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I confess to back pedaling into Trump territory when I wanted to leave discussions about him in the garbage can.  My thread on the read-only break room site has 9,600 replies so I thought I'd bring up a new one.  

He's not going away.

Haberman's book is out based on interviews.  I won't read it, but the excerpts are interesting.  Especially what he says about McConnell, a description that's against the Terms of Service here, but I actually don't disagree with.  LOL

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“At one point, Trump made a candid admission that was as jarring as it was ultimately unsurprising. ‘The question I get asked more than any other question: “If you had it to do again, would you have done it?”’Trump said of running for president. ‘The answer is, yeah, I think so. Because here’s the way I look at it. I have so many rich friends and nobody knows who they are.’ … Reflecting on the meaning of having been president of the United States, his first impulse was not to mention public service, or what he felt he’d accomplished, only that it appeared to be a vehicle for fame, and that many experiences were only worth having if someone else envied them.”

https://www.politico.com/newsletters/playbook/2022/09/25/trump-dishes-to-his-psychiatrist-00058732

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toomuchbaloney said:

Former president Trump shared this last night on his social media platform.  

https://truthsocial.com/@AmericanAF/posts/110735839615873166

Caution: language

He wants to be perceived as dangerous, I think. His fascist movement is dangerous. 

 

Yes. I feel comfortable speculating that Trump's fondest wish is to do January 6 all over again, and if he incites violence again, he'll point to exactly this type of language to exonerate himself, because he didn't explicitly tell people to beat a police officer with his own baton on that day, and they did it anyway.

I don't think it will have anything close to that result, because many of them can see Trump left everyone hung out to dry, from top to bottom, and those still on the Trump Train have already rationalized so much dangerous behavior they are mentally beyond anyone's reach.

I wish the media would stop pretending a guy whose own vice-president is running against him while many of his own appointees declare him to be incompetent and corrupt is perfectly viable. I don't think we've seen that at this large a scale before,

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nursel56 said:

Yes. I feel comfortable speculating that Trump's fondest wish is to do January 6 all over again, and if he incites violence again, he'll point to exactly this type of language to exonerate himself, because he didn't explicitly tell people to beat a police officer with his own baton on that day, and they did it anyway.

I don't think it will have anything close to that result, because many of them can see Trump left everyone hung out to dry, from top to bottom, and those still on the Trump Train have already rationalized so much dangerous behavior they are mentally beyond anyone's reach.

I wish the media would stop pretending a guy whose own vice-president is running against him while many of his own appointees declare him to be incompetent and corrupt is perfectly viable. I don't think we've seen that at this large a scale before,

I'm not certain that most media is pretending that Trump is a perfectly viable candidate, I think they are pretending that he is a populist and not a fascist.  I think they are pretending that there aren't MAGA activists in congress and state governments who are more loyal to Trumpism than they are to the principles of law and order or democracy. 

It is important that we use these uncomfortable but accurate words to describe these modern fascists. We can't defend ourselves if we can't even identify our attackers. 

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toomuchbaloney said:

It is important that we use these uncomfortable but accurate words to describe these modern fascists. We can't defend ourselves if we can't even identify our attackers. 

Bingo! By George, I think he's got it!

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Trump Book 

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Donald Trump received $5.75 million in royalties over the past 18 months for "Our Journey Together,” a coffee-table book of photos from his presidency. The former president used a private family company to publish a work of mostly taxpayer-subsidized material, then boosted sales with donor funds. 

In a financial disclosure filed last week, Trump reported $5.75 million in royalties in connection with a publishing agreement for "A MAGA Journey.”

That title was the initial name for "Our Journey Together,” which showcases photos by Trump's official White House photographer and were already in the public domain and available for anyone to use. The former president added his own captions.

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Trump also disclosed that Winning Team Publishing paid his wife, Melania, $250,000 in licensing fees. The spokesperson said that payment was for promoting "Our Journey Together.”

It's the Trump era of conmen, grifters and charlatans, there's a large pool of targets.  

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It looks like the employee who drained the pool is now also indicted with "the boss". 

How many indictments will Trump end up with?

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https://www.axios.com/2023/07/28/trump-classified-documents-evidence-ty-cobb

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"I think this original indictment was engineered to last 1,000 years and now this superseding indictment will last an antiquity,” Cobb said during an interview with CNN's Erin Burnett Thursday night.

"This is such a tight case, the evidence is so overwhelming," he added.

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It's very difficult to imagine how Trump could say that his lawyers met with Jack Smith today to explain to him that he hadn't done anything wrong, on the same day that Jack Smith produces ... overwhelming evidence of additional wrongdoing," Cobb added.

What percentage of the Trump voting base will be successful in ignoring the facts and details of Trump's legal problems through the next election?

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toomuchbaloney said:
toomuchbaloney said:

What percentage of the Trump voting base will be successful in ignoring the facts and details of Trump's legal problems through the next election?

 

100% of them.  They believe he won the election, and that all of this is part of a witch hunt scheme designed to steal the next election from him.  And even though they might be 35 to 40% of the republican voting population, they are enough to get him the republican nomination for President in primaries where the one with the most votes gets the 100% of the state's delegates.

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Donald Trump only needed 10 minutes to show why his growing pile of criminal charges is not yet loosening his grip on the Republican presidential race and why his opponents will find him so hard to beat.

The ex-president's growing legal peril hung Friday over the first showcase featuring all poll-leading GOP candidates on the same stage – an American Idol-style audition in Iowa, the first-in-the-nation caucus state.

But his closest rivals didn't dare bring up a legal quagmire that threatens to be a liability in a general election if Trump is the nominee for fear of alienating his still-massive support in the grassroots. Minor candidates with much less to lose did take on the stampeding elephants in the room – but were rewarded with silence or a torrent of boos.

https://www.cnn.com/2023/07/29/politics/donald-trump-iowa-republicans-legal-peril

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It's interesting that most of the GOP primary candidates won't challenge Trump's fabricated narrative.  It's like they are waiting for something. 

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Watched former TX Rep. Will Hurd at Iowa's Lincoln Dinner yesterday get increasing boos as he closed his 10 minute speech with

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"Donald Trump is not running for president to make America great again. Donald Trump is not running for president to represent the people that voted  I know, I know. I know. I know. I know. Listen, I know the truth. The truth is hard, If we (nominate) Donald Trump, we are willingly giving Joe Biden four more years in the White House, and America can't handle that."

Americans bought into TV's the almighty THE APPRENTICE DONALD TRUMP not realizing that most of his "power" was scripted + TV moments that he played to the hilt. So they fully believe what he says as indoctrinated from watching that character over several years as "successful businessman" unaware that he had major failures, multiple lawsuits that he lost, stiffed hundreds of tradespeople over the years, especially with this NJ Casino (which I'd visited).  The mantra "Fake it till you make it" well followed by Trump.  But our country doesn't need a grifter but a leader who understands how government works, in-depth knowledge of geopolitics, a moral center and focus on bottom-up instead of top-down economics ---along with being a dog lover.

Grifters: The 7 Psychological Principles That Con Artists Use

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NRSKarenRN said:

Watched former TX Rep. Will Hurd at Iowa's Lincoln Dinner yesterday get increasing boos as he closed his 10 minute speech with

Americans bought into TV's the almighty THE APPRENTICE DONALD TRUMP not realizing that most of his "power" was scripted + TV moments that he played to the hilt. So they fully believe what he says as indoctrinated from watching that character over several years as "successful businessman" unaware that he had major failures, multiple lawsuits that he lost, stiffed hundreds of tradespeople over the years, especially with this NJ Casino (which I'd visited).  The mantra "Fake it till you make it" well followed by Trump.  But our country doesn't need a grifter but a leader who understands how government works, in-depth knowledge of geopolitics, a moral center and focus on bottom-up instead of top-down economics ---along with being a dog lover.

Grifters: The 7 Psychological Principles That Con Artists Use

This inability of the followers to see, hear or accept the truth about Trump and the current conservative movement is, in my opinion, evidence of how wide reaching the right wing indoctrination and cult behavior is in this country.  We've seen this type of group think in action before, it got really ugly and killed lots of people in many countries before those hateful tendencies were subdued. 

These are perilous times. 

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Twitter commentary seen today:

 

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NRSKarenRN said:

Twitter commentary seen today:

 

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Lotta that going around, lately. While I don't post, I've recently started flipping through tik tok from time to time. Just today, trumpy videos suddenly started showing up. It's mostly anti-Biden stuff (the usual) but so far nothing relating to his legal issues. Guess we're not supposed to look over there.

ETA: It would be interesting to screen for deepfakes. I'm pretty sure I just saw one.

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