I confess to back pedaling into Trump territory when I wanted to leave discussions about him in the garbage can. My thread on the read-only break room site has 9,600 replies so I thought I'd bring up a new one.
He's not going away.
Haberman's book is out based on interviews. I won't read it, but the excerpts are interesting. Especially what he says about McConnell, a description that's against the Terms of Service here, but I actually don't disagree with. LOL
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“At one point, Trump made a candid admission that was as jarring as it was ultimately unsurprising. ‘The question I get asked more than any other question: “If you had it to do again, would you have done it?”’Trump said of running for president. ‘The answer is, yeah, I think so. Because here’s the way I look at it. I have so many rich friends and nobody knows who they are.’ … Reflecting on the meaning of having been president of the United States, his first impulse was not to mention public service, or what he felt he’d accomplished, only that it appeared to be a vehicle for fame, and that many experiences were only worth having if someone else envied them.”
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Licensure is a state function, not federal. Therefore, just like nurses must follow nursing laws to maintain an active license and when violations of nursing law brought to board of nursing attention and confirmed in violation, action taken in state courts.
So, Donald Trumps alleged violations of NY state business laws regarding his business license case is being held in NY state court.
Licensure is a state function, not federal. Therefore, just like nurses must follow nursing laws to maintain an active license and when violations of nursing law brought to board of nursing attention and confirmed in violation, action taken in state courts.
So, Donald Trumps alleged violations of NY state business laws regarding his business license case is being held in NY state court.
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Oh, OK. Do you have any examples of the NY AG filing a civil case against a nurse who inflicted no harm on anyone?
Better yet, any examples of the AG filing a similar case to Trump's against any other individual? I'm sure those must be easy to find.
Trump has been doing business in NY for decades. I wonder why the state is just now going after him? I also wonder why NY prosecutors who reviewed this case decided not to file criminal charges?
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Beerman said:
Oh, OK. Do you have any examples of the NY AG filing a civil case against a nurse who inflicted no harm on anyone?
Better yet, any examples of the AG filing a similar case to Trump's against any other individual? I'm sure those must be easy to find.
Trump has been doing business in NY for decades. I wonder why the state is just now going after him? I also wonder why NY prosecutors who reviewed this case decided not to file criminal charges?
None of those questions presume that Trump wasn't lying and cheating, only that it's somehow corrupt to hold him accountable for lying and cheating.
How interesting. I wonder if Trump will use that defense this week in court, he was trying some of it out with the media. What do you think that Trump meant when he said about the AG that "you should go after her"?
Maybe for decades Trump was on the up and up. He had very high incomes and was quite successful. Maybe money and power eventually made his cocky and corrupt with a complex of invincibility.
Is Trump the only business they have ever gone after? Is the narrative "let's conduct a witch hunt to stop him from becoming President" going to be effective if there's nothing there and things are just made up?
I want people held accountable for wrongdoing regardless of timing. Again, like any adult that would say "I look forward to proving my innocence in a court of law" he plays the victim and convinces Americans the legal system around the country has decided to go after him. Just like the democratic system intact for hundreds of years in many states have decided to rig the election.
Maybe for decades Trump was on the up and up. He had very high incomes and was quite successful. Maybe money and power eventually made his cocky and corrupt with a complex of invincibility.
And maybe I'm a buff young butch with a pickup truck and a trust fund.
That wasn't your question, but it seems a little moot to me.
The more importat point for Trump supporters seems to be that people hate Trump and he's being singled out for accountability, not that he broke laws and investigations and prosecutions flow from that evidence of law breaking. It's interesting to watch this dangerous social phenomenon build and play out.
Trump learned from the Russia hoax claims that he only needed to convince his followers that the FBIs interest in all of those contacts between Russians and the Trump campaign was persecution rather than patriotic duty. Like then, Trump is confident now that most people who would vote for him will not read the relevant information, they will accept the deflections and denials without much difficulty because they ignore or dismiss anything that doesn't fit that pro-Trump narrative.
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heron said:
And maybe I'm a buff young butch with a pickup truck and a trust fund.
Maybe.
In the instance of Trump we can easily guess that Tweety was using some sarcasm because we all know that Tweety knows that Trump is well known for a colorful history involement in thousands of lawsuits inspired by his shady business practices. The only thing that's changed is how much attention Trump has drawn to himself and his business practices.
Yes, I got tweety's sarcasm and added a bit of my own in agreement.
Since we're asking questions, here's mine:
All prosecutors, from the US Attorney general on down are tasked with speaking for the "people" which includes the financial marketplace. Is it the magadonian position that persistent patterns of financial fraud over decades do not damage that marketplace?
Is "fake it till you make it" really an acceptable business practice for capitalists?
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"What can I add that has not already been said?” Kelly said, when asked if he wanted to weigh in on his former boss in light of recent comments made by other former Trump officials. "A person that thinks those who defend their country in uniform, or are shot down or seriously wounded in combat, or spend years being tortured as POWs are all 'suckers' because 'there is nothing in it for them.’ A person that did not want to be seen in the presence of military amputees because 'it doesn't look good for me.’ A person who demonstrated open contempt for a Gold Star family – for all Gold Star families – on TV during the 2016 campaign, and rants that our most precious heroes who gave their lives in America's defense are 'losers' and wouldn't visit their graves in France.
"A person who is not truthful regarding his position on the protection of unborn life, on women, on minorities, on evangelical Christians, on Jews, on working men and women,” Kelly continued. "A person that has no idea what America stands for and has no idea what America is all about. A person who cavalierly suggests that a selfless warrior who has served his country for 40 years in peacetime and war should lose his life for treason – in expectation that someone will take action. A person who admires autocrats and murderous dictators. A person that has nothing but contempt for our democratic institutions, our Constitution, and the rule of law.
"There is nothing more that can be said,” Kelly concluded. "God help us.”
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"...in expectation that someone will take action" according to the assessment of Trump's longest serving Chief of Staff, General John Kelly.
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No other presidential candidate in history has had so many detractors from his inner circle. His former secretary of defense, Mark Esper, t7thold CNN in November 2022, "I think he's unfit for office. ... He puts himself before country. His actions are all about him and not about the country. And then, of course, I believe he has integrity and character issues as well.”
All prosecutors, from the US Attorney general on down are tasked with speaking for the "people" which includes the financial marketplace. Is it the magadonian position that persistent patterns of financial fraud over decades do not damage that marketplace?
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Beerman said:
Why wasn't he charged criminally?
Because of the way the laws are written? Why does this specific nuance of lawless behavior matter so much to you? The very serious criminal charges against Trump are also widely dismissed by Trump apologists and voters, so why does it matter that these specific charges in NY are not criminal? Maybe you can explain this particular strategy to make Trump seem like a victim. Is the general idea that non criminal law breaking doesn't require any accountability for anyone or is it just Trump?
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Licensure is a state function, not federal. Therefore, just like nurses must follow nursing laws to maintain an active license and when violations of nursing law brought to board of nursing attention and confirmed in violation, action taken in state courts.
So, Donald Trumps alleged violations of NY state business laws regarding his business license case is being held in NY state court.
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