do you think students who got kicked out of NS, were for a good reason?

SmilingBluEyes · May 27, 2017

Yep---- all the ones who were removed, the school had ample and good reason. It was sad to see some of them fail, but the attrition rates were well-known going in, and the director was crystal clear on what was expected and---- how hard it would be from the very first day we started---- in her welcome speech to us.

Skippy97 · May 27, 2017

Yep---- all the ones who were removed, the school had ample and good reason. It was sad to see some of them fail, but the attrition rates were well-known going in, and the director was crystal clear on what was expected and how hard it would be from the very first day we started in her welcome speech to us.

Yes I agree because a lot of times, I here stories and you are hearing one side of it so it's hard to think this person is totally wrong. But the schools all clearly state for example a minimum grade point average, and people who fail for that reason shouldn't be surprised, because it is stated early on before the program begins.

SmilingBluEyes · May 27, 2017

It's based on what I know. Do I know every detail? Clearly, not, as it was not my business to know. But knowing how they performed (it was obvious), and what their grades were (they were known because these people who failed were trying to get into study groups, and when they did, contributing NOTHING, wanting us to do their work for them, etc------, I can confidently say, that it was not their time to become an RN. Maybe later, with more maturity, time or in another program, they could succeed.

Sour Lemon · May 28, 2017

I don't know many specific reasons why students got dismissed, but there were future failures obvious within the first few weeks of class. They were typically students with many personal problems, an argumentative nature and no sense of personal responsibility.

RNperdiem, RN · May 28, 2017

An inappropriate romantic relationship with a patient during the psych rotation is what the word on the street was for the one student I do know of who was kicked out. Seems logical enough; we were taught nursing ethics early, so she had to have known.

HermioneG, BSN, RN · May 28, 2017

I know of one person who was dismissed for academic performance issues. Not to be judgmental, but I was kind of relieved to see them go. My first memory of them was when we both came early to our first day of orientation and we were doing the usual meet and greet chat. They said the only reason why they were going to nursing school was because they needed a degree for medical school, and that they had zero interest in nursing. Then, later on in the quarter, they told me that they had forged their clinical instructor's signature on paperwork. Other than that person, I haven't heard of anyone being dismissed. Only leaving on their own accord.

blondy2061h, MSN, RN · May 28, 2017

I can't remember who got kicked out of my program and why because it was a decade ago.

ArtClassRN, ADN, RN · May 28, 2017

Yes to all those.

purplegal · May 28, 2017

I hate to be mean, but I know a couple of girls who never made it through nursing school, and it seems like it's for the best. At least, for now.

They continuously made low grades, and instead of finding ways to improve it themselves, they basically asked other people to do as much of their work for them. For awhile, after I had graduated nursing school, they would ask me to "help them with a few questions." Well, what happened is that they would send me entire assignments and want my help on every single question. Of course, I never did that, but it sure did annoy me, since I passed nursing school the right way--on my own, and only asking for helping when I really needed it and only after I had attempted to find a solution myself. These girls were also chronically absent, and were always asking for exceptions for their excuses. They also had a tendency to refer to the teachers as mean, just because they held them to the same high standards they did with every other student. I remember when I was applying for nursing jobs, they would always tell me to go after the "easy" jobs. This does not sound like someone who should be in the nursing program, someone who is looking for things to be easy.

Now, these girls do have some wonderful attributes. They are very caring, and good with patients. However, their lack of motivation and unwillingness to help themselves suggest to me that nursing is not right for them at this time. Perhaps if they can develop some good study habits and work ethic they may someday be good nurses.

I will say that I had to retake my second semester and that was my own fault. I simply was not comprehending the material the way I needed to, and was not making the grades. However, it turned out for the best because the next semester I did MUCH better. It also helped me develop the study methods I needed to pass my later semesters.

Cowboyardee · May 28, 2017

At the school I went to not many people got "kicked out." However, if you scored below a C (76%) in any class, you not only had to repeat the semester but also lost out on the financial deal that most students had agreed upon when entering the school - it was a diploma program that was effectively free if you agreed to work for the associated hospital system a couple years after graduation and didn't fail any classes.

So I saw a decent number of people drop out of the program for financial reasons after failing a class. This was more or less fair, as it was the deal we entered into.

On the other hand, when the school re-wrote all of our tests to be harder (and often poorly constructed/incorrect) midway through the 300 level classes because they realized they had more students left than spots available in our final practicum... that was BS.

Not all nursing students deserve to get through school. But on the other hand, nursing schools ain't exactly altruistic organizations.

WKShadowNP, DNP, APRN · May 28, 2017

I will say that I had to retake my second semester and that was my own fault. I simply was not comprehending the material the way I needed to, and was not making the grades. However, it turned out for the best because the next semester I did MUCH better. It also helped me develop the study methods I needed to pass my later semesters.

I can relate. Any deficits in grades were due to my own shortcomings or lack of applying myself for various reasons. But I take ownership of that, picked myself up and tried again. While I had to repeat a course I was not kicked out, which implies dismissal for reasons other than poor academic performance.