I confess to back pedaling into Trump territory when I wanted to leave discussions about him in the garbage can. My thread on the read-only break room site has 9,600 replies so I thought I'd bring up a new one.
He's not going away.
Haberman's book is out based on interviews. I won't read it, but the excerpts are interesting. Especially what he says about McConnell, a description that's against the Terms of Service here, but I actually don't disagree with. LOL
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“At one point, Trump made a candid admission that was as jarring as it was ultimately unsurprising. ‘The question I get asked more than any other question: “If you had it to do again, would you have done it?”’Trump said of running for president. ‘The answer is, yeah, I think so. Because here’s the way I look at it. I have so many rich friends and nobody knows who they are.’ … Reflecting on the meaning of having been president of the United States, his first impulse was not to mention public service, or what he felt he’d accomplished, only that it appeared to be a vehicle for fame, and that many experiences were only worth having if someone else envied them.”
"Do you throw the Presidential Election Results of 2020 OUT and declare the RIGHTFUL WINNER, or do you have a NEW ELECTION? A Massive Fraud of this type and magnitude allows for the termination of all rules, regulations, and articles, even those found in the Constitution,"
What kind of person excuses and explains away the type of un-American thinking and language from a felon? Trump lost the 2020 election. He was the rightful loser.
I guess the type of person that fails to staye the full quote. So why do ypu?
If it is what you say then why leave out the entire quote?
I would say the those at Fox News such as Tucker Carlson and Hume that are labeling him "senile" are incorrect. Their words not mine. Biden allies have said the same thing about Trump as well.
We've had three years as Biden as President and from day one the accusations of him having dementia and cognitive decline have been there. Like I said, we've already had many discussions about it two years ago after we stopped talking about covid and Afghanistan. I think he's done a decent and capable job as president and hasn't changed much in the last few years.
That being said, he's an elderly man, not as sharp mentally as he used to be and with each passing year probably going to get less sharp, and physically looking frail. He should retire and I'm not comfortable with him being president for four more years as old as he is.
Thank you for that incredibly respectful answer.
I agree. I'm also not comfortable with a second term. Unfortunately I only have 1 other choice.
I don't agree. Trump said termination of all rules, even those in the constitution. Violating the rules of the constitution and not experiencing accountability for breaking those rules is the same as termination of those rules. There are very specific constitututional rules about aiding or giving comfort to insurrectionists, for example.
Maybe your media has not informed you of the entire quote?
Of course I've provided tangible evidence that Trump mismanaged the pandemic and divided the country with misinformation and lies.
I'm not on the Biden campaign team in exactly the same way you aren't in the Trump campaign team, right? I campaign for a decent man with a really good record as president and you campaign for the felon with a bottom shelf record as president.
It's not tangible, if a least someone takes time to read something you have said a million times already.
A decent man can still not be in the cognitive condition to run the US.
A terrible man can have the cognition to run the US. Even if he has mental illness in which you have not provided any evidence for other than your blinding , perhaps cultist loyalty to a declining old man. It's not about living in a great country for you it about not having Trump win.
It not about who is nice. Or your high emotional connection to Biden where you can even fathom any deficit of his.
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toomuchbaloney said:
Is it possible that Trump is a hoarder? We've been introduced to Trump's strategy for storing and securing documents and items acquired during his presidency and it appears scattered and haphazard at best. I saw an image yesterday and enlarged it to take a closer look.
Apparently Trump stores his diet coke reserves in the very secure areas of his resort and...what is on his head in that portrait of him leaning against the wall?
I think it's highly likely he is a hoarder. It's exceedingly obvious that Trump has no mental concept of confidential, secret, top secret, or any classification system. I was reminded of that again today when I re-read his boastful comments to a guy helping one of his top staffers writing a book.
I've read more than one account describing how people were actively trying to help him go through his boxes, but because he insists on going through them item by item, very little progress is made. This is often the case on the Hoarders show. That's the point they dig in their heels, becoming hostile, accusatory and sometimes paranoid. When this occurs it seems to me this hoarder is revealing their essential narcissism.
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Crusades said:
It's not tangible, if a least someone takes time to read something you have said a million times already.
A decent man can still not be in the cognitive condition to run the US.
A terrible man can have the cognition to run the US. Even if he has mental illness in which you have not provided any evidence for other than your blinding , perhaps cultist loyalty to a declining old man. It's not about living in a great country for you it about not having Trump win.
It not about who is nice. Or your high emotional connection to Biden where you can even fathom any deficit of his.
Tangible evidence of Trump's pandemic mismanagement is; 1) Trump lied about the pandemic to the people from the beginning. He told Woodward that he knew he was telling lies. 2) Trump bungled American covid testing. 3) Trump botched management of the distribution of protective equipment and ventilators to health providers in need. 4) Trump created division and distrust around public health recommendations.
The response of our nation's leaders has been consistently inadequate. The federal government has largely abandoned disease control to the states. Governors have varied in their responses, not so much by party as by competence. But whatever their competence, governors do not have the tools that Washington controls. Instead of using those tools, the federal government has undermined them. The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, which was the world's leading disease response organization, has been eviscerated and has suffered dramatic testing and policy failures. The National Institutes of Health have played a key role in vaccine development but have been excluded from much crucial government decision making. And the Food and Drug Administration has been shamefully politicized,3 appearing to respond to pressure from the administration rather than scientific evidence. Our current leaders have undercut trust in science and in government,4 causing damage that will certainly outlast them. Instead of relying on expertise, the administration has turned to uninformed "opinion leaders" and charlatans who obscure the truth and facilitate the promulgation of outright lies.
Only a person who is comfortable with the poor judgment of a "terrible man" who is an adjudicated felon and fraudster would think that such a man could ruin the country well. The evidence of Trump's disqualifying character flaws and ethical challenges have been laid out for you time and again. That you keep projecting your cultish attachment to Trump onto others is kind of funny. It's exactly that sort of behavior that makes you appear as a cult member.
It will be fascinating to watch and listen to Trump in this first debate. He is the unknown here... not Biden... we should have a pretty good idea what we're going to get from Biden during this debate.
Well, a couple of us had a pretty good idea of what we'd get from Biden.
Add to this that the debate starts at 2100. We've seen Trump's opponent communicate effectively into the night with the SOTU as a good example. We've noticed Trump speaking in word salad and demonstrating associative looseness or other disorders of speech when he isn't following notes or a teleprompter. In my view, the later the hour of the day, the more abnormal Trump's speech patterns become. It will be interesting to see if sundown syndrome plays a part in this debate between two old men.
What did you think about Biden's ability to communicate effectively?
I predict Trump will attack the moderators from the start. I saw that Hannity is already doing that. Then he will mock and insult Biden, and go after Hunter Biden.
And he may become so frustrated that he walks off the stage, because he won't get that positive feedback from an audience that he so craves.
I didn't really see much of that, did you?
The exception being he did go after Hunter once, I believe. After Joe went after him first.
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Beerman said:
What did you think about Biden's ability to communicate effectively?
I thought he lost his train of thought once but overall stayed on topic and answered the questions. Trump got under his skin a couple of times with the lies and made up data. His opponent didn't seem to have any policy to talk about and by the end of the debate his rants were mostly unrelated to reality. Mostly Biden looked old and his opponent looked big time angry.
Beerman said:
I didn't really see much of that, did you?
The exception being he did go after Hunter once, I believe. After Joe went after him first.
I don't think that Biden went after Trump's family at all.
Trump can say whatever he wants and his people believe him. He just stood up there and made up whatever he wanted.
Biden needs to be replaced for the good of the country. He has zero chance of winning at this point
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I guess the type of person that fails to staye the full quote. So why do ypu?
If it is what you say then why leave out the entire quote?