Voter suppression is UnAmerican and can not be tolerated. Majority Vets get their meds shipped via USPS -60,000/day
Philadelphia Inquirer 8/14/2020
Trump’s assault on Postal Service and voting is a plot against American democracy | Editorial
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On Thursday morning, after months of attacks on the United States Postal Service and vote-by-mail, President Donald Trump admitted that the two efforts are connected as a part of one voter disenfranchisement effort. In a Fox Business Network interview, Trump said that the sticking point for him in the negotiations over a new coronavirus economic relief package is Post Office funding: “If we don’t make a deal, that means they don’t get the money. That means they can’t have universal mail-in voting. They just can’t have it.”
How do we know how much money he has? SDNY now has the tax returns they requested relating to charges that he inflated his value when applying for loans from DeutcheBank, the ONLY bank that would give him a dime because the other big banks determined that he was a bad risk. Why did Deutsche Bank give him the money despite 4 bankruptcies to avoid paying his creditors? What was he going to give them in return? Curious minds want to know. Do you think that stealing from his charity and incurring a $2,000,000 fine is the hallmark of a good businessman? Do you think that hiring illegals at his MarLago tacky Olive Garden on steroids, and locking up children at the border at the same time was the measure of a good businessman? His own employees turned in him. And now more and more Republicans are giving it up for JB because he is an existential danger to us. We are only having this conversation as a side effect of his abysmal failure in curtailing this pandemic. Once he closed the flights from China (no, we were not first in doing so; nor were we 2nd or 3rd., his policies actually inflated the numbers so badly that we had to stay closed down way too long. Kids aren't in school because of him. Restaurants and bars aren't open because of him. I work with kids in the family court system. The courts are only online for criminal cases or for children who require immediate removal. If he had just shut up and let the professionals handle this, we wouldn't even have this thread.
get that TDS treated, Obama began locking kids in cages in 2014. Schools and businesses are closed because of their governors. Does Trump live rent free in your brain?
I was not quoting anyone. I'm sorry about the mix up. I was wondering why the administration in power doesn't do all they can to ensure the Post office performs their Constitutional obligation to provide prompt, reliable, and efficient services to patrons in all areas and to render postal services to all communities?
I agree, people receiving medications by mail should receive them, as well as all mail. Case in point, waited for my insulin, tracking said would be delivered by usps on x day. X day came and went, I was running low. 2 days later, mail lady brought it, had the gall to tell me she had it 2 days ago, just didn't feel like walking it into the clinic (I have it delivered to prevent theft that has happened before). I reported it to postmaster and I got a shrug. His answer? No one wants to work anymore, so whats he going to do? If a nurse or Dr conducted themselves in that manner (im sure a small minority may, but the majority not), the lawsuit and/or corrective action would be horrific. All govt agencies and entities should be held accountable to the public, fully transparent. There is way too much waste and mismanagement reported with 0 done
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@Hoosier_RN many of us agree that postal service could be improved. We may disagree that placing unreasonable fiscal restraints on the agency and misrepresenting the mission, as GOP legislators have done, is regimented to fix what causes concern. We will certainly disagree if you are suggesting that what is going on now is by any measure acceptable.
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@Hoosier_RN many of us agree that postal service could be improved. We may disagree that placing unreasonable fiscal restraints on the agency and misrepresenting the mission, as GOP legislators have done, is regimented to fix what causes concern. We will certainly disagree if you are suggesting that what is going on now is by any measure acceptable.
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1 hour ago, toomuchbaloney said:
@Hoosier_RN many of us agree that postal service could be improved. We may disagree that placing unreasonable fiscal restraints on the agency and misrepresenting the mission, as GOP legislators have done, is regimented to fix what causes concern. We will certainly disagree if you are suggesting that what is going on now is by any measure acceptable.
Is *recommended* to fix...
YES! Just as most healthcare workers do the best we can, sometimes some, even nurses, don't always give all we can for our patients. That does NOT mean our employers can use that as an excuse to scrimp on staffing and supplies.
I'm glad that most employees do their jobs the best they can that day (or night). And that the mail is almost always delivered on time.
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On 8/14/2020 at 2:38 PM, Daisy4RN said:
I don't think that protecting the election from fraud and trying to save tax payers from bailing out the post office (which has been mismanaged for years) is an "assault" on the post office. The post office wants 25 billion dollars, does anyone really think that is all bc of covid. We all know that Russia and other countries are trying to influence the election, plus there have already been instances of voter fraud via mail. Anyone who requests a mail in ballot can get one. The post office needs to fix its own mess, not taxpayers, IMO. That is not unamerican!
Did you know that the USPS was a profitable government service until 2006 when Bush mandated that the USPS budget had to include 75 years of pension funding along with their normal operating budget? No business in the USA that offers pensions (yes I work for a hospital system that still offers pensions) has to fund for more than 2-5 years. Did you know that more fraudulent voting is CAUGHT with mail in voting than any other kind of voting because there is a paper trail?
Did you know that if the USPS is not a funded service any longer (and the USPS has existed since BEFORE the Declaration of Independence ) then all mail delivery would be privatized? So instead of spending $0.55 to mail a letter you would have to spend $13-14 for the same service with UPS or Fedex?
Nad by the by, the President actually said he wants to suppress mail in voting.....hello, little dictatorish don’t you think?
While I of course agree with the constitution I think we also have a responsibility, as we the people, to at the same time hold gov accountable for the way our money is spent. As we all know the gov always wastes money, and mismanagement is one of those ways IMO. My local post office is a hot mess.
Yes. Let’s quit wasting money on over bloated budgets like that of the military and use it to fix roads and maintain the postal service!
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13 hours ago, LPN Retired said:
What is wrong with going to the voting station and voting as we have done in the past?
One person one vote that's the way it's supposed to be .
Yes he's right about one thing for sure . Democrats can't be trusted to be fair
It's all about cheating to steal the election any way they can .
It says you are retired, so maybe you don’t remember droplet precautions or know that we are currently facing a pandemic? But that would be the two things wrong with FORCING people to vote in person. Not to mention that due to the current pandemic poll workers are not volunteering this year because they are generally in the age range that cases of COVID is most deadly. Thus many normal polling stations will be closed and people who have no transportation may not be able to get to the next nearest polling station....or even get to vote just because the lines will be longer. How does that allow one person one vote? That seems like voter suppression to me. What’s fair about that? Mail in voting has also been done since BEFORE the Civil War...and during the Civil War....and the minor mail in voter fraud there is has proven easier to track than in person voter fraud.
You can’t trust either side, but you should want what allows MOST people to vote and be heard. This year that would be mail in voting.
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On 8/17/2020 at 1:42 PM, GordonGekko said:
So how is he "hitler-lite". Please educate me how Trump is anything like a man who is responsible for the deaths of millions? Saying he would grab a woman by her private area does not warrant this comparison. Do you think Holocaust survivors who are alive today would agree that Trump is "hitler-lite" while he fights for the nation of Israel?
Propagandists and trolls? Yeah anyone who disagrees with you is a troll. You do know half the nation voted this man in office and continue to support him. Some of us are still proud to be Americans and value hard work ethic and personal responsibility.
Just because you don't think your insensitive anti-semetic comments aren't a big deal does not mean people who actually suffered from Adolf Hitler would take great offense to your comparison. Grow up
I’m proud to be an American and I want to work hard. Trump is ‘Hitler lite’. He has committed egregious crimes against our independence as a individuals...just because they couldn’t arrest him because he is the current sitting president doesn’t mean that he was innocent! But if you don’t want to believe that here’s a few other things:
1) Grab a *** comment...is NOTHING compared to cheating on your wife with a Mediastar just a few months after she gave birth.
2) He didn’t even do the bare minimum to ASK Putin to quit paying hitmen MURDERING our MILITARY. Like just the bare minimum would have been to ask Putin to stop...formally, but nope. And a BS excuse like ‘insufficient evidence’. Do you need concrete evidence to ASK your neighbor to quit letting their dog *** in your yard?
3) The Postal Service has been serving this country since BEFORE the signing of the Declaration of Independence. They delivered mail in ballots DURING THE CIVIL WAR....but we can’t do it in the middle of a pandemic so my crazy Trump loving grandmother can vote without a significant chance of dying? What?!? Not to mention, you can’t say what a *** job your refrigerator is doing keeping your food cold IF YOU DISMANTLE IT! What, next we are going to dismantle roads and suddenly have to pay to drive from place to place? Letter mailed by USPS = 0.55, mailed by UPS to Fedex = $12. Yeah privatization is sooooo much better.....not. I’m sure all the pig farmers felt promised prices that dropped like a rock when Trump decided to get a trade war was super helpful.
So let’s see, the man has screwed over females, American farmers, the military, and now the postal service....yep sounds like a great American to me.??
I’m sorry, stuck to conservativism all you want, I’m 100% behind you for it, but Trump is NOT a conservative or a Republican. Little mini dictator wannabe does seem to describe him pretty well.
What is wrong with going to the voting station and voting as we have done in the past?
One person one vote that's the way it's supposed to be .
Yes he's right about one thing for sure . Democrats can't be trusted to be fair
It's all about cheating to steal the election any way they can .
With respect to voting in person vs mail-in, a poster made this comment in another thread - “Not me. I'm on disability due to a heart condition, so its just too risky for me. I'm staying home, avoiding contact with other people. Just tryIng to,keep myself from getting sick.”. That was you. While that was talking about working as a nurse, you got the basic premise correct.
Your second point actually makes no sense outside of a vitriolic partisan rant.
It says you are retired, so maybe you don’t remember droplet precautions or know that we are currently facing a pandemic?
People are out at the grocery, library, restaurants, etc. Some who are even making the same argument. No one wants to cancel mail in or absentee ballots- I use said method because of work, as does Mr Hoosier. Some politicians were suggesting ALL polling be done by mail. I see a fiasco with that, even in the best of circumstances.
In my area, polling locations have more volunteers than ever (on both sides!), as more are wanting to be involved in the political process. We have also seen an increase in volunteers to drive voters to polling places. This may be just local to my area.
My point being is that the options are there, no one can stop anyone from mailing in their ballot, as well as from attending in person polling, and shouldn't, as long as all are run fairly and by using common sense precautions
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On 8/14/2020 at 2:38 PM, Daisy4RN said:
I don't think that protecting the election from fraud and trying to save tax payers from bailing out the post office (which has been mismanaged for years) is an "assault" on the post office. The post office wants 25 billion dollars, does anyone really think that is all bc of covid. We all know that Russia and other countries are trying to influence the election, plus there have already been instances of voter fraud via mail. Anyone who requests a mail in ballot can get one. The post office needs to fix its own mess, not taxpayers, IMO. That is not unamerican!
There is zero evidence of vote tampering via mail and Trump keeps insisting his election was valid. He/you can't have it both ways.
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get that TDS treated, Obama began locking kids in cages in 2014. Schools and businesses are closed because of their governors. Does Trump live rent free in your brain?