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OCNRN63 is a RN and specializes in Oncology; medical specialty website.

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No, I failed to see how the OP pointed that out. They assumed that the second career changers who expressed interest in pursing alternative forms of nursing thought they'd be able to get those jobs immediately after graduating. I failed to read evidence to that effect while reading their post.

Funny, it was crystal clear to me.

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Ruby Vee has 40 years experience as a BSN and specializes in CCU, SICU, CVSICU, Precepting & Teaching.

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Funny, it was crystal clear to me.

Me too.

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LadyFree28 has 10 years experience as a BSN, RN and specializes in Pediatrics, Rehab, Trauma.

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OK everybody. The OP is just following her established thread pattern. If you look at her history over the years (yes years) she pops up with this same "Gee' date=' golly, why?" thread, over and over. Usually I and casts of thousands prove her back into hiding, but hey. She's up and posted the same thread again. The encounter with 2nd career/degree students always a bit different, for flavor, I suppose. Me thinks the fear is competition. Now, OP maybe you need another degree?[/quote']

Gee, ya think some one has an ax to grind over, golly, second, 3rd, infinity Nurses and nursing students-well, why??? :cheeky:

Off to do my detective nursing...;) You post piqued my interest. :)

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DawnJ has 2 years experience.

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I'm a second career nursing student who had a very successful first career, but it was soul-less. I don't think anyone in my class is unaware of the difficulties of getting that first job post-licensure.

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seconddegreebsn has 1 years experience.

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DNS, everything I've seen you post seems to hint that you have an extremely low opinion of new grad nurses in NYC across the board - obviously, as one, this is very worrisome ;) Given how many there are, I find it hard to believe that we can paint them all as lazy, unprofessional, etc...you would need a very wide brush.

I think one positive thing I can take from my previous job (and degree) is that I can leverage myself in this tough market should I not be able to get a floor job - I have experience beyond nursing that means if one of those coveted floor nurses doesn't come to me, I'm not going to be penniless. I have a huge administrative and management background - maybe that's where I'll end up, and if so, a job is a job to me. I have other skills, that I can use with or without my nursing degree (preferably with, but let the market dictate that, I guess). It's better to have that hustle that to put all your eggs in one basket, waiting years to get your first staff nursing job. I still freelance a little bit at my old non-healthcare job - there's elements of leadership, management and technology. Can't hurt to keep those kind of skills fresh.

I also take some issue at the fact that you basically outed the school which these students attend (it's not hard to figure out based on the details you've posted). I'm not an student there, but I'd be very hurt if I was, and upset. I would mention this post to my professors. Can you imagine if they had come here speaking poorly of your facility, of the nurse managers they'd met? I know several people who attend that program, all of them are very capable and hard working.

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Beautiful Mind RN specializes in Med/Surg, Oncology, Epic CT.

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Hello OP,

I would like to say, I am sorry to hear about your negative experience with a cohort of nursing students. I know it really grinds my gears when people in a professional setting do not act or dress appropriately.

In saying that, please know not all cohorts of nursing students are not like this.

I too, go to a private nursing school that is on the expensive side and in my cohort, there are second degree nurses who have ambitions beyond bedside nursing.

Our school always pushes us to be ambitious(such as continue our education beyond the BSN) but they also have given awareness that the first job of a new grad might be the most difficult one to accept as it might not be a dream job right off the bat. I know personally, some of my preceptors have told them this as well (including me). I should note, our school has a rigorous dressing code and if we do not adhere to it, not only will be written up, but we will be asked to leave the clinical site (a lot of our professors are old school, which is great to have because it shows us discipline in the professional world).

Not all private schools (or nursing schools in general) are created equal. The ones that truly want you to succeed will be honest with you, set your foundation, and then lead you in the right direction (with job aid and/or resume help).

As a nursing student of my school, I can say, I am well aware of the challenge for new grads and even though I wish to go into a specialized field one day, that I will not be picky with my first job nor will I be quick to leave it after the 1-2 year hump.

I should also note, that even though my school have given information, it has been basic. Any unanswered questions I needed, I researched on my own...which is what I believe every adult pursuing nursing school should do, as it is their responsibility to do so (they are paying the bills after all)!

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Again, I think the OP's problem is with nursing students who expect to immediately attain a leadership position without ever having stepped near the bedside.

I read that - but my counter-argument is that OP simply has no way of knowing that - I felt it was quite judgmental to assume that. And I think it's kind of a little obvious that you simply cannot jump from student nurse to a leadership position post-grad or any of the clinical nursing specialties for that matter without actually stepping near the bedside first...

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Fiona59 has 18 years experience.

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I read that - but my counter-argument is that OP simply has no way of knowing that - I felt it was quite judgmental to assume that. And I think it's kind of a little obvious that you simply cannot jump from student nurse to a leadership position post-grad or any of the clinical nursing specialties for that matter without actually stepping near the bedside first...

No, not really. I remember working alongside an instructor with an RN student who was in our version of the post degree education course. I asked her if this was an area that would interest her upon graduation. I'll never forget her answer "No, I'm going to be a manager".

It's not that rare. We hear it at least once a year when we have these students on the units. I've met one who decided ENT/Opthamology was the unit she wanted to go to because there is "no pericare involved".

These students aren't stupid just very naïve.

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BlueDevil,DNP has 25 years experience as a DNP, RN and specializes in FNP, ONP.

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My son is studying aerospace engineering and wants nothing more than to be an astronaut. He has had lasik surgery already, at age 20, and blew out his knee playing rugby. I doubt he's going to pass a NASA physical. Are we supposed to tell him to hang it up and be a plumber instead because his dreams are "unrealistic?" Why should we be spending a zillion dollars a year for him to go to Cal Tech if he can't go to the Space Station? By some people's logic he should have just gone to a community college, right? He may or may not ever live on the Internat'l Space Station, but he may build the next shuttle that goes there. I think that's a pretty good 2nd place finish.

I don't grasp the notion of being offended by ambitious students. Who would even think of trying to discourage them just because you think their aspirations are "unrealistic?" That is so petty and small, I can't even imagine why one would consider trying to "set them straight." The world is what it is, and very few of us are going to grow up and be Paul Farmer or Marie Curie, but if we didn't think we could do anything, no one would try and then nothing great would ever get accomplished. Stop raining on other people's parades people. Give them the tour; show them the cafeteria, the john, the coat closet, keep your mouth shut and let them live their dream. Keep your pessimism to yourself. Good grief.

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TU RN has 5 years experience and specializes in ICU, PCU.

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BlueDevil just won the thread.

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