Trump’s assault on Postal Service and voting is a plot against American democracy

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Voter suppression is UnAmerican and can not be tolerated. Majority Vets get their meds shipped via USPS -60,000/day

Philadelphia Inquirer 8/14/2020

Trump’s assault on Postal Service and voting is a plot against American democracy | Editorial

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On Thursday morning, after months of attacks on the United States Postal Service and vote-by-mail, President Donald Trump admitted that the two efforts are connected as a part of one voter disenfranchisement effort. In a Fox Business Network interview, Trump said that the sticking point for him in the negotiations over a new coronavirus economic relief package is Post Office funding: “If we don’t make a deal, that means they don’t get the money. That means they can’t have universal mail-in voting. They just can’t have it.”

https://www.inquirer.com/opinion/editorials/trump-usps-pennsylvania-mail-voting-deadlines-lawsuit-20200814.html

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3 hours ago, DaveMHA-RN said:

Mail in voting = voter suppression.

Please explain.

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5 hours ago, DaveMHA-RN said:

Spot on! Mail in voting = voter suppression. The democrats are already calling for Biden not to not to cede defeat after he loses the election. They are threatening to tie it up in the courts. This tells me they know the polls showing Biden in the lead are false, just as the polls that showed Clinton in the lead were false. The Dems are trying to find away for Biden to get out of having to debate Trump because they know Trump will hand Biden his butt and lay him bare as the demented buffoon and bully that he is. 

Sure.

Republicans have been suppressing votes for years apparently, using your logic that mailed ballots=suppression.

What do you make of the fact that the actual president cannot say that he will accept election results, insists that the election is rigged (again) and has suggested both postponing the election and putting police at polling places? All of that from the actual crazy person in the white house and you're worried about someone with zero power or control?

Holy hell that's some off center priority of concern right there...IMHO

I'll guarantee that the founder's concerns about the republic weren't related to whether or not a political candidate for the presidency might not cede a loss...they were concerned whether the sitting president would cede the loss and relinquish power.

 

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This election is about decency vs. debauchery.  Since I have to work on election day, mail-in (or drop-off) voting all that's available to me and I'll bet there are tens of millions of people in the same situation.  In-person voting doesn't work when half the polling places are closed in cities.  Voting will be much easier in rural areas at sites that aren't that busy anyway so if they only have a few workers it's no sweat off the voters backs..  https://www.nationalreview.com/2020/04/wisconsin-election-milwaukee-did-not-have-enough-polling-places/

Milwaukee only had 5 out of 180 polling places open during their primaries this year.

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6 hours ago, DaveMHA-RN said:

Mail in voting = voter suppression

Correction: 

Mail in voting is a way to submit an election vote for citizens unable to go to polling location day of election. It encourages citizens to vote.

Absentee and Early Voting: https://www.usa.gov/absentee-voting

Voter suppression

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is a strategy used to influence the outcome of an election by discouraging or preventing specific groups of people from voting.

The tactics of voter suppression range from minor changes to make voting less convenient, to physically intimidating and even physically attacking prospective voters, which is illegal. Voter suppression can be effective if a significant number of voters are intimidated or disenfranchised

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Voter_suppression

Trumps own statements ARE voter suppression:

 

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More Mail in Voting mischief....

Jocelyn Benson is Michigan Secretary of State informing public re FALSE robocall statement  in Detroit Michigan area targeting voters that if they use Vote by Mail, government will have their name in a database and be used by police to track down outstanding warrants, used by credit card companies to obtain outstanding debts and mandatory vaccines.etc.

FYI:  VOTERS are already in a state Voting Registration database as in the US one needs to sign up to be a voter.  ALL voting ballots: in-person voting, mail returned to election office --whether by absentee ( reason why unable vote in person)/ mail in ballot (no reason needed)  are compared to local/state election database that name and signature match.

Name/address can be obtained just from drivers license/ state licenses issued for barber, physician, funeral director, nurse, etc. which are available for sale as considered public information.

 

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24 minutes ago, NRSKarenRN said:

More Mail in Voting mischief....

Jocelyn Benson is Michigan Secretary of State informing public re FALSE robocall statement  in Detroit Michigan area targeting voters that if they use Vote by Mail, government will have their name in a database and be used by police to track down outstanding warrants, used by credit card companies to obtain outstanding debts and mandatory vaccines.etc.

FYI:  VOTERS are already in a state Voting Registration database as in the US one needs to sign up to be a voter.  ALL voting ballots: in-person voting, mail returned to election office --whether by absentee ( reason why unable vote in person)/ mail in ballot (no reason needed)  are compared to local/state election database that name and signature match.

Name/address can be obtained just from drivers license/ state issues licenses issued for barber, physician, funeral director, nurse which are available for sale as considered public information.

 

Welcome to Trumplandia.  This is the dishonest agenda of Trumpublicans across the nation. 

"If Nancy Pelosi can get her hair done in person - you can vote in person. Pass it on."

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17 minutes ago, FNP2B1 said:

"If Nancy Pelosi can get her hair done in person - you can vote in person. Pass it on."

One does not follow the other. If you are trying for a syllogism, you are a proposition short.

Scary:

You can't analyze research, you can't identify reliable websites and you don't search for primary sources.

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8 minutes ago, FNP2B1 said:

You also know nothing about the business I run.  Stating that you do proves your ignorance.

I didn't.

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Postal Service audit finds gaps in timely processing and delivery of election mail
By Hannah Denham

https://www.washingtonpost.com/business/2020/09/01/postal-service-audit-election-mail/

Can we have confidence in the people running the show?

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For a couple weeks I have been receiving 2 mail deliveries per day. One is packages alone, another first class mail (sometimes as late as 7 PM). I was on the porch when the first class mail person came. I asked her about the 2 deliveries. She said, when she leaves the post office the packages aren't sorted so after they are sorted they are delivered by someone else. In the past my mail person delivered both, promptly at 11:30 AM each day. Seems like a lot of work to send out 2 people to do the same route.

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