I confess to back pedaling into Trump territory when I wanted to leave discussions about him in the garbage can. My thread on the read-only break room site has 9,600 replies so I thought I'd bring up a new one.
He's not going away.
Haberman's book is out based on interviews. I won't read it, but the excerpts are interesting. Especially what he says about McConnell, a description that's against the Terms of Service here, but I actually don't disagree with. LOL
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“At one point, Trump made a candid admission that was as jarring as it was ultimately unsurprising. ‘The question I get asked more than any other question: “If you had it to do again, would you have done it?”’Trump said of running for president. ‘The answer is, yeah, I think so. Because here’s the way I look at it. I have so many rich friends and nobody knows who they are.’ … Reflecting on the meaning of having been president of the United States, his first impulse was not to mention public service, or what he felt he’d accomplished, only that it appeared to be a vehicle for fame, and that many experiences were only worth having if someone else envied them.”
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Beerman said:
Seems like very light punishment for the accusations.
Must not be a very strong case.
Maybe, seems odd that she would plead guilty if the case against her was weak. Or, maybe she made a nice deal for herself because she was part of the planning and has critical information. We are about to find out as that first trial is getting ready to choose their jury and start presenting evidence.
Prosecutors will be working hard to get the jury established within the deadline. The defense counsel will be working hard to drag the process out beyond the deadline.
I listen to a podcast with 2 former federal prosecutors (and law profs), and 2 other lawyers, @sistersinlaw.podcast. They have stated several times, that typically, when there are several defendants, the ones who plead guilty earliest get the best deals. The first one, Scott Graham Hall, got 5 years of probation, has to write a letter of apology, and agreed to testify. Now Powell is getting 6 years probation and a fine, and will testify.
I think they are letting her off because they are after bigger fish.
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Beerman said:
Perhaps.
But, getting a misdemeanor charge and small fine seems like a much better option vs a lengthy trial and paying lawyers tens of thousands of dollars.
Our democracy is in peril. Why are they letting her off so easily?
Yes, Powell created a much better option for herself by negotiating a deal. That implies that she has agreed to fully cooperate in the prosecution of the larger case against Trump. Given the influence that Trump has in our society and culture, I suspect there will be no "easy" for the disgraced lawyer in the coming months.
...As part of her plea deal, Powell gave prosecutors a recorded statement on Wednesday in which she admitted her role in the January 2021 breach of election systems in rural Coffee County, where she accessed and copied information from the election system with the help of local GOP officials in an attempt to prove the election was rigged.
...Sidney Powell, a former attorney for Donald Trump, pleaded guilty Thursday morning in a sweeping racketeering case and will testify against the former president on charges that he attempted to overturn the 2020 presidential election result in Georgia
Powell also agreed in the recorded statement to testify against any of the remaining defendants and to hand over any documents in her possession related to the case....
I mean there were 19 defendants charged, including Eastman, Clark, Giuliani, Meadows, and yes, Trump. These were men who were able to influence the upper levels of government. They tried to overthrow a peacefully election. That should have consequences. Trump is perfectly capable of pleading guilty at anytime and perhaps he can get one of those sweet sentences.
Kenneth Chesebro, a former lawyer for Donald Trump's campaign, pleaded guilty Friday to illegally conspiring to overturn Trump's 2020 election loss in Georgia. The plea came in just hours after jury selection began in the highly anticipated case, ahead of an expected trial next month.
Chesebro pleaded guilty to a single felony count of conspiracy to file false documents, and faces a prison sentence of one to five years. He also agreed to truthfully testify in the case against others.
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I suspect as they come closer to their trial dates others will accept deals as well, with the expected stipulation to truthfully testify in all future trials.
Whether any of them have knowledge of what Mr. Trump's involvement is remains to be seen.
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chare said:
I suspect as they come closer to their trial dates others will accept deals as well, with the expected stipulation to truthfully testify in all future trials.
Whether any of them have knowledge of what Mr. Trump's involvement is remains to be seen.
Yes. I think everyone expects that the number of defendants in that Georgia case will decrease significantly as the trial date approaches. That was the legal discussion when the indictment was publicized.
Correct, what Powell and Chesebro know about the ring leader's actions or attitudes is a mystery for now. However, Chesebro was unable to protect his emails and other communications with republicans across the country as he schemed to overthrow the 2020 election on behalf of Trump, so we will know much more than we know now. Giuliani is worried, I bet.
It will be interesting to see how much electoral support Trump can maintain in the 2024 GOP primary as the facts and details of these crimes are publicized.
It will be interesting to see how much electoral support Trump can maintain in the 2024 GOP primary as the facts and details of these crimes are publicized.
Well, considering fox news, breitbart, etc are not covering the trials at all, I would expect little to no impact unless a conviction occurs. Assuming they report that....
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Being willing to testify against Trump will bring death threats that seems light serious punishment.