I confess to back pedaling into Trump territory when I wanted to leave discussions about him in the garbage can. My thread on the read-only break room site has 9,600 replies so I thought I'd bring up a new one.
He's not going away.
Haberman's book is out based on interviews. I won't read it, but the excerpts are interesting. Especially what he says about McConnell, a description that's against the Terms of Service here, but I actually don't disagree with. LOL
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“At one point, Trump made a candid admission that was as jarring as it was ultimately unsurprising. ‘The question I get asked more than any other question: “If you had it to do again, would you have done it?”’Trump said of running for president. ‘The answer is, yeah, I think so. Because here’s the way I look at it. I have so many rich friends and nobody knows who they are.’ … Reflecting on the meaning of having been president of the United States, his first impulse was not to mention public service, or what he felt he’d accomplished, only that it appeared to be a vehicle for fame, and that many experiences were only worth having if someone else envied them.”
His remarks included a brief mention of pledging to "fix" what Democrats "broke,” but otherwise played out like an hour of stream-of-consciousness thoughts about his last nine years of running.
Albuquerque officials say Trump now owes the city $444,986 over five years.
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...Thursday was Trump's first visit to Albuquerque in five years, after officials say he left an unpaid bill of $211,176 in public safety costs from his 2019 rally at the Santa Ana Star Center in Rio Rancho, which is a part of the Albuquerque metropolitan area.
Fast forward five years, the bill has now snowballed into $444,986 including interest over the years, according to the city of Albuquerque....
ABC News has spoken with officials from more than a dozen cities and municipalities he has campaigned in over the last few years, where his rallies and events have cost the cities between tens of thousands of dollars to hundreds of thousands of dollars in unreimbursed expenses, including overtime payments for local police officers, fire fighters, EMS and other first responders deployed to guide and protect the crowds Trump's campaign events attract.
The Trump campaign's lack of payment for such costs continues even as the former president touts his support for law enforcement officers and promises better benefits and work conditions for them, while attacking Vice President Kamala Harris once supporting the Defund the Police movement.
While Trump isn't the only political figure whose campaign events produce extra public safety costs for local governments, his visits – which bring thousands to tens of thousands of people to small towns – have often required more public resources than other recent presidential candidates. That, coupled with his unique and long political career of running as a presidential nominee for three consecutive presidential election cycles, has led to the bills piling up....
In another battleground state of Pennsylvania, the city of Erie has recently sent an invoice of $63,190 to the Trump campaign for his rally in September but the campaign has yet to respond to the city's request for payment, according to the city's Communications Director Robert Lee.
The campaign already had unpaid bills of more than $35,000 in Erie prior to his September visit, including $5,200 from his rally in July last year and $32,000 from his rally in 2018. Erie's spokesperson also said the city plans to bill the Harris campaign "for still-to-be-determined costs incurred by city police and other departments in relation to her rally last month....
Our little county is still owed $53,000 for a Trump visit in 2016.
Ironically, the local politician, who encouraged the visit, died of COVID. He worked for a time in the Trump administration and spoke out against masking and social distancing.
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Crusades said:
Thank you for your polite reply. I'm interested on how you have come to this conclusion that he relished use of force and enjoys visualizing pain?
I obviously do not agree but I'm interested in why you think so.
For relishing use of force:
I think Donald Trump, first of all-- regards the office of president an extension of his personal feelings, and his comments reflect that.
I think the level of uproar responding to a specific comment is a pretty accurate gauge of it's unacceptability for an aspiring chief executive. Most of the time his supporters will be explaining "what he really meant was..." or "the other side said the same thing". It's these instances where tone & context really matter. I don't think all campaign jargon is a call for violence.
But Trump has made numerous comments where he's obviously frustrated that he can't utilize the US Army (vs National Guard) to make quick work of people who might be breaking the law, and finds the long legal process tedious. Whether tedious or not, the president must follow the rule of law.
When he tweeted this
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"I just spoke to Governor Tim Walz and told him that the Military is with him all the way. Any difficulty and we will assume control but, when the looting starts, the shooting starts. Thank you!"
Not long after there was the walkback "what I really meant was..." What he meant was exactly that, because he said it again in 2023.
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"Very simply, if you rob a store, you can fully expect to be shot as you are leaving that store. Shot.”
The Military was not with him all the way, and when they told him that he disparaged their character in extremely insulting terms. On January 6, General Milley spent the day trying to explain to his counterparts or peers what they were seeing on that day, and for that Trump suggested he should be executed.
None of this means they're in favor of robbing, looting or collaborating with the enemy.
For visualizing pain Regarding his plans for the Wall. He proposed a few ideas that went way beyond a barrier. He wanted the wall to be painted black so these people would burn their hands. He wanted to use a construction material that would shred the skin of their hands.
I don't think anyone who would object to that should be accused of being in favor of , rape, murder and human trafficking..
When cites burn and entire city blocks are overtaken "Chaz, Independent zone" on US soil and police are powerless, sometimes you need a higher level of force. When govenors and mayors are either in agreement for the violence or unwilling to intereve due to fear of backlash from the "Civil justice mob" and Harris herself fundraising for bail for rioters, one might believe their lack of action and advocation is "they're in favor of robbing, looting or collaborating with the enemy". They really didn't seem interested in stopping it. Or perhaps fearfully lest the far left radical mob decided they are the social taboo of the day.
As for the other quotes you mentioned I'd have to see it in it's entirety before I can comment. calling for execution of a high ranking military ifficer seems quite egregious.
Which leads to my point. If msm and politicians didn't go out of their way to purposly spin or in some cases completely misrepresent his words, there would be less need to "translate" for Trump. Or at least less believability for what he says.
I think feelings have allot to do with the whole thing. Millions of Americans felt better and were better off under Trump. And that's how they will vote regardless of the off putting ineloquent things he says.
A few examples of msm and politicians misrepresenting his words. .....
This is Harris completely distorting what Trump said
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The Harris campaign immediately shared a clip of Trump's line, and the vice president commented: "Donald Trump thinks he should get to make decisions about what you do with your body. Whether you like it or not.”
Trump's actual comments in which had NOTHING to do with abortion:
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The former president refused to change tack and said "Well, I'm going to do it whether the women like it or not. I've gotta protect them.”
Trump said he wants to "protect" women from "migrants coming in" and "from foreign countries that wanna hit us with missiles.”
Yes, we know that people will complain that it's somehow inappropriate to criticize Trump for talking about violence and shootings in his rally appearances. Oh well. Trump's reckless and dark language will be criticized whether he likes it or not.
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