The Trump Thread

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I confess to back pedaling into Trump territory when I wanted to leave discussions about him in the garbage can.  My thread on the read-only break room site has 9,600 replies so I thought I'd bring up a new one.  

He's not going away.

Haberman's book is out based on interviews.  I won't read it, but the excerpts are interesting.  Especially what he says about McConnell, a description that's against the Terms of Service here, but I actually don't disagree with.  LOL

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“At one point, Trump made a candid admission that was as jarring as it was ultimately unsurprising. ‘The question I get asked more than any other question: “If you had it to do again, would you have done it?”’Trump said of running for president. ‘The answer is, yeah, I think so. Because here’s the way I look at it. I have so many rich friends and nobody knows who they are.’ … Reflecting on the meaning of having been president of the United States, his first impulse was not to mention public service, or what he felt he’d accomplished, only that it appeared to be a vehicle for fame, and that many experiences were only worth having if someone else envied them.”

https://www.politico.com/newsletters/playbook/2022/09/25/trump-dishes-to-his-psychiatrist-00058732

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Is it possible that Trump is a hoarder?  We've been introduced to Trump's strategy for storing and securing documents and items acquired during his presidency and it appears scattered and haphazard at best.  I saw an image yesterday and enlarged it to take a closer look. 

Apparently Trump stores his diet coke reserves in the very secure areas of his resort and...what is on his head in that portrait of him leaning against the wall?

 

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Judge partially lifts Trump hush money gag order

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The revised order now allows Trump to speak publicly about witnesses in the case and removes a prohibition on his commenting about the jury, but keeps in place restrictions on his statements about individual prosecutors and others involved in the case.

Trump may now proceed with badmouthing and attacking jurors in that case. Trump's words and claims will likely make lots of Americans think carefully about agreeing to sit as a juror in any case against the felon who has dozens more indictments to be litigated still.  

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Tweety said:

I'm not sure where you've been but we've done that over and over again since he's been elected.  People like you have made sure of that.  

People like me? 

It's not acceptable to question the cognition and mental health of the POTUS?  

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Crusades said:

People like me? 

It's not acceptable to question the cognition and mental health of the POTUS?  

Of course it is.  But you're saying "let's talk about it" like we haven't talked ad nauseam about it for a couple of years now.  

Tweety said:

Of course it is.  But you're saying "let's talk about it" like we haven't talked ad nauseam about it for a couple of years now.  

Well, there are many things @Crusades  and another member discuss that we've already gone round and round on....LOL. I simply scroll by most of it.

 

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Beerman said:

Well, there are many things @Crusades  and another member discuss that we've already gone round and round on....LOL. I simply scroll by most of it.

 

True.  Probably 90% of our posts are old news.  LOL

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Beerman said:

Well, there are many things @Crusades  and another member discuss that we've already gone round and round on....LOL. I simply scroll by most of it.

 

Yes.  Some members insist upon rehashing old news and resuscitating dead arguments or rhetoric. 

Let's talk about this instead;

https://www.axios.com/2024/06/25/nobel-prize-winners-biden-economy-trump-inflation

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Sixteen Nobel prize-winning economists are jumping into the presidential campaign with a stark warning: Former President Trump's plans would reignite inflation and cause lasting harm to the global economy if he wins in November.

Why it matters: The Nobel laureates are lending their academic prestige to a political argument the Biden administration has been making for weeks: Inflation would be worse under Trump.

"While each of us has different views on the particulars of various economic policies, we all agree that Joe Biden's economic agenda is vastly superior to Donald Trump," the 16 economists write in a letter, first obtained by Axios.

Will this temper Trump's messaging? 

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toomuchbaloney said:

Yes.  Some members insist upon rehashing old news and resuscitating dead arguments or rhetoric. 

Let's talk about this instead;

https://www.axios.com/2024/06/25/nobel-prize-winners-biden-economy-trump-inflation

Will this temper Trump's messaging? 

Will it convince the voters.  Is the question that matters . 

Besides that not new news and has not been effective in lowering the numbers of people who are not happy with their quality of life under Biden. 

The article fails to mention that people were, or at least felt like they were better off under Trump. The article consists of what they say would be worse if Trump was president. Trying to prove something that isn't happening is heavy propagandic fear mongering.  Desperate 

 

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I wanted to do a deeper dive into the idea Trump wants to change the constitution and found some old news. But then he denied saying it.

Is there anything else?

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Former President Donald Trump on Monday denied he wanted to “‘terminate' the Constitution,” two days after suggesting "the termination of all rules ... even those found in the Constitution.”

"The Fake News is actually trying to convince the American People that I said I wanted to 'terminate' the Constitution. This is simply more DISINFORMATION & LIES,” Trump said on Monday on his own social media platform, Truth Social.

https://www.politico.com/news/2022/12/05/trump-terminate-constitution-00072230

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toomuchbaloney said:

Yes.  Some members insist upon rehashing old news and resuscitating dead arguments or rhetoric. 

Let's talk about this instead;

https://www.axios.com/2024/06/25/nobel-prize-winners-biden-economy-trump-inflation

Will this temper Trump's messaging? 

Interesting that the article highlights what I said about the disconnect between what is some good news in the economy and what the publics perception of the economy is.  The Democrats and Biden need to turn this around some:

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Zoom out: Biden has presided over a period of solid growth, a strong labor market, and stubbornly high inflation.

Voters don't give him much credit for the first two but they blame him for the third, telling pollsters that high prices are a major source of their economic unease. More than half of voters (wrongly) think the U.S. is in a recession.

Some 68% of Americans still think the economy is "not so good" or "poor" according to a recent Fox News survey. The remaining 32% of voters say it's "excellent" or "good."

And that poll showed some improvement over earlier and grimmer surveys.

 

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Tweety said:

Interesting that the article highlights what I said about the disconnect between what is some good news in the economy and what the publics perception of the economy is.  The Democrats and Biden need to turn this around some:

 

Why do so many people have such a sour opinion of our economy, in your opinion?  Travel is up, inflation is down, wages are up, unemployment is down, etc.  Is it messaging? 

I recall reading, years ago, that despite the notion that media outlets might tend toward liberal on individual examination, they present information from a more conservative perspective, with conservative POV more often aired as guest commentary, interviewee or opinion.  I think we've seen that.   If lots of conservatives believe that there were shenanigans with the 2020 election the media have reported on that concern as if it has actual value or is based in facts or evidence for extended periods of time.  Now, some media refuse to cover Trump live because they don't want to broadcast the dangerous or silly lies that he tells.  Some of them will just run disclaimers for his lies about elections (for instance) at the bottom of the screen while Trump is talking.  

Repetition of lies makes the lies seem more believable.  

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Crusades said:

Will it convince the voters.  Is the question that matters . 

Besides that not new news and has not been effective in lowering the numbers of people who are not happy with their quality of life under Biden. 

The article fails to mention that people were, or at least felt like they were better off under Trump. The article consists of what they say would be worse if Trump was president. Trying to prove something that isn't happening is heavy propagandic fear mongering.  Desperate 

 

That's your opinion but your opinion also includes the idea that Trump was a good president the first go around and you can't seem to wrap your brain around how badly Trump performed during a pandemic before he tried to overthrow our government. Thanks for your opinion.

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