I came across this is little story today, it's not breaking news. I suspect that a member of the housekeeping staff knows something about the bomb threat that required the sweep for weapons.
According to police in Secaucus, the bomb threat — which later was determined to be bogus — was called in to Hudson Regional Hospital on July 18. During a search, bomb detection dogs led investigators to an unlocked office closet containing dozens of firearms.
Among the weapons were 11 handguns and 27 rifles or shotguns, according to police. The closet also contained a .45 caliber semi-automatic rifle with a high-capacity magazine that was determined to be an assault rifle, and a 14-round high-capacity handgun magazine.
The arrested the guy the next day.
What the heck do you think this guy was doing? It sounds very ominous that he was keeping those weapons there.
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BALAKLIYA, Ukraine — The children left this town in August for a free Summer camp sponsored by the Russian occupiers, enticed by assurances of gifts and of safety from constant shelling.
“The Russians promised it would be two or three weeks, and then the children would be back,” Nadia Borysenko, 29, told me. Her 12-year-old daughter, Daria, was among 25 children from this town in northeastern Ukraine who boarded a bus to the camp.
Russia did not return them, however. Daria and other children are now across the border in Russia, and Moscow is making it very difficult for families to recover their children.
The youngsters here are among many thousands of Ukrainian children whom Russia has taken from Ukraine and in some cases put up for adoption.
The Ukrainian government count is 11,461 children known by name and taken without families to Russia or Russian-controlled areas. President Volodymyr Zelensky told the G20 summit that there are “tens of thousands” more who are known about only indirectly or with less detail.
These war crimes are stunning...stealing children, sometimes after killing their civilian parents in acts of war...I wonder if there will ever be accountability.
There are videos on YouTube of media outlets interviewing a man who states he is the killer's father. The man claimed to be a professional fighter, a Mormon, a republican and a former addict. He said that he doesn't "do gay" and he was "glad" that the shooter wasn't at the club because he was gay. He talked about the maternal grandfather and said that he should be president some day.
This shooter had a tragic childhood, from all appearances.
Yes. This shooter has had a tragic childhood now right? Now that we know he is non binary. Now we see empathy.
Would you have such empathy if he was a sraight man who is Republican, not just his grandpa? Something tells me no.
How the propagandic rhetoric has changed........
Now he's a victim of his families political beliefs, so we should give him empathy.
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6 minutes ago, Weetywill said:
Yes. This shooter has had a tragic childhood now right? Now that we know he is non binary. Now we see empathy.
Would you have such empathy if he was a sraight man who is Republican, not just his grandpa? Something tells me no.
How the propagandic rhetoric has changed........
Now he's a victim of his families political beliefs, so we should give him empathy.
Give me a break!
We know that the attorneys have made the non-binary claims.
When mass murderers are labeled as mentally ill rather than as sociopaths or psychopaths is that an attempt to develop empathy for them? Should we not discuss the specifics of the killer's life so as to avoid disrupting the "propagandic" rhetoric (as you put it)? Isn't it important to try to understand why these mass shootings happen since we can't take the obvious step of removing some weapons from household orificenals?
No, I can't really empathize with someone who mitigates their own emotional pain through mass murder, regardless of the circumstances. Can you empathize with mass shooters?
Did whatever you read tell you that this person is non binary? Probably not........
Just about every single news organization said they were non-binary. Most respected his pronouns. Fox put it in quotes and used their non-binary status to criticize those who blamed anti-LGBT rhetoric.
I've read several stories on Fox and they seem to avoid pronouns altogether preferring to call them by their last name "Aldrich" instead.
As far as empathy for troubled shooters, that does sometimes come out. Gun supporters are often saying "it's not the gun, it's mental illness".
I don't think being non-binary buys him much empathy, but as stories emerge about their troubled upbringing it's noted, as it has been with other mass murderders.
Pretty much all the publicized mass murderers had a troubled life. A good deal of them are cis-gendered heterosexual men.
8 minutes ago, toomuchbaloney said:
No, I can't really empathize with someone who mitigates their own emotional pain through mass murder, regardless of the circumstances. Can you empathize with mass shooters?
You made the statement, that was probably true, that they had a troubled life. You said it with matter of factness rather than "empathetic" and didn't offer it as an excusal of what they did.
We know that the attorneys have made the non-binary claims.
When mass murderers are labeled as mentally ill rather than as sociopaths or psychopaths is that an attempt to develop empathy for them? Should we not discuss the specifics of the killer's life so as to avoid disrupting the "propagandic" rhetoric (as you put it)? Isn't it important to try to understand why these mass shootings happen since we can't take the obvious step of removing some weapons from household orificenals?
No, I can't really empathize with someone who mitigates their own emotional pain through mass murder, regardless of the circumstances. Can you empathize with mass shooters?
Sure. Discuss away. I was referring to the change of tone in reporting for this person now that they discovered he is non binary. If they were a straight man, I would expect your tone would be different. I pick up that it has changed since your first post about it that seemed to be more concerned with his grandpa's political status.
Headlines had more emphasis on it being a gay club, possible hate crime etc. If you look back 4 days ago. Now you will notice that his non binary status, even the fact it was a gay club are no longer emphasis since the discovery that he's non binary.
Are you suggesting that he really isn't non binary and that his defense lawyers are claiming he is for a defense strategy?
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21 minutes ago, Weetywill said:
Sure. Discuss away. I was referring to the change of tone in reporting for this person now that they discovered he is non binary. If they were a straight man, I would expect your tone would be different. I pick up that it has changed since your first post about it that seemed to be more concerned with his grandpa's political status.
Headlines had more emphasis on it being a gay club, possible hate crime etc. If you look back 4 days ago. Now you will notice that his non binary status, even the fact it was a gay club are no longer emphasis since the discovery that he's non binary.
Are you suggesting that he really isn't non binary and that his defense lawyers are claiming he is for a defense strategy?
Reporting always changes as more is learned.
I'm not certain how to respond to your expectations and observations for reporting on this crime.
The only thing that I've suggested is what I've said, the killer's attorneys have advised the public that their client is non-binary. Do you think that they will use it for a defense strategy?
Yes. This shooter has had a tragic childhood now right? Now that we know he is non binary. Now we see empathy.
Would you have such empathy if he was a sraight man who is Republican, not just his grandpa? Something tells me no.
How the propagandic rhetoric has changed........
Now he's a victim of his families political beliefs, so we should give him empathy.
Give me a break!
Hyperbole much? Whoever said we should empathize with a mass murderer? In no way was it implied that he was a victim. Why so twisted over something his lawyer says? It will all come out in the trial if he doesn't kill himself first.
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17 hours ago, NRSKarenRN said:
HLN Network is having a Thanksgiving Weekend Marathon running all 90 episodes of The West Wing over next 3 days through Sunday. I've watched 4 episodes today-- many of same topics shown still being discussed in Biden Administration today -- shown on TV 1999-2006, introduced many to how White House works.
I loved that series. We made room in our busy week to watch those episodes. Is there a series that you follow today? House of Dragons is popular.
Headlines had more emphasis on it being a gay club, possible hate crime etc. If you look back 4 days ago. Now you will notice that his non binary status, even the fact it was a gay club are no longer emphasis since the discovery that he's non binary.
What is the emphasis now that it was discovered he was non-binary? Serious question. I don't really see any emphasis other than the other day "they made their appearance in court".
Of course news organizations, all of them, reported they were non-binary. That's too juicy not to and adds a bit of drama to the story. As does his MAGA grandfather and his real father that thought he committed suicide years ago. News outlets are like that.
Maybe when people found out they were non-binary the talk of "it was a homophobe, probably MAGA religious nut, killer it was an attack on LGBT people" did die down. The knee jerk reaction proved a bit off. But they still could have been a homophobe killer nonetheless. But doesn't it make sense to change the tone a little bit as facts come to light? Such as why would a nonbinary person that's marginalized by society go to an LBGT place where they'd be accepted and murder people? Yeah the emphasis changed. But not in my opinion to "oh they are nonbinary, let's show some empathy for the mental anguish in their life".
I think things toned down because that's the way news cycles tend to work. I checked Fox News (they're still rambling about Fauci), BBC, MSNBC, CNN, CBS and none of them are emphasizing anything because they've moved on. CBS is the only one even covering the Walmart murders but not the Colorado murderer. Maybe because he's African American he's getting a different narrative? (see how that sounds)
Unlike Parkland I think both Colorado Springs and Walmart both are going to just die down in our well of hopelessness in what to do about such things. It's the holidays, we have better things to do what what's another mass shooting anyway. Just another day.
However, I can only acknowledge how you see things and then present how I see things. Interesting two people can see two different things.
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HLN Network is having a Thanksgiving Weekend Marathon running all 90 episodes of The West Wing over next 3 days through Sunday. I've watched 4 episodes today-- many of same topics shown still being discussed in Biden Administration today -- shown on TV 1999-2006, introduced many to how White House works.