Democrats are excited about Harris and as of this writing she's raised 100 million dollars since Biden announced he was dropping out and throwing his support behind her.
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"Republicans, I worry, vastly underestimate Kamala Harris. They don't think very highly of her. They don't think she's terribly bright. When you or I bring up Kamala Harris' name in Republican circles, people laugh. It's immediately a punchline," Cruz said Monday on his podcast "Verdict with Ted Cruz."
Cruz warned against Republicans preemptively celebrating a Trump-Vance win months out from the election, arguing Democrats and the media will promote Harris as an "historic" candidate.
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Crusades said:
Do you really think Trump thinks that?loool He's trolling and it worked perfectly.
I think that it's a weird and crazy thing to say and that you are making excuses for weird and crazy behavior that would disqualify any other political candidate. That kind of acceptance and excuse making for unacceptable and inexcusable behavior is common in a cult.
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Tweety said:
I agree that lies and flip flops are not exclusive license to Trump.
We talked about it ad nauseam for a couple of years and can't believe it's still brought up. This is not a good example of politicians lying. It's an example of a policy change from the CDC based on emerging data and deeper dives. I don't think it's much to criticize. You can criticize the mandates. Yes congress had a mask mandate as did a lot of local governments. We had a mask mandate here that wasn't very controversial but one county south of us was no mandate.
But the confusing part is the " not receiving a vaccine that Trump facilitated then mandating them as well?" Harris made a point of getting the first dose of Modern vaccine on camera, so did Biden. So what are you talking about here.
She's trying to spread the right wing narrative that Biden and Harris told people not to get the vaccine because Trump facilitated it. It's the same old failed propaganda dusted off and given another try because the facts don't matter as much as their feelings and beliefs matter.
Trump's pandemic response in 2020 was an embarrassingly epic and chaotic failure. The divisions and craziness flowing out of Trump's own mouth was only surpassed by the chaotic craziness that his own oppositional disorder inspired in others.
You keep repeating the right wing nonsense that it was Harris or Biden who told people not to vaccinate even though that's been proven, right here in these threads, to be propaganda.
Then you have to exaggerate and claim that Biden was supposedly perfect when really, everyone could see that Biden is a very old man with the normal cognitive changes associated with aging. Biden simply doesn't fit any criteria for dementia but that's not a deterrent for Trump's cult.
Funny thing about that border that's so famously unsecured., when provided the opportunity to improve that republicans refused for strictly political reasons. You can ignore that but most voters won't.
Trying to compare Trump's lying to any other living politician (other than George Santos) is a ridiculous exercise. It's like comparing our Sun to a charcoal briquette. It's a cute attempt to gas light us that Trump's pathological lying is somehow normal in politics but it's not going to work. It just highlights that you can swallow all manner of lies from Trump but are hypertensive to any inconsistency that you may think you hear or see from his political opponents. That's exactly what Trump wants. It's weird.
Your words reflect your thinking and your values.
Anything anyone say that you don't agree with is "right wing rhetoric ". While you repetativly rant "left wing rhetoric "......
She's trying to spread the right wing narrative that Biden and Harris told people not to get the vaccine because Trump facilitated it. It's the same old failed propaganda dusted off and given another try because the facts don't matter as much as their feelings and beliefs matter.
Interesting. We're still talking about mandates. Republicans, even though Trump facilitated it, seem are the most against it.
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Throughout the campaign, Trump has performed a complicated tap dance regarding COVID vaccines. He simultaneously wants to take credit for their speedy development but has also criticized their use and knocked his now former rivals for being too pro-vaccine.
Of course we all know the big flip flop of DeSantis here in Florida.
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The change in messaging came as poll after poll last year suggested vaccine skeptics made up a major chunk of the GOP's base—more than 92% of American adults have now received at least one dose of a Covid vaccine, but almost all of the states with the lowest vaccination rates are heavily red, according to the CDC.
Because he claims he encouraged him from the grave.
He tried to use 2 topics together that do not go together. Due to his dementia.His son has no correlation with "Trump saying supremist are very fine people".
Or he really thinks his son takes to him from the grave.
Or he tried to use the death of his son to illicit an emotional reaction. None of these are good.
I have some compassion for the man. He lost a son. It obviously weighs heavy on him. So much so he couldn't run for President while he grieved.
Many people go to gravesites and talk to their dead loved ones. Many people look to the heavens and talk to their dead loved ones. Many people feel the presence of their loved ones during times of stress and pressure and feel encouragement to carry on.
But I'm also having trouble finding the context of what you're talking about and would appreciate a link to where you are getting this information from.
I have some compassion for the man. He lost a son. It obviously weighs heavy on him. So much so he couldn't run for President while he grieved.
Many people go to gravesites and talk to their dead loved ones. Many people look to the heavens and talk to their dead loved ones. Many people feel the presence of their loved ones during times of stress and pressure and feel encouragement to carry on.
But I'm also having trouble finding the context of what you're talking about and would appreciate a link to where you are getting this information from.
I understand how people reflect on their dead relatives for inspiration or guidance "what would Dad say" type thing.
I really only brought it up as a retort to the ridiculous claim Trump actually believes Hannibal Lector endorsed him. "Biden talked to his dead son"....
However, Bo died in 2015, well before Charlottesville. So it's impossible to reflect on a discussion with his son about a 3vent that did not happen yet.
However Biden did say his dead son Bo encouraged him to run for President because "there cannot be another Clinton presidency ". It seems he highlighted what Bo looked like on his death bed.
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.......... painting a tragic portrait of a dying son, Beau's face partially paralyzed, sitting his father down and trying to make him promise to run for president because "the White House should not revert to the Clintons and that the country would be better off with Biden values.”
That's when I realized—had to listen to the admonition of my dead son—I could not stay on the sidelines. So I ran.
However Charlottesville hadn't happened yet.
So he is either confused with the past events (likely he has cognitive decline) he's lying and/or he using the emotional factor to invoke empathy or inhibit people from questioning his claim.
I don't know. I'm just scrutinizing him with the same way some scrutinize Trump.
I think it's inappropriate for a presidential candidate to be trolling.
Maybe.
It was a joke that he said democrats would take seriously and use it against him.
And it worked
Which makes it even more hilarious.
I don't think a presidential candidate should shame someone who was invited to a service by the families for their diseased loved ones who died in the "successful " Afgan withdrawl. While making accusations of using the ceremony as a "political stunt" while ironically politicizing it.
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Crusades said:
Anything anyone say that you don't agree with is "right wing rhetoric ". While you repetativly rant "left wing rhetoric "......
Unfortunately for you, I listen to right wing talk radio on a relatively regular basis. It's popular in the states where I spend most of my time, Alaska, Colorado and Michigan. That means that I am well aware of the rhetoric they spout, I'm not guessing.
You think that it's left wing rhetoric to say that Trump is responsible for the events of 010621 and tried to overthrow our government, so I'll take your remark accordingly.
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Crusades said:
Maybe.
It was a joke that he said democrats would take seriously and use it against him.
And it worked
Which makes it even more hilarious.
I don't think a presidential candidate should shame someone who was invited to a service by the families for their diseased loved ones who died in the "successful " Afgan withdrawl. While making accusations of using the ceremony as a "political stunt" while ironically politicizing it.
Again with the projection. It was Trump that had the campaign photo op at the Cemetery. It's so weird that you keep ignoring that team Trump law breaking and rude politicizing to try to gas light us about the people who spoke out against the obnoxious behavior. They shoved an employee for pity sake and then smeared her in the press.
Give me a break. How can you ignore that to point fingers at someone else?
I understand how people reflect on their dead relatives for inspiration or guidance "what would Dad say" type thing.
I really only brought it up as a retort to the ridiculous claim Trump actually believes Hannibal Lector endorsed him. "Biden talked to his dead son"....
However, Bo died in 2015, well before Charlottesville. So it's impossible to reflect on a discussion with his son about a 3vent that did not happen yet.
However Biden did say his dead son Bo encouraged him to run for President because "there cannot be another Clinton presidency ". It seems he highlighted what Bo looked like on his death bed.
So he is either confused with the past events (likely he has cognitive decline) he's lying and/or he using the emotional factor to invoke empathy or inhibit people from questioning his claim.
I don't know. I'm just scrutinizing him with the same way some scrutinize Trump.
What he said was: I ran for President in 2020 because of what I saw in Charlottesville in August of 2017. Extremists coming out of the woods, carrying torches, their veins bulging from their necks, carrying Nazi swastikas and chanting the same exact antisemitic bile that was heard in Germany in the early '30s. Neo-Nazis, white supremacists, and the Ku Klux Klan, so emboldened by a President then in the White House that they saw as an ally. They didn't even bother to wear their hoods.
So he's very clear on the events timeline. He is also saying he's falling back on his son's encouragement to run for President in 2015. He's not saying that his son encouraged him to run for president because of Charlottesville.
He didn't think he was going to run again and his late son was his inspiration in 2020. Now this could clearly be bullcrap because I think he really wanted to be President for a long time. But when his son died he seemed to also give up on the idea.
I think it's you that's confused. What am I missing?
They were not invited by the gold star families. If you read the source it says why they did not want Biden/Harris there.
It's understandable why they did not want them there.
It's also understandable that Harris would criticize Trump and politicize it. It's what politicians do.
She also said: If there is one thing on which we as Americans can all agree, it is that our veterans, military families, and service members should be honored, never disparaged, and treated with nothing less than our highest respect and gratitude,”
Which is might be "ignoring the families" as you say but if she went further to talk about the families, that are clearly Trump supporters (evidenced by his invitation and smiles and thumbs up) she would be accused of politicizing it even more and ridiculed. It's not a situation she can come out good on. The Biden-Harris administration has long acknowledged those families and people lost on that dreadful pull out.
But deflecting from what Trump did to Harris is duly noted as a deflection, but it's the Harris thread and I can't tell people what to post.
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I think that it's a weird and crazy thing to say and that you are making excuses for weird and crazy behavior that would disqualify any other political candidate. That kind of acceptance and excuse making for unacceptable and inexcusable behavior is common in a cult.