I came across this is little story today, it's not breaking news. I suspect that a member of the housekeeping staff knows something about the bomb threat that required the sweep for weapons.
According to police in Secaucus, the bomb threat — which later was determined to be bogus — was called in to Hudson Regional Hospital on July 18. During a search, bomb detection dogs led investigators to an unlocked office closet containing dozens of firearms.
Among the weapons were 11 handguns and 27 rifles or shotguns, according to police. The closet also contained a .45 caliber semi-automatic rifle with a high-capacity magazine that was determined to be an assault rifle, and a 14-round high-capacity handgun magazine.
The arrested the guy the next day.
What the heck do you think this guy was doing? It sounds very ominous that he was keeping those weapons there.
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There are videos on YouTube of media outlets interviewing a man who states he is the killer's father. The man claimed to be a professional fighter, a Mormon, a republican and a former addict. He said that he doesn't "do gay" and he was "glad" that the shooter wasn't at the club because he was gay. He talked about the maternal grandfather and said that he should be president some day.
This shooter had a tragic childhood, from all appearances.
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6 hours ago, Weetywill said:
My feelings about a made up word are nil. However, considering you like to interject that word into almost everything, I feel like reminding you that it is a fake word when you do. Especially when you demand pin point accuracy and have used dictionary definitions of words in your post. And acusations of the use of hyperbolic speech. Seems peculiar that your style would allow you to use a made up word. Your feelings about Republicans and Trump seem to be the most important aspect of every conversation. I too wonder why that is?
The killer's grandfather's, grandfathers' mother's sister have nothing to do with him really. Other than to assign something negative to a political party you, very clearly feel distain for.
I have been wrong many times and will admit to it. However I'm unsure how you are the one who gets to decide who is right and who is wrong on these forums? You have been wrong also I'm sure, but as another member pointed out, you have trouble admitting to it.
Sure, sure...nil... that's why you mention it over and over with the same emotional words and complaints.
Yeah... the killer's upbringing and family values most definitely influence the moral growth and development. It's odd that you seem to think that they are off limits.
Where did I decide who was right and who was wrong? Oh that's right, I didn't...that's just another emotional comment based on your animus and agitation over my opinions and language. Derp...captain obvious, we are all wrong on occasion and the closer one run to outlets like FOX or OANN or NewsMax, the more often one will be wrong.
There are videos on YouTube of media outlets interviewing a man who states he is the killer's father. The man claimed to be a professional fighter, a Mormon, a republican and a former addict. He said that he doesn't "do gay" and he was "glad" that the shooter wasn't at the club because he was gay. He talked about the maternal grandfather and said that he should be president some day.
This shooter had a tragic childhood, from all appearances.
You mean that a crappy childhood possibly had a part in this incident? That's different than being radicalized. You should be proud of this small step of progress.
It's apparent meth that father said he used to do and MMA blows to the head have done a number on him.
Yes, the father said those things.
In the interest of balance, it's also worth to mention father says he never taught him to use a gun, called the guy who stopped his son a hero, acknowledged the victims were valuable human lives and didn't deserve to to die.
Are the left wing sites not reporting that part of the conversation?
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56 minutes ago, Beerman said:
You mean that a crappy childhood possibly had a part in this incident? That's different than being radicalized. You should be proud of this small step of progress.
It's apparent meth that father said he used to do and MMA blows to the head have done a number on him.
Yes, the father said those things.
In the interest of balance, it's also worth to mention father says he never taught him to use a gun, called the guy who stopped his son a hero, acknowledged the victims were valuable human lives and didn't deserve to to die.
Are the left wing sites not reporting that part of the conversation?
I mean that it appears the killer had a tragic childhood. Of course we all know that most people surviving difficult childhood experiences aren't suicidal and they aren't motivated to shoot a bunch of club goers to death. A bad upbringing doesn't rule out radicalization... noting facts and details about the killer's life doesn't mean that we should jump to conclusions.
What left leaning sites are you referencing? The interview video is available for your perusal... that's better information than commentary from a political pundit on cable television, IMV.
Sure, sure... the alleged father said some things that also sounded empathetic (woke)...but he very clearly was relieved that his child wasn't at that club because he was gay... and THAT is an interesting peek into that troubled family.
How do you know any of that? Or are you making assumptions on what you believe he may be? Of a course magaphile. A made up word with no definition.
Yes, the narratives is the same,.....
A gun was used, the victims were marginalized, his family is Repupulcan. Yup must be a magaphile or Trump involved some way........ Wait, he was non binary? Still his magaphile family fault.......
Perhaps he's a disturbed young man who for whatever reason did what HE did as an individual. His political affiliation and/or his gender identity isn't the primary concern. It could be a factor but we simply do not know yet. It is discusting that instead of focusing on this individual, many are more focused on who he or his family votes for or what gender he identifies with.
Can't you read?
Who is Anderson Lee Aldrich, the suspected Colorado Springs Club Q shooter? (denverpost.com)
Your claim is that El Paso County SO failed to enforce the red flag law. Your source for that is a story written before the law was in place and then was updated 2 days after the governor signed it into law.
Do you have anything that actually backs up your claim?
I think "failed to enforce the red flag law" might be a stretch since the law was passed in 2019 as apparently they might have begrudgingly used it but only in cases where a crime is being committed. But this article says the Sheriff there never used it.
Despite conservatives there thinking it's a ruse to go after guns, even two of the conservative posters here have indicated the Red Flag Law should have been used in this case and the shooting never should have happened.
That is being investigated, so saying it wasn't enforced can't be said at this time. Obviously it wasn't used and the shooter evaded it.
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In 2019, county commissioners declared El Paso a “Second Amendment preservation county” and pledged that county leaders would not “appropriate funds, resources, employees or agencies to initiate unconstitutional seizures in unincorporated El Paso County,” as The Gazette reported.
(The 2021 incident took place in unincorporated El Paso County, according to property records.)
Similarly, in a 2020 statement, the El Paso County Sheriff's said that deputies would only request removal orders and search for guns in “exigent circumstances” and when they could find “probable cause” of a crime. That’s a stricter standard than what’s required by the law, which is focused on the possibility of violence — and not whether someone has committed a crime.
The policy was meant to “ensure that the rights of people to be free from unreasonable search and seizures, and to receive due process of law,” according to the sheriff’s office statement.
At the end of the day, as you've said, "what's to stop a criminal from getting a gun". Nothing. It's too late, there are too many guns. The best we can hope for is that ourselves and our loved ones out living our lives aren't caught up in a mass shooting. Thoughts and prayers.
My feelings about a made up word are nil. However, considering you like to interject that word into almost everything, I feel like reminding you that it is a fake word when you do. Especially when you demand pin point accuracy and have used dictionary definitions of words in your post. And acusations of the use of hyperbolic speech. Seems peculiar that your style would allow you to use a made up word. Your feelings about Republicans and Trump seem to be the most important aspect of every conversation. I too wonder why that is?
The killer's grandfather's, grandfathers' mother's sister have nothing to do with him really. Other than to assign something negative to a political party you, very clearly feel distain for.
As the poster pointed out, sometime fake words make it into our every day language like "selfie". I doubt MAGA-phile will be one of them. You do seem to be hyper focused on MAGA-phile and you've made your point. May I suggest, since apparently posters aren't going to stop using it, that you let it go.
To be fair, yes it's obvious the poster clearly has a distain for all things MAGA and Republican, we've all seen that and read with that understanding. Go forward knowing this.
There's also a poster here that pops in from now and again that clearly has a distain for the Democrat party, grooming, and the like. I don't need to point this out. I know it shapes the poster's style and go from there (usually ignoring them).
Finally to be fair to TMB stated that clearly the poster had a troubled life and did not say it was because of MAGA.
She has explained before that she cannot and that the mods have been unable to assist or remedy. That's why she shares the title...
Thanks. It's probably not an AN nurse problem but some unique problem Subee. But I forgot.
Got it. I think I didn't include "Denver Post" when I first searched. It mentions some online bullying they received which I didn't know about, but otherwise wasn't too insightful.
I do think the "can you read?" comment was unnecessary, clearly a poster here can read.
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There are videos on YouTube of media outlets interviewing a man who states he is the killer's father. The man claimed to be a professional fighter, a Mormon, a republican and a former addict. He said that he doesn't "do gay" and he was "glad" that the shooter wasn't at the club because he was gay. He talked about the maternal grandfather and said that he should be president some day.
This shooter had a tragic childhood, from all appearances.