I confess to back pedaling into Trump territory when I wanted to leave discussions about him in the garbage can. My thread on the read-only break room site has 9,600 replies so I thought I'd bring up a new one.
He's not going away.
Haberman's book is out based on interviews. I won't read it, but the excerpts are interesting. Especially what he says about McConnell, a description that's against the Terms of Service here, but I actually don't disagree with. LOL
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“At one point, Trump made a candid admission that was as jarring as it was ultimately unsurprising. ‘The question I get asked more than any other question: “If you had it to do again, would you have done it?”’Trump said of running for president. ‘The answer is, yeah, I think so. Because here’s the way I look at it. I have so many rich friends and nobody knows who they are.’ … Reflecting on the meaning of having been president of the United States, his first impulse was not to mention public service, or what he felt he’d accomplished, only that it appeared to be a vehicle for fame, and that many experiences were only worth having if someone else envied them.”
With 33,000 Americans dying every year, Democrats believe that we must finally take sensible action to address gun violence.
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We must stop pretending that we are powerless to prevent gun violence. That's why for decades the Democratic Party has put forth policies that would help prevent the carnage that has become all too common in schools and communities across the country.
Democrats believe that we can reduce gun violence while respecting the rights of responsible gun owners. We believe we should expand and strengthen background checks for those who want to purchase a firearm – because it shouldn't be easier to get a gun than a driver's license. We believe we should ensure that guns don't fall into the hands of terrorists (whether they be domestic or foreign), domestic abusers, other violent criminals, or those who have shown signs of danger toward themselves or others. And we believe we should treat gun violence as the deadly public health crisis it is.
U.S. Surgeon General Dr. Vivek Murthy has issued a landmark Surgeon General's Advisory on Firearm Violence, declaring firearm violence in America to be a public health crisis. This advisory is the first publication from the Office of the Surgeon General dedicated to this issue, and it outlines the devastating and far-reaching consequences that firearm violence poses to the health and well-being of the country.
Keeping Especially Dangerous Weapons and Repeat Shooters Off Our Streets
1. The Justice Department issued a final rule to rein in the proliferation of ghost guns, which are unserialized, privately made firearms that are increasingly being recovered at crime scenes.
2. The Attorney General directed every U.S. Attorney's Office nationwide to increase resources dedicated to district specific violent crime strategies.
3. The Justice Department issued a proposed rule to better regulate when devices marketed as firearm stabilizing braces effectively turn pistols into short-barreled rifles subject to the National Firearms Act.
Keeping Guns Out of the Wrong Hands
The Justice Department published model extreme risk protection order legislation to make it easier for states that want to adopt these red flag laws to do so.
5. The Justice Department issued the first volume of its new, comprehensive report on firearms commerce and trafficking.
6. The Justice Department announced a new policy to underscore zero tolerance for willful violations of the law by federally licensed firearms dealers that put public safety at risk.
7. The Justice Department launched five new law enforcement strike forces focused on addressing significant firearms trafficking corridors that have diverted guns to New York, Chicago, Los Angeles, the Bay Area, and Washington, D.C.
8. The Department of Veterans Affairs (VA) launched a new paid media campaign featuring a series of public service announcements to reinforce the key message that a simple gun lock can save lives.
9. The Departments of Defense (DOD), Health and Human Services (HHS), Homeland Security (DHS), Justice (DOJ), and Veterans Affairs (VA), as well as the Office of Emergency Medical Services within the Department of Transportation (DOT), announced that they will jointly create a plan for addressing lethal means safety awareness, education, training, and program evaluation. .....
Philadelphia, like Chicago has had a big problem with gun violence. Much education and community outreach resources provided over the past 4 years in Philly.
...“Cities that are seeing the greatest public safety gains—such as Baltimore, Philadelphia, and Boston, which all have lower YTD rates of gun victimizations in 2024 compared with this same time in 2019—have committed to gun violence reduction strategies coordinated by their local offices of violence prevention and made significant investments in more holistic and long-term approaches to improving public safety,” CAP said in its analysis.
Philadelphia, for instance, formed an interagency task force after a 2020 increase in gun violence. The task force studied local gun violence data and looked at evidence-based practices the city could implement, CAP said. Using this work, the task force recommended supporting vulnerable community members, investing in community violence intervention models, and bolstering data tracking and gun violence reporting to better foster case resolution....
...In general, gun homicides in the U.S. are down by 13.1%, and gun violence victimizations are down by 12.5%, compared to 2023. CAP pointed out that 2021 recorded the highest annual rate of gun violence since the early 1990s, but gun homicides in 2024 so far are down by 16.4%. CAP also said that since the beginning of 2022, gun homicides have been dropping nationally, and that there are no signs of that trend slowing down....
Biden admin has been doing much more than "sorry for your loss, praying for you". Still with this focus, last week
Toddler shoots himself with gun left on bed in Montco home; father arrested
...Counseling families about where and how they store their weapons has typically been at the discretion of the doctor, and it's a recommended practice pediatricians have been following for decades, similar to how they ask about car seats, pools, allergies, and household chemical storage.
But doctors at CHOP are now not only discussing the subject with parents, but also providing free gun locks to Philadelphians in need. Plans are in the works to also offer free keypad safes in the coming months.
Hope Chicago can implement some of Philly's gun violence plans.
Philadelphia, like Chicago has had a big problem with gun violence. Much education and community outreach resources provided over the past 4 years in Philly.
Does this mean that her strawman deflection was also baloney?
When she calls out democrats, I think she means the anti-trump people on this forum. Which is weird, because I don't recall anyone on this forum saying they are actually members of the Democratic Party.
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Crusades said:
This is a perfect example I agree.
I have provided several examples of left wing terrorism in which you completed ignored and even rationalized.
It's Justice Kavanaugh's fault a far left radical plotted to kill him outside of his house.
It was 6/9 Justices fault that are far left radical made 1000's of threats because they make judgments that some people don't like.
Not only was it Trump's fault but you attempted to minimize the attempted assination by repeating the left propagandists that it wasn't a bullet, it was a glass shard the injured Trump's ear. Completely disregarding the innocent man that day died.
It's the Republicans fault that a crazed gun man opened fire on them during a baseball game.
These are only few of the examples that you have ignored and deflected from. Which suggest that no tragedy of victim is worth your thought unless of course it's "right wing terrorism".
You literally believe that the left isn't capable of violence. LOL
Which means you really do not care about any.
Deflect, projection and fallacy.
Perhaps you can provide examples of democrats getting almost assassinated twice on 9 weeks. Or a Democrat example of getting shot at while playing baseball. Or how about threats against the 3/9 Justices having threats against their life?
Or a Biden/Harris voter killed at a rally?
I don't need examples of left wing terrorism from the person who stated that terrorists didn't have right or left ideology ideological motivations. I'm not interested in your denials followed by attempts to create some ridiculous both sides argument that is clearly based in partisan ignorance.
Maybe your sense of self is too attached to Trump and that's why you are so troubled by my disinterest in Trump's assassination attempts. How else should that be interpreted?
I don't need examples of left wing terrorism from the person who stated that terrorists didn't have right or left ideology ideological motivations. I'm not interested in your denials followed by attempts to create some ridiculous both sides argument that is clearly based in partisan ignorance.
Maybe your sense of self is too attached to Trump and that's why you are so troubled by my disinterest in Trump's assassination attempts. How else should that be interpreted?
I think the fact that you are so "disinterested" in the attempted assasination / murder of another human being in less than 9 weeks, because they have a different political affilitation than you speaks for its self.
There is no need for interpretation, it's blatantly clear.
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Crusades said:
I think the fact that you are so "disinterested" in the attempted assasination / murder of another human being in less than 9 weeks, because they have a different political affilitation than you speaks for its self.
There is no need for interpretation, it's blatantly clear.
You are free to misrepresent me and my remarks as you prefer, you do it all of the time. You may continue to agitate about the two attempts on Trump's life and worry that the rest of us aren't experiencing the same sense of personal distress about it and we will just continue to comment about Trump's many disqualifying character flaws.
If only you had clear evidence that the two assassins were actually motivated by left wing rhetoric... not that evidence is fundamental to belief in Trump's voting base.
It's not just regular people questioning Trump's mental health.
It sounds like one of the excuses for Trump running from a tough interview in that will employ live fact checking. That's bound to be unsettling for a pathological liar.
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Trump campaign spokesperson Steven Cheung responded shortly after on X, calling the program's version of events "fake news."
He said the show "begged for an interview," and despite initial discussions, "nothing was ever scheduled or locked in."
"They also insisted on doing live fact checking, which is unprecedented," Cheung added.
Cheung is the guy that said that Vance would have to get Airforce 2 deep cleaned to get the smell out after Harris, remember?
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The CBS news program 60 Minutes announced on Tuesday that former President Donald Trump has backed out of an interview he had agreed to do as part of its prime-time election special next week.
"For over half a century, 60 Minutes has invited the Democratic and Republican tickets to appear on our broadcast as Americans head to the polls," the newsmagazine posted on X. "This year, both the Harris and Trump campaigns agreed to sit down with 60 Minutes."
It went on to say that "after initially accepting 60 Minutes' request for an interview" with Scott Pelley, Trump's campaign "has decided not to participate."
The election special will air Monday at 8 p.m. ET as planned, and include Vice President Harris' interview with correspondent Bill Whitaker.
"Our original invitation to former President Donald Trump to be interviewed on 60 Minutes stands," the statement added.
Do you remember the 2020 interview with 60 minutes? That's when Trump ended the interview abruptly when he thought the interview was too difficult. They also provided a big binder of papers that they said was the Trump healthcare plan. It wasn't. Maybe it was a concept of a plan.
The fellow was suffering from NPD then and it's worse now.
You are free to misrepresent me and my remarks as you prefer, you do it all of the time. You may continue to agitate about the two attempts on Trump's life and worry that the rest of us aren't experiencing the same sense of personal distress about it and we will just continue to comment about Trump's many disqualifying character flaws.
If only you had clear evidence that the two assassins were actually motivated by left wing rhetoric... not that evidence is fundamental to belief in Trump's voting base.
It's not just regular people questioning Trump's mental health.
If only you had evidence they were not left leaning or you will claim you do but will refuse to provide your "evidence" to back up your claim.. The 2nd one voted Democrat and made donations to "Act Blue"
The first one at one point was a registered Republican however, as with the second attempted assassin, he most likely was influenced by the incendiary language against Trunp and Republicans endorsed by democrats.
Oh and, they both tried to kill Trump. So I do not imagine either are MAGA . The act alone places the left of centre.
As for "misrepresenting your words"
"Baloney ". Your words and ideology speak for themselves.
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Crusades said:
If only you had evidence they were not left leaning or you will claim you do but will refuse to provide your "evidence" to back up your claim.. The 2nd one voted Democrat and made donations to "Act Blue"
The first one at one point was a registered Republican however, as with the second attempted assassin, he most likely was influenced by the incendiary language against Trunp and Republicans endorsed by democrats.
Oh and, they both tried to kill Trump. So I do not imagine either are MAGA . The act alone places the left of centre.
As for "misrepresenting your words"
"Baloney ". Your words and ideology speak for themselves.
Blah blah blah... more of your speculation about the political leanings of the assassins. You don't actually have facts to support your claims and beliefs and that's not even unusual in Trumplandia.
That's right, my words speak for themselves, yet you regularly try to represent them as something they aren't. My ideology speaks for itself.
My ideology is based in some fundamental requirements for elected leadership; they must have sound moral character, they must demonstrate willingness to serve others, they must demonstrate compassion and empathy, they must possess the skills needed to unite the country in times of crisis and they must defend our constitution from enemies foreign OR domestic. Trump possess our demonstrates none of those things. None.
Blah blah blah... more of your speculation about the political leanings of the assassins. You don't actually have facts to support your claims and beliefs and that's not even unusual in Trumplandia.
That's right, my words speak for themselves, yet you regularly try to represent them as something they aren't. My ideology speaks for itself.
My ideology is based in some fundamental requirements for elected leadership; they must have sound moral character, they must demonstrate willingness to serve others, they must demonstrate compassion and empathy, they must possess the skills needed to unite the country in times of crisis and they must defend our constitution from enemies foreign OR domestic. Trump possess our demonstrates none of those things. None.
Apparently you have "facts/evidence " but refuse to provide them on several issues.
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Crusades said:
Apparently you have "facts/evidence " but refuse to provide them on several issues.
Nope. That's not apparent at all. I simply don't jump at your command, repeating evidence that you've ignored in previous threads or interactions. Discussions take weird turns when you are contradicted by fact. An example would be our discussion of right wing extremism.
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Philadelphia, like Chicago has had a big problem with gun violence. Much education and community outreach resources provided over the past 4 years in Philly.
Time June 2024: Philadelphia Experiences Biggest Drop in Gun Violence Among Major U.S. Cities
Biden admin has been doing much more than "sorry for your loss, praying for you". Still with this focus, last week
Toddler shoots himself with gun left on bed in Montco home; father arrested
17 Philly children and teens shot themselves last year: Hospital's new gun lock program aims to reverse the trend
Hope Chicago can implement some of Philly's gun violence plans.