The Kamala Harris Thread

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Democrats are excited about Harris and as of this writing she's raised 100 million dollars since Biden announced he was dropping out and throwing his support behind her.

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"Republicans, I worry, vastly underestimate Kamala Harris. They don't think very highly of her. They don't think she's terribly bright. When you or I bring up Kamala Harris' name in Republican circles, people laugh. It's immediately a punchline," Cruz said Monday on his podcast "Verdict with Ted Cruz." 

Cruz warned against Republicans preemptively celebrating a Trump-Vance win months out from the election, arguing Democrats and the media will promote Harris as an "historic" candidate. 

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/cruz-warns-against-underestimating-harris-dems-pitching-her-mother-teresa-oprah-gandhi-combo

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Crusades said:

Let talk about the false claim that he said "inject bleach".....

He just might be your POTUS again... 

During televised Coronavirus Task Force Briefing April 2000 Acting Homeland Security Under Secretary for Science and Technology William Bryan delivered remarks on tests his lab is conducting with the virus, including killing it with disinfectants and UV rays. President Trump asks him whether it is possible for this to be applied to humans via injection while Dr Deborah Birx shrinks into her seat.  This was 3 weeks after my husband's death from Pulmonary HTN.

 

CSPAN transcript: April 23, 2000

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Thank you very much. So I asked Bill a question that probably some of you are thinking of, if you're totally into that world, which I find to be very interesting. So, supposing we hit the body with a tremendous - whether it's ultraviolet or just very powerful light - and I think you said that that hasn't been checked, but you're going to test it. And then I said, supposing you brought the light inside the body, which you can do either through the skin or in some other way, and I think you said you're going to test that too. It sounds interesting.

And then I see the disinfectant, where it knocks it out in a minute. One minute. And is there a way we can do something like that, by injection inside or almost a cleaning. Because you see it gets in the lungs and it does a tremendous number on the lungs. So it would be interesting to check that. So, that, you're going to have to use medical doctors with. But it sounds - it sounds interesting to me.So we'll see. But the whole concept of the light, the way it kills it in one minute, that's - that's pretty powerful.

https://www.c-span.org/video/?c4871173/president-trump-injecting-disinfectants

Michigan Poison Control:  At least 5 states report an increase in calls to poison control after Trump's 'disinfectant' COVID-19 remarks

Just one example of Trump unable to comprehend complex information and effect his speech had on Americans.  Not again.

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Crusades said:

However anything and everything Trump said was an absolute lie no matter what was happening at the time. So I threw the same logic back.

Perhaps he shouldn't have hinted that it was a Democrat hoax.  It went on to make the list of the most mass casualties/deaths in US history over one million people.  Of course people still believe that was a hoax.  Anyway, it is all stupid and I'm done talking about those years.

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Crusades said:

 

 

A fair question, thank you. 

If Trump's team really "physically pushed a cemetery worker" then that was wrong. However no one at the ceremony knew of this allegation until they later learned the allegations from media. There were no eye witnesses to my knowledge.  

Considering the unnamed cemetery worker has declined to press charges and the Army considers the issue closed, I find there is no evidence of this actually happening. I think it's more likely the cemetery worker was slighted and members of Trump's team disregarded him/her and physically moved passed him/her and the worker felt it was a physical action. This worker probably told others then it turned into "Trump's team assaulted a cemetery worker".  All things in this election will be blown up and distorted by both sides. 

It can be argued that Trump broke the cemetery regulations by campaining there and having photos taken. It could also be argued that Trump was there as a former president but a civilian who was invited by the gold star families who allowed photos.  The regulations state that photographs taken for partisan/political/fundraising are not permitted. 

There have been many politicians who have been photographed at the cemetery. See Obama below. 

https://www.gettyimages.ca/photos/president-barack-obama-and-first-lady-visit-section-60-at-arlington-national-cemetery

I don't think for a minute that Trump would have decline an invite. However, what was he to do? Decline the invite and be accused of not caring about fallen soldiers? Or accept the invite and show support for the gold star families and risk being accused of exploiting the families? He chose to support the families. Doesn't matter, he would be critized either way. And whether he was campaining or not is up for opinion. We know what each side will claim. 

https://www.arlingtoncemetery.mil/Media/Photo-Use-Policy#:~:text=Any original photographs taken while,have taken as they wish.

(For general public) 

However Harris purposly made it political. I think she made a big mistake. It only gives validation to how the gold star families feel about being disregarded by Biden/Harris. And they say it from their own mouths. 

Perhaps they are just MAGA cult followers anyway... 

Fair enough to look at it from all angles.  Given the Goldstar Families appearance at the Republican National Convention and their longstanding criticism of Biden, nothing Biden or Harris can do or say will make it right with them.  

Also, given their active campaign for Trump by being at the convention and then him showing up at ANC at their invitation it's not a big jump to think of this as a campaign event from Trump.  

I remember saying about Biden months ago here about something we were talking about that everything is with the campaign in mind.  The employee that might have questioned it was in the right.

Regardless of left wing rhetoric, or them innocently taking a picture that wasn't campaigning,  in the end it didn't go well for them and it's obvious that Trump and them really wanted that picture.  Trump could have stopped it saying it was too somber of an event and place for all smiles and thumps up, but he didn't.

Speaking of, before I drop it, John McCain's son didn't like it and is jumping parties and going for Harris.  

https://www.cnn.com/2024/09/03/politics/jimmy-mccain-decries-trump-arlington-appearance/index.html

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Biden has said:   Today and everyday, I mourn and honor them. My prayers are with their families and loved ones.  My heart breaks for their pain and their loss.  These 13 devoted patriots represent the best of America, putting our beloved nation and their fellow Americans above themselves and deploying into danger to keep their fellow citizens safe. 

Harris has said:  Today and everyday, I mourn and honor them. My prayers are with their families and loved ones.  My heart breaks for their pain and their loss.  These 13 devoted patriots represent the best of America, putting our beloved nation and their fellow Americans above themselves and deploying into danger to keep their fellow citizens safe. 

Obviously this doesn't ease the families pain or anger at them because Biden is responsible.  But that they are forgotten and not honored by the Biden-Harris administration falls flat on me.  

 

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When did gold star families and convicted felons become entitled to break federal law and bully a low level worker? 

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Crusades said:

I'm also sorry that due to Harris' politization of the issue has only placed the feelings of the Gold Star families in the spotlight. 

BS to that.  It was all over the press way before Harris made a comment, and that's pretty much all she did was make a comment.   

It's the press that made it a big deal and put the spotlight on the Goldstar family Trump supporters.  The Goldstar families did it to themselves by attending the convention and wanting to highlight their feelings, mostly about Biden and Harris.  It blew up in their face. 

 

 

Crusades said:

This was one of the first turning points for me. The media purposely cut and edited that video. As they have done several times. Then mass reported the misinformation.  And like our current POTUS, who either is confused/forgot or is purposly lying about it to this day. 

It's one great example of propaganda.  

I totally agree.

With this kind of environment in the press you have to wonder why Harris "dodging the press" is a criticism of her. 

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I think we as nurses can understand being assaulted and not pressing charges.  Happens every day.  Case closed.  People that were there aren't returning phone calls to the press. 

BTW, no one is saying that Trump did the pushing aside of the employee, it was allegedly his officials.  But the employee could be lying.  

I'm not going to talk about it anymore because it's such a minor incident in the scheme of things, but wanted to post what Trump said about it in his every so eloquent way on Truth Social (all caps are his)

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It was a made up story by Comrade Kamala and her misinformation squad, She made it all up to make up for the fact that she and Sleepy Joe have BLOOD ON THEIR HANDS for the INCOMPETENT AFGHANISTAN Withdrawal – THE MOST EMBARRASSING DAY IN U.S. HISTORY!”

 

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Crusades said:

Yeah. The pandemic is particularly annoying to you, got it. 

Yeah, he could have handled it better but so could so many others. 

Like democrat mayor of NY placing COVID positive people in nursing homes. ...... 

Trump saved many lives facilitating vaccines to get them quickly. The "experts" were claiming at least a year before a vaccine could be distributed. 

Let talk about the false claim that he said "inject bleach"...... 

He just might be your POTUS again... 

Yes. The pandemic killed over a million of our neighbors, friends and family. That failure of leadership nearly collapsed our already struggling health system and cost our economy dearly.  Trump's complete inability to formulate and execute an effective strategy in that emergency should disqualify him, it certainly was a large factor in his 2020 loss.  It is annoying that Americans want to shrug off and ignore that display of incompetent leadership.  People should read analysis like the following link and ask themselves if they want the guy who was ignoring risk and threat warnings from experts in 2020 to be in charge of responding to future risk or threat warnings. Who wants THAT guy in charge of decision making when things are dire for We the People? 

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC9115435/

Which country's pandemic leadership was worse than Trump's? Can you be specific or was that just a knee jerk defense of a cult leader? 

Maybe you don't realize that the complaint about nursing home patients is a projection of the overall failure of leadership that flowed from the Trump White House. Or perhaps you can point to some guidance that "democrat" mayors ignored but others followed which would justify your comment.  

No one disputes that the Trump administration facilitated the rapid access to the life saving vaccines.  Any president would have funded that effort and achieved that goal.  Trump gets lots and lots of credit for doing the EXPECTED thing because he demands that while also requiring that we simply ignore his intentionally divisive and incorrect messaging about the pandemic.  

I listened to his covid press briefings.  I watched each one live.  I don't need a gas lit narrative about the ridiculous comments that he made about lights and disinfectants.  Trump spewed stupid and reckless remarks and opinions during a number of those political messaging events and his musing that particular day was an example.  

Trump lost the popular vote on both previous runs for the presidency.  Since he lost last time he tried to overthrow our government, was convicted of felonies and found liable for fraud and sexual abuse. Trump is increasingly unpopular and his mental health decline is increasingly obvious.  Trump's lies about the abortion issue will hurt him.  

Kamala Harris may well be your next president.  

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Tweety said:

I think we as nurses can understand being assaulted and not pressing charges.  Happens every day.  Case closed.  People that were there aren't returning phone calls to the press. 

BTW, no one is saying that Trump did the pushing aside of the employee, it was allegedly his officials.  But the employee could be lying.  

I'm not going to talk about it anymore because it's such a minor incident in the scheme of things, but wanted to post what Trump said about it in his every so eloquent way on Truth Social (all caps are his)

 

Trump's mental health is clearly suffering.  He is unfit for public office.  

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https://www.reuters.com/world/us/goldman-sachs-sees-biggest-boost-us-economy-harris-win-2024-09-04/

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U.S. economic growth would likely get the biggest boost in the coming two years from the Democrats, headed by Kamala Harris, winning the White House and Congress in this November's elections, according to Goldman Sachs.

Under a Republican sweep, or even with a divided government led by Donald Trump, economic output would take a hit next year, mostly from increased tariffs on imports and tighter immigration policies, Goldman said in a note late on Tuesday.

It looks like the fiscally conservative choice for president is Kamala Harris. 

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"We estimate that if Trump wins in a sweep or with divided government, the hit to growth from tariffs and tighter immigration policy would outweigh the positive fiscal impulse, resulting in a peak hit to GDP growth of -0.5pp in 2025H2 that abates in 2026."

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"If Democrats sweep, new spending and expanded middle-income tax credits would slightly more than offset lower investment due to higher corporate tax rates, resulting in a very slight boost to GDP investment due to higher corporate tax rates, resulting in a very slight boost to GDP growth on average over 2025-2026."

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higher than if Trump wins with a divided government, and 30,000 higher than with a Republican sweep, Goldman estimates.

A Trump win would likely led to increased tariffs on auto imports from China, Mexico and the European Union that would raise core inflation, Goldman says.

A bunch of economists warned us earlier this year that Trump has bad ideas.  

Harris knows that the wealthy still gain wealth when the working class also gains wealth. I don't think her administration will ignore or facilitate the greed that is shrinking our middle class and keeping prices high.  

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CNBC 9/6/24

Eighty-eight corporate leaders endorse Harris in new letter, including CEOs of Yelp, Box, 1st Century Fox, SNAP, Ripple,

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Her election is the best way to support the continued strength, security, and reliability of our democracy and economy. With Kamala Harris in the White House, the business community can be confident that it will have a President who wants American industries to thrive. As a partner to President Biden, Vice President Harris has a strong record of advancing actions to spur business investment in the United States and ensure American businesses can compete and win in the global market. She will continue to advance fair and predictable policies that support the rule of law, stability, and a sound business environment, and she will strive to give every American the opportunity to pursue the American dream.

The signers includes the chief executives of Yelp and Chobani as well as the former CEOs of PepsiCo, Ford Motor Co and Yahoo! along with top sports and investment executives.

Everybody knows this.  I am surprised to hear Sanders or any other Democrat say it.

"Sen. Bernie Sanders, I-Vt., gave a candid answer when asked about Vice President Kamala Harris flip-flopping on several of her progressive policy positions with less than two months to go until the November election.

"She has previously supported Medicare-For-All, now she does not. She's previously supported a ban on fracking, now she does not. These, senator, are ideas that you have campaigned on. Do you think she is abandoning her progressive ideals?" NBC anchor Kristen Welker asked Sanders on "Meet the Press."

"No, I don't think she's abandoning her ideals," he replied. "I think she's trying to be pragmatic and doing what she thinks is right in order to win the election."

https://www.foxnews.com/media/bernie-sanders-says-harris-abandoning-far-left-policies-in-order-win-election

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