Despite conservatives there thinking it's a ruse to go after guns, even two of the conservative posters here have indicated the Red Flag Law should have been used in this case and the shooting never should have happened.

That is being investigated, so saying it wasn't enforced can't be said at this time.  Obviously it wasn't used and the shooter evaded it.

https://www.epcsheriffsoffice.com/red-flag-bill

https://www.CPR.org/2022/11/22/gun-violence-expert-says-red-flag-law-colorado-law-enforcement/

At the end of the day, as you've said, "what's to stop a criminal from getting a gun".  Nothing.  It's too late, there are too many guns.  The best we can hope for is that ourselves and our loved ones out living our lives aren't caught up in a mass shooting.  Thoughts and prayers.

Mostly agree.  I'd add that after his case dismissed, it was sealed.  Knowing more would help us understand if the Red Flag law could have been used.  But, sounds like the gun was illegal.  If that's true, wouldn't have mattered.

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6 minutes ago, Beerman said:

Wow....smh....LOL

 We don't want any double standards, so we?

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Thanksgiving has been marked by mass shootings this year. At some point we should really be able to discuss the details of this violence so that definitive actin can be taken to reduce the deaths and terror.  

Why Does the U.S. Have So Many Mass Shootings? Research Is Clear: Guns. https://nyti.ms/2hODjP5

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America’s gun homicide rate was 33 per million people in 2009, far exceeding the average among developed countries. In Canada and Britain, it was 5 per million and 0.7 per million, respectively, which also corresponds with differences in gun ownership.

Americans sometimes see this as an expression of deeper problems with crime, a notion ingrained, in part, by a series of films portraying urban gang violence in the early 1990s. But the United States is not actually more prone to crime than other developed countries, according to a landmark 1999 study by Franklin E. Zimring and Gordon Hawkins of the University of California, Berkeley.

Rather, they found, in data that has since been repeatedly confirmed, that American crime is simply more lethal. A New Yorker is just as likely to be robbed as a Londoner, for instance, but the New Yorker is 54 times more likely to be killed in the process.

They concluded that the discrepancy, like so many other anomalies of American violence, came down to guns.

More gun ownership corresponds with more gun murders across virtually every axis: among developed countries, among American states, among American towns and cities and when controlling for crime rates. And gun control legislation tends to reduce gun murders, according to a recent analysis of 130 studies from 10 countries.

This suggests that the guns themselves cause the violence.

The NRA, supported by one political party more than the other has gotten in the way of meaningful legislation and even manages to overtly interfere in attempts to reduce gun violence...like with the Dickey Amendment.  That language essentially chilled CDC education and data compilation on gun violence for years.  I think that was the intent. 

Outside of it being good for business why might the NRA encourage more guns in the USA even though their presence is directly related to rising gun deaths? Given that the NRA was discovered to be using Russian money to influence politicians and was working directly with a Russian spy is it possible that the NRA doesn't really care about American democracy or the general welfare of We the People?

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5993413/

https://www.npr.org/2018/04/05/599773911/how-the-nra-worked-to-stifle-gun-violence-research

https://www.npr.org/2019/09/27/765037952/senate-report-reveals-nra-was-foreign-asset-to-russia-ahead-of-2016

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Inflation?  Not much we can do about it so the right will continue to blame Biden, as if one guy could cause world inflation.  Guns, however, we can do something about, but they don't have the interest or the cahones to even get started on national conversation.  They've even gone further in the sense that the right is attempting to actually censor the conversation by prohibiting the CDC to even collect statistics.  Just more prohibition on progress - and don't confuse me someone who is armored with a progressive agenda.  Just a middle of the road Democrat here who only asks for sensible government policy and we giving  the gun manufacturers unconscionable powers here.

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6 hours ago, Beerman said:

Mostly agree.  I'd add that after his case dismissed, it was sealed.  Knowing more would help us understand if the Red Flag law could have been used.  But, sounds like the gun was illegal.  If that's true, wouldn't have mattered.

I would say as a poster said here "This was totally preventable....when he threatened to blow up his own mother, and had a standoff with a swat team." would qualify for a Red Flag law, but the records are sealed.  Maybe those investigating it will get access to records we aren't allowed.   

Again, I agree that it wouldn't have mattered with an illegal purchase.   There are no gun laws out there and none to be written to protect us from mass murder.  It's too late.  

 

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