I came across this is little story today, it's not breaking news. I suspect that a member of the housekeeping staff knows something about the bomb threat that required the sweep for weapons.
According to police in Secaucus, the bomb threat — which later was determined to be bogus — was called in to Hudson Regional Hospital on July 18. During a search, bomb detection dogs led investigators to an unlocked office closet containing dozens of firearms.
Among the weapons were 11 handguns and 27 rifles or shotguns, according to police. The closet also contained a .45 caliber semi-automatic rifle with a high-capacity magazine that was determined to be an assault rifle, and a 14-round high-capacity handgun magazine.
The arrested the guy the next day.
What the heck do you think this guy was doing? It sounds very ominous that he was keeping those weapons there.
You seemingly take pride in having a critical eye towards the police and for being a connoisseur of a wide variety of media sources. I'm surprised then that you are unaware of any websites that also keep a watchful eye on the police.
Perhaps if the magaphiles cared more about their tranny kids, the allegedly non-binary Colorado Springs shooter wouldn’t have gone out of their mind. Imagine being raised by people who want to kill you …
Some of the most virulent homophobes are, themselves, closet cases or homosexuals who have been “cured”. Why would transfolk be different?
I appreciate your honesty. You are at least showing your opinion is based on bias and not facts.
Some heavily imply it's the fault of the MAGAphiles. Then, when the facts start to paint a different picture, they play games of deflection and semantics.
Some heavily imply it's the fault of the MAGAphiles. Then, when the facts start to paint a different picture, they play games of deflection and semantics.
Umm … actually, I did blame the magaphile subculture for possibly so damaging a trans child that he decided that murder was their only alternative to suicide (aka self-murder).
It amazes me that posters who claim to be nurses would be so blind to the possible effects of emotional abuse. Do your research before you crow about “changing narratives”.
That the shooter might be non-binary only reinforces the point that hate plays a significant role in the magaphile subculture.
ETA: What is most interesting about your and MaybeeRN’s posts is that you both seem to think that being non-binary and a magaphile are mutually exclusive. Why would you assume that?
Homophobia/transphobia be it blatant, subtext or internalized by the homosexual and transperson themselves has been alive and well for a long time. Many other than murder don't go reported. "Gay bashing" was and is a thing. Gay panic is a thing...just ask the mother of Matthew Shepherd.
I think the root is not MAGA, but conservative Christianity which lead to them influencing the law, also the mental health community for the longest time classified it as a mental health disease.
We can politicize it because, primarily republicans have politicized it. But Democrats have only recently taken a different position (there were some exceptions of course like Pelosi during the initial onset of AIDS but even Obama wasn't for gay marriage)
So it's easy to make the leap that conservative republicans with their agenda don't help. I grew up in NC during the Jesse Helms years and it was alive and well then.
Hate crimes, beatings and murders of the LBGT community, particularly transpersons has been alive and well for a long time. This also results in high rates of homelessness and suicide for gay teens.
Imagine growing up in an environment of love and acceptance where it didn't matter. Imagine a disturbed person not hearing that and not considering homosexuals a target for murder (or anyone different for that matter).
It has gotten better and I think health care professionals are at the forefront of change. After being fired from a job in the 80's for being gay, when I became a nurse I found a culture of acceptance. The unit I started on was one that volunteered to take AIDS patients. (We didn't have a designated unit as it wasn't a huge problem like it was in New York or San Francisco). I've also felt accepted and free to be who I am.
Even people who spew out the word "tranny" or "man in a dress" I would presume are good care providers and leave that prejudice at the door.
It does concern me that politicians want to criminalize health care professionals or limit how we treat transgendered persons but that's another rabbit hole.
It's too simplistic to blame MAGA. Although it is established that the Colorado Springs murderer's grandfather was MAGA.
Homophobia/transphobia be it blatant, subtext or internalized by the homosexual and transperson themselves has been alive and well for a long time.
I think the root is not MAGA, but conservative Christianity. We can politicize it because, primarily republicans have politicized it. But Democrats have only recently taken a different position.
So it's easy to make the leap that conservative republicans with their agenda don't help. I grew up in NC during the Jesse Helms years and it was alive and well then.
Hate crimes, beatings and murders of the LBGT community, particularly transpersons has been alive and well for a long time. This also results in high rates of homelessness and suicide for gay teens.
Imagine growing up in an environment of love and acceptance where it didn't matter.
It has gotten better and I think health care professionals are at the forefront of change. After being fired from a job in the 80's for being gay, when I became a nurse I found a culture of acceptance. The unit I started on was one that volunteered to take AIDS patients. (We didn't have a designated unit as it wasn't a huge problem like it was in New York or San Francisco). I've also felt accepted and free to be who I am.
It does concern me that politicians want to criminalize health care professionals or limit how we treat transgendered persons but that's another rabbit hole.
It's too simplistic to blame MAGA. Although it is established that the Colorado Springs murderer's grandfather was MAGA.
You’re right about simplistic thinking, if you think of a mere political movement. I don’t - I see magaphilism as a subculture that has grown out of the convergence of a number of different world views, including conservative Christianity, white supremacy and toxic masculinity (to name a few). Growing up in as conservative a setting as Colorado Springs is said to be, it seems to me that the shooter would be even more likely to be exposed at a young age to be exposed to hateful imagery than someone like myself - an adult-lifelong lefty.
Hey! D’you think that’s what MaybeeRN meant by “sexualizing and grooming children”?!
Umm … actually, I did blame the magaphile subculture for possibly so damaging a trans child that he decided that murder was their only alternative to suicide (aka self-murder).
It amazes me that posters who claim to be nurses would be so blind to the possible effects of emotional abuse. Do your research before you crow about “changing narratives”.
That the shooter might be non-binary only reinforces the point that hate plays a significant role in the magaphile subculture.
ETA: What is most interesting about your and MaybeeRN’s posts is that you both seem to think that being non-binary and a magaphile are mutually exclusive. Why would you assume that?
You have zero proof of any of this crap you are writing. Typical of liberals to open mouth and insert foot frequently before all the facts come out.
You’re right about simplistic thinking, if you think of a mere political movement. I don’t - I see magaphilism as a subculture that has grown out of the convergence of a number of different world views, including conservative Christianity, white supremacy and toxic masculinity (to name a few). Growing up in as conservative a setting as Colorado Springs is said to be, it seems to me that the shooter would be even more likely to be exposed at a young age to be exposed to hateful imagery than someone like myself - an adult-lifelong lefty.
Hey! D’you think that’s what MaybeeRN meant by “sexualizing and grooming children”?!
"sexualizing and grooming children" isn't something I'm familiar with except in the concept of those child beauty pageants. So I'm not sure what that means. It's a false based narrative that queer people like myself want any part of that. We just want children to learn that we exist and if they are like us, it's okay or if their friend has two fathers, that's okay too.
Also, while I think it's okay to speculate and come up with theories, right now we don't know and may never know what went inside the head and how the environment influenced the shooter. I'll stay out of that one.
"sexualizing and grooming children" isn't something I'm familiar with except in the concept of those child beauty pageants. So I'm not sure what that means. It's a false based narrative that queer people like myself want any part of that. We just want children to learn that we exist and if they are like us, it's okay or if their friend has two fathers, that's okay too.
Also, while I think it's okay to speculate and come up with theories, right now we don't know and may never know what went inside the head and how the environment influenced the shooter. I'll stay out of that one.
show me the left wing news sites covering this crap. Where are the demands from the left to release the Jeffrey Epstein list of clients. The lefts silence is approval.
show me the left wing news sites covering this crap. Where are the demands from the left to release the Jeffrey Epstein list of clients. The lefts silence is approval.
I don’t know about ads, but I did watch a recent balenciaga fashion show on YouTube and was pretty repulsed. They seem to have made a big PR mistake. They thought they were going with what sells when the only people obsessed with children’s sex lives are far-right-wingers.
The Balenciaga is a newly developing story, but I'm seeing it all over the internet on CNN, Cosmopolitan, CBS and Newsweek. There's no deafening silence.
I've read research over the years that 1 in 4 women report being sexually abused at some point in their life and childhood...most of them by male relatives. The deafening outrage over drag queen reading hour as being grooming is maddening considering the reality people face from cisgendered men.
Combined post.
There's been another mass shooting in a Walmart. I wonder if he was a Democrat or Republican?
You seemingly take pride in having a critical eye towards the police and for being a connoisseur of a wide variety of media sources. I'm surprised then that you are unaware of any websites that also keep a watchful eye on the police.
You must be surprised since you are trying to forward, without evidence, that I frequent such sites. I keep a watchful eye on current events and I search for credible sources of information about those events, which I sometimes share in these threads.
You mentioned a website but now it seems that the mention was just a wild guess or assumption or theory that you are just sharing here about me. What is the purpose of that? Should I guess or assume things and then publish those guesses or assumptions? Of course not. We should simply discuss the topics in good faith and maybe ask each other relevant questions.
1 hour ago, heron said:
You’re right about simplistic thinking, if you think of a mere political movement. I don’t - I see magaphilism as a subculture that has grown out of the convergence of a number of different world views, including conservative Christianity, white supremacy and toxic masculinity (to name a few). Growing up in as conservative a setting as Colorado Springs is said to be, it seems to me that the shooter would be even more likely to be exposed at a young age to be exposed to hateful imagery than someone like myself - an adult-lifelong lefty.
Hey! D’you think that’s what MaybeeRN meant by “sexualizing and grooming children”?!
Indeed. Like early 20th century fascist authoritarians, our 45th president coalesced a variety of angry groups under the banner of MAGA. He successfully united white nationalists, anarchists, white supremacists, paramilitary groups, political Christians and others by identifying common enemies and causes for them to fight against. Those groups did not translate into a unified voting block on the midterms but they remain angry.
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You seemingly take pride in having a critical eye towards the police and for being a connoisseur of a wide variety of media sources. I'm surprised then that you are unaware of any websites that also keep a watchful eye on the police.