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I confess to back pedaling into Trump territory when I wanted to leave discussions about him in the garbage can.  My thread on the read-only break room site has 9,600 replies so I thought I'd bring up a new one.  

He's not going away.

Haberman's book is out based on interviews.  I won't read it, but the excerpts are interesting.  Especially what he says about McConnell, a description that's against the Terms of Service here, but I actually don't disagree with.  LOL

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“At one point, Trump made a candid admission that was as jarring as it was ultimately unsurprising. ‘The question I get asked more than any other question: “If you had it to do again, would you have done it?”’Trump said of running for president. ‘The answer is, yeah, I think so. Because here’s the way I look at it. I have so many rich friends and nobody knows who they are.’ … Reflecting on the meaning of having been president of the United States, his first impulse was not to mention public service, or what he felt he’d accomplished, only that it appeared to be a vehicle for fame, and that many experiences were only worth having if someone else envied them.”

https://www.politico.com/newsletters/playbook/2022/09/25/trump-dishes-to-his-psychiatrist-00058732

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https://chicago.suntimes.com/nation-world/2024/05/11/trump-tower-chicago-tax-breaks-audit

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Former President Donald Trump could be hit with a bill of more than $100 million for claiming improper tax breaks on his namesake tower along the Chicago River, according to a report co-published Saturday by ProPublica and the New York Times.

In a yearslong audit battle, the Internal Revenue Service has argued Trump effectively wrote off the same massive losses twice on the Trump International Hotel and Tower at 401 N. Wabash Ave., ProPublica and the Times found.

There seems to be the appearance of corruption and dishonesty associated with Trump.  

toomuchbaloney said:

https://chicago.suntimes.com/nation-world/2024/05/11/trump-tower-chicago-tax-breaks-audit

There seems to be the appearance of corruption and dishonesty associated with Trump.  

All there is to this story so far is that the IRS concluded their investigation.

The NYT saw it as a opportunity to titillate is readers by reporting that he "could be" fined.

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Crusades said:

So I'm not sure if "Team Trump" feels like they suffered a loss at least in those 2 cases. 

Team Trump had to spend a boatload of money to avoid those losses. That's OK though, cuz granny and gramps MAGA can keep sending in their retirement to pay for the lawyers. Up until the lawyers quit. 

nursej22 said:

Team Trump had to spend a boatload of money to avoid those losses. That's OK though, cuz granny and gramps MAGA can keep sending in their retirement to pay for the lawyers. Up until the lawyers quit. 

You love the bankrupt Trump strategy,  don't you?

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Shucks, found out about rally just 2 hrs from me; Wildwood was our vacation spot when kids young--but had aide supervision visit scheduled time of rally.  Listened to it for 1 hour while driving to client visit -amount lies staggering.  He was expected to speak at 5:PM but didn't start until ~ 6:30 by my watch.

Nearly 100,000 people pack Wildwood beach for Donald Trump rally

"Instead of a Biden tax hike, I'll give you a Trump middle class, upper class, lower class, business class big tax cut. You're going to have the biggest tax cut," Trump stated.

He's surrendering our college campuses to anarchists, jihadist freaks and anti-American extremists who are trying to tear down our American flag. They want to tear down every single place they go," Trump said, before calling on Biden and the Democratic National Committee, "to return the donations of all antisemites, American haters, and financiers of chaos on our campuses."  "Joe has raised more money than me so can give back " I heard.   He had several vulgar references during speech.

Listen here

Philly Inquirer report

In Wildwood, Donald Trump makes false claim about Penn protests, blasts Chris Christie and Larry Krasner

Trump claimed Univ of Penn had riots.  I saw clients in Philly past 2 weeks driving thru PENN campus 5x - no rioting, just protestors + encampment in ONE area of campus which got dismantled Friday AM. Afterwards,  one international student found locked out of her dorm + PENN access card disabled.   Well, when asked to dismantle tents past 2 weeks and didn't  leave, learned a lesson re consequences of ones action.

Late great Hannibal Lector comments

https://www.threads.net/@gtconway3/post/C63wkgWs3M-

He spoke for about 90 minutes but no wonder crowd started to leave after 45 min, about time I had to stop listening as garbage.

 

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Beerman said:

You love the bankrupt Trump strategy,  don't you?

No, I hate that it seems to be the only way to keep him from power. Justice delayed is justice denied. 

What I would have loved would be if Trump would have accepted his election defeat, and retired quietly to Mar-a-Lago. He chose to file multiple suits questioning the election results. He chose to pressure the Georgia Secretary of State to "find votes", he chose to create false slates of electors, he chose to  gather his supporters in Washington, DC and told them to go to the Capitol and fight like hell. He chose to watch the Jan 6 rioters for hours, before calling them off. He chose to take classified documents and refused to return them. He files motions, appeals, suits, ad nauseam , running up legal bills. He could have kept his yap shut and not defamed E. Jean Carole. 

If he is bankrupt, he brought it on. 

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nursej22 said:

No, I hate that it seems to be the only way to keep him from power. Justice delayed is justice denied. 

What I would have loved would be if Trump would have accepted his election defeat, and retired quietly to Mar-a-Lago. He chose to file multiple suits questioning the election results. He chose to pressure the Georgia Secretary of State to "find votes", he chose to create false slates of electors, he chose to  gather his supporters in Washington, DC and told them to go to the Capitol and fight like hell. He chose to watch the Jan 6 rioters for hours, before calling them off. He chose to take classified documents and refused to return them. He files motions, appeals, suits, ad nauseam , running up legal bills. He could have kept his yap shut and not defamed E. Jean Carole. 

If he is bankrupt, he brought it on. 

Of course you forgot that he also said "peacfully and patriotically make your voices heard"!!

Perhaps if some stopped blatantly misrepresenting what he says and does and discussed his policies, some may not support him based on this. 

However that's point isn't it? 

I wonder why it is that left finds it so important to leave somethings out?? 

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Crusades said:

Of course you forgot that he also said "peacfully and patriotically make your voices heard"!!

Perhaps if some stopped blatantly misrepresenting what he says and does and discussed his policies, some may not support him based on this. 

However that's point isn't it? 

I wonder why it is that left finds it so important to leave somethings out? 

That little part about peaceful and patriotically didn't seem to influence Trump's adoring crowd that day, did it? They missed that sentiment, must be... for hours.  And Trump didn't try to correct their confusion, either... how odd, eh? 

We are discussing Trump's policies.  His policy was to withhold military aid from Ukraine in return for personal political dirt on his opponent, his foreign policy is corrupt.  Trump's policy was to lie about our healthcare amid the worst public health crisis of your lifetime, that policy was corrupt. Trump's border policy was to inflame his cult and use child cruelty to discourage families from migrating. He lost children in his corrupt and dishonest mismanagement of that.  We do discuss Trump's policy to lie about anything and everything.  

Funny that you project that crap about leaving things out while leaving lots of stuff out about Trump's efforts to change the 2020 election results and the events of 010621.  Well, not really funny.  Just the typical stuff from a deeply misguided supporter of the worst president in your lifetime who will harm this government.  

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toomuchbaloney said:

That little part about peaceful and patriotically didn't seem to influence Trump's adoring crowd that day, did it? They missed that sentiment, must be... for hours.  And Trump didn't try to correct their confusion, either... how odd, eh? 

We are discussing Trump's policies.  His policy was to withhold military aid from Ukraine in return for personal political dirt on his opponent, his foreign policy is corrupt.  Trump's policy was to lie about our healthcare amid the worst public health crisis of your lifetime, that policy was corrupt. Trump's border policy was to inflame his cult and use child cruelty to discourage families from migrating. He lost children in his corrupt and dishonest mismanagement of that.  We do discuss Trump's policy to lie about anything and everything.  

Funny that you project that crap about leaving things out while leaving lots of stuff out about Trump's efforts to change the 2020 election results and the events of 010621.  Well, not really funny.  Just the typical stuff from a deeply misguided supporter of the worst president in your lifetime who will harm this government.  

Oh how odd it use to be as long as it isn't illegal speech it was free speech.  And the speaker wasn't held to account how others interpreted it. By that standard every holly scripture would be banned wouldn't it? 

The point was it is a habit to mention "fight like hell" in absence of "peacfully and patriotically make your voices heard". Or when he told them all to go home and respect law enforcement.  

Or when he condemed neo nazis and white supremist. 

Do you wish to discuss all the democrats inciting violence? 

Cruelty to children? By not allowing child sex traffickers in the country claiming to be migrants? Or separating them from people claiming to be their parents? What happens to children when a US citizen if caught committing a crime? With the child there? Or can't provide documentation that the child belongs to them? They are seperated!! 

Same at the border. Or should we just believe them because they are "brown" and don't want to sound racist? 

Right. He didn't believe the election was valid and tried to challenge it in court. He told his supporters it was rigged. 

It wasn't like he ordered the military to stand on gaurd and baracaided himself in the white house. Pleeease.  

It's that ridiculous narrative that will win him the presidency.  If that's "dangerous" blame it on the democrats. Also thank them for new precedents and new way of combating their political opponents . 

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Crusades said:

Oh how odd it use to be as long as it isn't illegal speech it was free speech.  And the speaker wasn't held to account how others interpreted it. By that standard every holly scripture would be banned wouldn't it? 

The point was it is a habit to mention "fight like hell" in absence of "peacfully and patriotically make your voices heard". Or when he told them all to go home and respect law enforcement.  

Or when he condemed neo nazis and white supremist. 

Do you wish to discuss all the democrats inciting violence? 

Cruelty to children? By not allowing child sex traffickers in the country claiming to be migrants? Or separating them from people claiming to be their parents? What happens to children when a US citizen if caught committing a crime? With the child there? Or can't provide documentation that the child belongs to them? They are seperated!! 

Same at the border. Or should we just believe them because they are "brown" and don't want to sound racist? 

Right. He didn't believe the election was valid and tried to challenge it in court. He told his supporters it was rigged. 

It wasn't like he ordered the military to stand on gaurd and baracaided himself in the white house. Pleeease.  

It's that ridiculous narrative that will win him the presidency.  If that's "dangerous" blame it on the democrats. Also thank them for new precedents and new way of combating their political opponents . 

Freedom of speech =\= freedom from consequences.

Try again.

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