Voter suppression is UnAmerican and can not be tolerated. Majority Vets get their meds shipped via USPS -60,000/day
Philadelphia Inquirer 8/14/2020
Trump’s assault on Postal Service and voting is a plot against American democracy | Editorial
QuoteOn Thursday morning, after months of attacks on the United States Postal Service and vote-by-mail, President Donald Trump admitted that the two efforts are connected as a part of one voter disenfranchisement effort. In a Fox Business Network interview, Trump said that the sticking point for him in the negotiations over a new coronavirus economic relief package is Post Office funding: “If we don’t make a deal, that means they don’t get the money. That means they can’t have universal mail-in voting. They just can’t have it.”
Trump is not "taking over" anything. The President has voiced a legitimate concern re: voter fraud and as usual the left wing media/Dems goes wild, just as the do with anything/everything Trump.
https://www.foxnews.com/opinion/trump-vs-dems-on-mail-in-voting-jason-chaffetz
Here is Obama doing the same thing..
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/postal-service-flashback-obama-admin-removed-thousands-of-mailboxes
And for those who think the media is not bias against Trump
https://www.foxnews.com/media/evening-newscasts-150-times-more-negative-trump
The Dems and their media have done nothing bus bash Trump for the last 4 yrs with blatant propaganda while simultaneously giving Dems special/better treatment, it is shameful that the media is doing this to our Country, to we the people. Taking words out of context like saying Trump supports white supremacists ( which he did not say) while at the same time not calling out the Dems for not calling out and doing something about antifa and BLM for actually destroying/burning/looting cities and personal property and killing innocent people. See what voting for Dems will get you, more destruction of their Dem run cities which will probably start to move like a cancer to all cities because the Dem "leadership" in those cities not only does nothing to stop it but also encourages it. (Seattle, Portland, Chicago, NYC, LA, SanFran etc) Many of these have had problems for a long time with no results.
And since I am sure that the (used to be) main stream news is not reporting Bidens racism, although strangely enough his new running mate pointed it out during the primaries (hmm wonder how she got over that so fast), here is a little sampling
Not to mention the creepy times he is always huggin/kissin on women, the time he was talking about kids playing with the hair on his legs in the pool, or the obvious colluding with a foriegn country for financial benefit for his son Hunter. Yeah, he is just what this country needs, another career politician who already ran for Pres twice and failed, and his VP running mate who ran a terrible campaign and stepped out early (or maybe she did that to go smoke pot cuz that is what ppl from Jamaica do). All this and we havent even got to the radical agenda they are trying to push. What a great team (sarcasm)!
Thread is about Trumps assault on Mail in Voting.... use other threads to discuss general election issues please as this issue is time sensitive regarding election.
It's not clear the House bill will ever get a vote in the GOP-controlled Senate.
A birthday gift for me! Tune into CSPAN for the hearing of the House Oversight and Reform Committee on 8/24
Postmaster General Louis DeJoy has agreed to testify before Congress next week about controversial changes to the United States Postal Service.
3 hours ago, subee said:The factcheck article you included only proves my point. First, he said they were "good people on both sides." Then when someone in the WH *** slapped him, he backs away from his original statement. So please tell me, precisely, what I have said was false. Why did the Proud Boys get to be equivocated with mostly peaceful protestors? No one drove a car into the neo-Nazis. None of them died. Do you really believe that both groups are morally equal? If so, that's a problem.
Absolutely. One side of the Charlottesville demonstration was composed of white supremacist extremists. Trump supporters quibbling over what complimentary term Trump used is repugnant, really.
For me, a useful moral compass gauge is to see what his fellow Republicans have to say about Trump's behavior. It's appalling to see what they have sanctioned, but in this instance you had GOP senators Orrin Hatch, Lindsey Graham, Marco Rubio, Cory Gardner publicly rebuking Trump over that comment.
18 minutes ago, nursel56 said:Absolutely. One side of the Charlottesville demonstration was composed of white supremacist extremists. Trump supporters quibbling over what complimentary term Trump used is repugnant, really.
For me, a useful moral compass gauge is to see what his fellow Republicans have to say about Trump's behavior. It's appalling to see what they have sanctioned, but in this instance you had GOP senators Orrin Hatch, Lindsey Graham, Marco Rubio, Cory Gardner publicly rebuking Trump over that comment.
There were multiple groups in that event. Sure there were some white supremacists who Trump condemned but you also had peaceful people protesting the removal of a statue. You also has AntiFa showing up with weapons and throwing bricks at cars.
Trump has been a civil rights icon his entire life and to think he would condone any supremacy whether it be white supremacists or the other groups rioting and protesting around the nation on a daily basis is just plain slander against a man who has been fighting for all Americans since he took office. I don’t care if senators are GOP or democrat. Both sides can succumb to the media twisting someone’s words. If Trump is a white supremacist sympathizer then he is a really horrible one. When did they start dating black women and supporting Israel?
5 minutes ago, HCarroll362 said:There were multiple groups in that event. Sure there were some white supremacists who Trump condemned but you also had peaceful people protesting the removal of a statue. You also has AntiFa showing up with weapons and throwing bricks at cars.
Trump has been a civil rights icon his entire life and to think he would condone any supremacy whether it be white supremacists or the other groups rioting and protesting around the nation on a daily basis is just plain slander against a man who has been fighting for all Americans since he took office. I don’t care if senators are GOP or democrat. Both sides can succumb to the media twisting someone’s words. If Trump is a white supremacist sympathizer than he is a really horrible one. When did they start dating black women and supporting Israel?
There's a Trump dating a black woman? Just Google US vs. Trump civil rights suit and you will see that he and his father lost the case and had to settle for discriminating against Blacks in Trump built apartments in NYC.
Wouldn't a civil rights warrior have attended John Lewis's funeral or given him some kind of official tribute? Name one civil rights award he has won. I couldn't find a single one. Now as to Israel - Of course Trump sympathizes with Netenyahu who was indicted in November for fraud and corruption charges. They are kindred spirits. I mean, who else besides Trump was ever president and had to pay a $2,000,000 fine for stealing from his own "charity" from which he was the only beneficiary? Secondly, his biggest contributor is Stanley Adelson (casino macher) who would pull his donations if Trump weren't "pro" Israel. Only time will tell if this new deal lasts longer than the deal with North Korea, as if SK could be handled with a quick in and out flight and a handshake. So stupid. He thought Mideast peace could be accomplished if he just assigned the job to Jared who can't crawl out of a wet paper bag without help. He couldn't even make money with his 666 Fifth Ave. in Manhattan and had to get bailed out. Much like the taxpayers of Atlantic City had to bail out the failed Trump Casino after Trump promised the city that he would never cost them $1.
Trump is even bad-mouthing Fox now. The family has been making overtures to OAN for months in anticipation of owning their own news outlet and let the Evangelicals who run the station stump for him full-time.
Civil rights icon.....not
22 minutes ago, subee said:There's a Trump dating a black woman? Just Google US vs. Trump civil rights suit and you will see that he and his father lost the case and had to settle for discriminating against Blacks in Trump built apartments in NYC.
Wouldn't a civil rights warrior have attended John Lewis's funeral or given him some kind of official tribute? Name one civil rights award he has won. I couldn't find a single one. Now as to Israel - Of course Trump sympathizes with Netenyahu who was indicted in November for fraud and corruption charges. They are kindred spirits. I mean, who else besides Trump was ever president and had to pay a $2,000,000 fine for stealing from his own "charity" from which he was the only beneficiary? Secondly, his biggest contributor is Stanley Adelson (casino macher) who would pull his donations if Trump weren't "pro" Israel. Only time will tell if this new deal lasts longer than the deal with North Korea, as if SK could be handled with a quick in and out flight and a handshake. So stupid. He thought Mideast peace could be accomplished if he just assigned the job to Jared who can't crawl out of a wet paper bag without help. He couldn't even make money with his 666 Fifth Ave. in Manhattan and had to get bailed out. Much like the taxpayers of Atlantic City had to bail out the failed Trump Casino after Trump promised the city that he would never cost them $1.
Trump is even bad-mouthing Fox now. The family has been making overtures to OAN for months in anticipation of owning their own news outlet and let the Evangelicals who run the station stump for him full-time.
Civil rights icon.....not
“Donald Trump denied any racial discrimination, but said his managers tried to weed out certain kinds of tenants. “What we didn’t do was rent to welfare cases, white or black," Trump wrote in a 1987 book.
The Trumps and their company entered into a consent decree settling the litigation in 1975. The agreement contained no admission of wrongdoing, but required the Trump firm to institute a series of safeguards to make sure apartments were rented without regard to race, color, religion, sex or national origin.”
No admission of wrongdoing. Was shown to be against low income people and really a situation of disgruntled employees slandering their boss. People who run billion dollar businesses face lawsuits. What else is new? If you are so critical of his business skills and history tell me when you create a billion dollar empire and selflessly run for President in your golden years. Logic can’t reach people like you with TDS. All you have is hate and intolerance. I patiently waited while Obama was in office apologizing for the USA, bashing business owners, and celebrating the lives of terrorists who joked about wrapping tires around white peoples necks in South Africa and setting them on fire. Where you were during those years? I hope you were just as vocal.
29 minutes ago, GordonGekko said:“Donald Trump denied any racial discrimination, but said his managers tried to weed out certain kinds of tenants. “What we didn’t do was rent to welfare cases, white or black," Trump wrote in a 1987 book.
The Trumps and their company entered into a consent decree settling the litigation in 1975. The agreement contained no admission of wrongdoing, but required the Trump firm to institute a series of safeguards to make sure apartments were rented without regard to race, color, religion, sex or national origin.”
No admission of wrongdoing. Was shown to be against low income people and really a situation of disgruntled employees slandering their boss. People who run billion dollar businesses face lawsuits. What else is new? If you are so critical of his business skills and history tell me when you create a billion dollar empire and selflessly run for President in your golden years. Logic can’t reach people like you with TDS. All you have is hate and intolerance. I patiently waited while Obama was in office apologizing for the USA, bashing business owners, and celebrating the lives of terrorists who joked about wrapping tires around white peoples necks in South Africa and setting them on fire. Where you were during those years? I hope you were just as vocal.
32 minutes ago, GordonGekko said:Logic can’t reach people like you with TDS.
There's that TDS again!
Which is it?
QuoteTrump Derangement Syndrome or Trump Delusion Syndrome. The inability to find fault with Trump due to the fact that you voted for him in 2016. (Urban Dictionary)
OR
TDS is an acronym for Trump Derangement Syndrome, a term applied to people who express deep loathing and fear of President Donald Trump. (Dictionary.com)
1 hour ago, subee said:he just assigned the job to Jared who can't crawl out of a wet paper bag without help.
This! This was the best laugh I had all day!
Getting back to Trump's manipulation of the Post Office:
In my city, a friend wrote this to me today:
QuoteThe local USPS branch located at ...............in ............ closed abruptly today at 12:30 CT. I and others were turned away with the explanation that the office was closed due to an “emergency order.” We were directed to the main PO in town and assured that the branch would be back open tomorrow.
Maybe it’s a coincidence, but in the current climate, who knows? In all my 60 years, I never recall this happening before
UPDATE @ 2:25 there is a report that that branch office is back open
Couldn't have been due to Covid 19.
In March, my husbands mail-orders meds were shipped next day delivery, arriving 2-3days after expected date. Past month, my sale circulars usually coming on Thursday, popped in mailbox on Saturday after sales started---though due to severe storms.
Couldn't get Turbotax to send tax forms in, so mailed them USPS return receipt requested --stamped received on 7/14/20; form arrived back in my mailbox 8/14 -a month later. I get mail daily late afternoon around same time so wasn't putting all the pieces together until Philly papers having citizens reporting mail delays---then it all clicked upon hearing Trump trash mail in voting + delays it will cause, removing mail sorting machines.
VERY WORRIED now for democracy.
subee, MSN, CRNA
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The factcheck article you included only proves my point. First, he said they were "good people on both sides." Then when someone in the WH *** slapped him, he backs away from his original statement. So please tell me, precisely, what I have said was false. Why did the Proud Boys get to be equivocated with mostly peaceful protestors? No one drove a car into the neo-Nazis. None of them died. Do you really believe that both groups are morally equal? If so, that's a problem.