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Cali yes economic status is definitely the one i seen but it's usually connected to something more than that. Behavior towards staff, nelect, drug use etc. Places i have worked also had a fair number of suspected or known gang members which got a lot of negativity.

I was referring to a certain type of behavior when I used the phrase "economic status".

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Song in my Heart indicated that she is a recovering bigot...

I think we are all recovering bigots at some level. We live in a nation that was built on bigoted and racist principles, we practiced a form a genocide with the Native Americans, we fought to protect the right to own human slaves as property. These societal attitudes, belief systems, and institutional biases do not go away in a decade or even in one person's lifetime, AEB the health of the KKK to this day.

As individuals we grow and evolve past that unenlightened type of thinking, but society is made of many many individuals with closeted fears and beliefs as well as newly found tolerance.

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I'm a very straight male...

Not just a straight male, but a VERY straight male. Impressive.

What's the difference?

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I have a cousin who is Gay, you should hear the trash talk from him against Christians. My point being, not everyone will approve of us and our dearly held beliefs.

I've found it to be the people who are the most intolerant are the ones who preach tolerance. They believe in tolerance as long as people are expressing THEIR point of views.

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For what it's worth, I see a big difference between "tolerance" and "acceptance."

Tolerance means merely that I won't seek to push you out of the group; acceptance means that I welcome you into the group.

Bigots can be tolerant while remaining unaccepting.

Tolerance is the bare minimum to be demanded but is hardly worth celebrating.

"I am he as you are he as you are me and we are all together"

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For what it's worth, I see a big difference between "tolerance" and "acceptance."

I was going to comment that because I see the word being used a lot in the thread, even in the OP.

Frankly, as a gay person, I would rather someone flat out say they don't like gay people than saying they are 'tolerant' of gay people. Someone saying they 'tolerate' gay people is like them saying, "I don't really like gay people, but I'm going to say I'm tolerant so it sounds like I'm not a homophobe." At least someone who simply says they don't support gay people isn't trying to hide behind a guise of political correctness.

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PacoUSA has 8 years experience as a BSN, RN and specializes in PCU / Telemetry.

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I recently had a patient who was a direct admit from another hospital. I don't know how he got this information but at the end of his report to me before he left, one of the paramedics that transported the patient made it a point to tell me (in a low hush tone) that the patient was a "M" (a vulgar Spanish term for gay male). He thereafter proceeded to explain to me how he had no problem with that and that he had recently had some cultural competence training on caring for these kind of patients ... so I guess he just wanted to boast about the fact that he took care of a gay patient and that he didn't treat him any differently? Yet at the end of the day you end up telling me that he is not gay, not a homosexual, but a "M"? I was kind of at a loss for words on the whole thing and just let him go. Turns out, the patient being gay had NO RELEVANCE with his diagnosis or reason for hospitalization!

But I must say, the patient was a real pleasure to care for and he was discharged a few days after my 3 nights with him. When I came back to work, I had a message of thanks from him waiting for me. That is all that really matters to me - that I was a good nurse to someone, gay or not gay.

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PacoUSA has 8 years experience as a BSN, RN and specializes in PCU / Telemetry.

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Not just a straight male, but a VERY straight male. Impressive.

What's the difference?

I'm glad I'm not the only one that thought this assertion was a tad excessive. I'm interested to know the difference as well :)

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akulahawkRN has 5 years experience as a ADN, RN, EMT-P and specializes in Emergency Department.

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Not just a straight male, but a VERY straight male. Impressive.

What's the difference?

Get me drunk and I'm still straight... ;) I'm actually quite conservative in some ways. Just looking at the "cover" and not the "book", "very straight" is very much how others perceive me and it's not until you get to know me a little that I'm not anti-homosexual at all. I do accept people for who they are, regardless of their sexual orientation or gender identity.

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I actually have never seen it in the workplace. For my beliefs...love is love. It is rare and very hard to find. My cousin finally married her partner of 20 years and I have never been so happy.

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Setting aside the specific case of akulahawk, who I know only though interactions on this site, and who seems to be quite a fine human being, I perceive the term "very straight" to conceal a bias... it's an aggrandizement of certain brands of manliness... the rugged individualist, the macho tough guy, the 'tough-as-nails' Drill Instructor type, the Marlboro man (before he wasted away with lung cancer)... the quintessential alpha male.

The bias is the linkage of those cultural personas with sexual orientation... as though to be badass, Chuck Norris type, means that one is also straight... that gays can't be tough guys, manly men, firefighters, bouncers, etc.

This is the kind of bias that I recognized in myself awhile back.

Gay and straight are binary, mutually exclusive conditions. People who flaunt their sexuality, or who manifest certain traits or characteristics that our culture considers to typify manliness or womanliness, are no more or less gay/straight than those whose orientation is externally ambiguous.

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Not just a straight male, but a VERY straight male. Impressive.

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Just watched a segment of Dr. Phil featuring a man who reportedly has slept with more than 300 women as opposed to the usual average of 7 for the male adult. However, Dr. Phil treated this guest as not well, an opinion that the guest agreed with. I would call 300 women to fall into the VERY straight category; if that is the impression one is trying to convey.

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