I came across this is little story today, it's not breaking news. I suspect that a member of the housekeeping staff knows something about the bomb threat that required the sweep for weapons.
According to police in Secaucus, the bomb threat — which later was determined to be bogus — was called in to Hudson Regional Hospital on July 18. During a search, bomb detection dogs led investigators to an unlocked office closet containing dozens of firearms.
Among the weapons were 11 handguns and 27 rifles or shotguns, according to police. The closet also contained a .45 caliber semi-automatic rifle with a high-capacity magazine that was determined to be an assault rifle, and a 14-round high-capacity handgun magazine.
The arrested the guy the next day.
What the heck do you think this guy was doing? It sounds very ominous that he was keeping those weapons there.
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7 hours ago, MaybeeRN said:
Now we find out the shooter identified as non-binary. My my my how the narrative changes.
The left only cares about the transgender kids.
The narrative is the same. The angry young man, whose grandfather is a proud MAGAphile former elected official who supports the events of January 6, demonstrated that he was having emotional and violent outbursts before he took weapons to a well known club for the queer community to kill people. Now his lawyers tell us that his gender identity may have played a role in his breakdown. His family may have openly mocked gender questioning individuals. Maybe they joked about kids like him.
The narrative is the same. The angry young man, whose grandfather is a proud MAGAphile former elected official who supports the events of January 6, demonstrated that he was having emotional and violent outbursts before he took weapons to a well known club for the queer community to kill people. Now his lawyers tell us that his gender identity may have played a role in his breakdown. His family may have openly mocked gender questioning individuals. Maybe they joked about kids like him.
How do you know any of that? Or are you making assumptions on what you believe he may be? Of a course magaphile. A made up word with no definition.
Yes, the narratives is the same,.....
A gun was used, the victims were marginalized, his family is Repupulcan. Yup must be a magaphile or Trump involved some way........ Wait, he was non binary? Still his magaphile family fault.......
Perhaps he's a disturbed young man who for whatever reason did what HE did as an individual. His political affiliation and/or his gender identity isn't the primary concern. It could be a factor but we simply do not know yet. It is discusting that instead of focusing on this individual, many are more focused on who he or his family votes for or what gender he identifies with.
It is disgusting that instead of focusing on this individual, many are more focused on who he or his family votes for or what gender he identifies with.
These are all things that have been reported by various news outlets along with his prior arrest, and right now all that we have and people try to reconstruct a portrait of the killer. So I'm not understanding you're saying that we'r'e not focused on the individual. You focused on the prior arrest. Is that any more "focused on the individual" than the rest of what we know?
I don't think his grandfather being MAGA and approving of 9/11 is all that relevant. I have people in my family that are conservative and they don't affect me.
Yes, he was a disturbed individual but people have an curiosity as to what/how/when, etc.
Like I personally have said and Biden has said we don't have a motive. Apparently, the people investigating are still looking at the angle of a hate crime. I'll leave it at that and not do too much speculation.
Soon it will all be forgotten and we'll move on to the next mass murderer.
How do you know any of that? Or are you making assumptions on what you believe he may be? Of a course magaphile. A made up word with no definition.
Yes, the narratives is the same,.....
A gun was used, the victims were marginalized, his family is Repupulcan. Yup must be a magaphile or Trump involved some way........ Wait, he was non binary? Still his magaphile family fault.......
Perhaps he's a disturbed young man who for whatever reason did what HE did as an individual. His political affiliation and/or his gender identity isn't the primary concern. It could be a factor but we simply do not know yet. It is discusting that instead of focusing on this individual, many are more focused on who he or his family votes for or what gender he identifies with.
Tell it to MaybeeRN - she’s the one who brought up the shooter’s gender identity, claiming that it “changes the narrative”.
No one called the shooter a magaphile, a Republican, a conservative or anything else but a mentally I’ll shooter. The question was asked why the Colorado red flag law was not enforced - a perfectly reasonable question. Where you got the rest of that stuff in your post is anyone’s guess.
The narrative is the same. The angry young man, whose grandfather is a proud MAGAphile former elected official who supports the events of January 6, demonstrated that he was having emotional and violent outbursts before he took weapons to a well known club for the queer community to kill people. Now his lawyers tell us that his gender identity may have played a role in his breakdown. His family may have openly mocked gender questioning individuals. Maybe they joked about kids like him.
We don't know how he was raised but based on how many of these people feel, being loving and supportive of a nonbinary grandchild would seem unlikely. Children raised in such environment do often come out of them disturbed. I think this is why so many people of gender nonconformity and homosexuals commit suicide as it's often turned inward. Having good family support can make the difference between life and death with some people.
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1 hour ago, Weetywill said:
How do you know any of that? Or are you making assumptions on what you believe he may be? Of a course magaphile. A made up word with no definition.
Yes, the narratives is the same,.....
A gun was used, the victims were marginalized, his family is Repupulcan. Yup must be a magaphile or Trump involved some way........ Wait, he was non binary? Still his magaphile family fault.......
Perhaps he's a disturbed young man who for whatever reason did what HE did as an individual. His political affiliation and/or his gender identity isn't the primary concern. It could be a factor but we simply do not know yet. It is discusting that instead of focusing on this individual, many are more focused on who he or his family votes for or what gender he identifies with.
I know things because I read. I didn't say anything about what the shooter may or may not "be" beyond calling him a terrorist and a killer. The grandfather wears MAGA paraphernalia and supports the MAGA attack on the transfer of power that occurred January 6th, the personificationof a MAGAphile. That you ignore the definition of the term MAGAphile is of no real consequence.
I didn't assign any fault but I am discussing the details of the case and asking questions. What details have I gotten wrong?
For that matter, it’s the shooter’s own lawyers claiming they are non-binary. Could be true, could be a desperate attempt at an insanity defense, as in the old “abuse excuse”. Either way, shooter is a murderer.
I saw some pics of the shooter just now. He looks rough.
It just gets more interesting.
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It was also revealed Tuesday that Aldrich’s name was changed more than six years ago as a teenager, after filing a legal petition in Texas seeking to “protect himself” from a father with a criminal history including domestic violence against Aldrich’s mother.
Aldrich was known as Nicholas Franklin Brink until 2016. Weeks before turning 16, Aldrich petitioned a Texas court for a name change, court records show. A petition for the name change was submitted on Brink’s behalf by their grandparents, who were their legal guardians at the time.
Obviously the lawyers will go with "they are nonbinary, so how can it be a hate crime", and "they was an abused child and deserves some sympathy for being disturbed"
Either way, they are unlikely to breath a breath of fresh air outside of prison in their lifetime.
Is the grandparent who approves of the behavior observed on 1/6 one of the custodial guardians?
Victim? Terrorist? Hopelessly mentally ill for whatever reason? Who knows.
I saw a couple short clips of the shooter’s arraignment. They were restrained in a wheelchair and looked like they had one too many B52s. They also looked pretty badly beaten. Their face was a mess and if they were my patient, I’d be quietly leaving the code cart right outside the door. I’m surprised they still had an airway.
Chances are good that it wasn’t their first beating, either - especially if they really are trans.
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8 minutes ago, heron said:
Is the grandparent who approves of the behavior observed on 1/6 one of the custodial guardians?
Victim? Terrorist? Hopelessly mentally ill for whatever reason? Who knows.
I saw a couple short clips of the shooter’s arraignment. They were restrained in a wheelchair and looked like they had one too many B52s. They also looked pretty badly beaten. Their face was a mess and if they were my patient, I’d be quietly leaving the code cart right outside the door. I’m surprised they still had an airway.
Chances are good that it wasn’t their first beating, either - especially if they really are trans.
Yes. Randy Voepel is the maternal grandfather that I mentioned. It is the maternal grandparents who have been the support for the mother and child although some reporting indicates that their relationship is now troubled. The threats of violence with the bomb may have been precipitated by news that the grandparents were considering moving to Florida.
These are all things that have been reported by various news outlets along with his prior arrest, and right now all that we have and people try to reconstruct a portrait of the killer. So I'm not understanding you're saying that we'r'e not focused on the individual. You focused on the prior arrest. Is that any more "focused on the individual" than the rest of what we know?
I don't think his grandfather being MAGA and approving of 9/11 is all that relevant. I have people in my family that are conservative and they don't affect me.
Yes, he was a disturbed individual but people have an curiosity as to what/how/when, etc.
Like I personally have said and Biden has said we don't have a motive. Apparently, the people investigating are still looking at the angle of a hate crime. I'll leave it at that and not do too much speculation.
Soon it will all be forgotten and we'll move on to the next mass murderer.
Yes. I agree with what you say. It's hard to discuss anything but, because the info we get from media is all about political affliation, etc. I was more referring to the media in my comment.
Not speculating is a good idea that is lost on today's media and personal discussions.
I know things because I read. I didn't say anything about what the shooter may or may not "be" beyond calling him a terrorist and a killer. The grandfather wears MAGA paraphernalia and supports the MAGA attack on the transfer of power that occurred January 6th, the personificationof a MAGAphile. That you ignore the definition of the term MAGAphile is of no real consequence.
I didn't assign any fault but I am discussing the details of the case and asking questions. What details have I gotten wrong?
A mass shooting in which we do not know much about and you find a way to throw in the fake word megaphile and insert something from Jan.6.
The political affiliation of his grandfather is of no relevance. This person did the crime, not his family or his or their political affiliation.
I would be cautious because the irrelevance of this person's grandfather political affiliation may not even be true. Wouldn't be the first time the media got it "wrong".
2 hours ago, heron said:
Tell it to MaybeeRN - she’s the one who brought up the shooter’s gender identity, claiming that it “changes the narrative”.
No one called the shooter a magaphile, a Republican, a conservative or anything else but a mentally I’ll shooter. The question was asked why the Colorado red flag law was not enforced - a perfectly reasonable question. Where you got the rest of that stuff in your post is anyone’s guess.
Right and had she not I highly doubt anyone else here would have....
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The narrative is the same. The angry young man, whose grandfather is a proud MAGAphile former elected official who supports the events of January 6, demonstrated that he was having emotional and violent outbursts before he took weapons to a well known club for the queer community to kill people. Now his lawyers tell us that his gender identity may have played a role in his breakdown. His family may have openly mocked gender questioning individuals. Maybe they joked about kids like him.