Democrats are excited about Harris and as of this writing she's raised 100 million dollars since Biden announced he was dropping out and throwing his support behind her.
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"Republicans, I worry, vastly underestimate Kamala Harris. They don't think very highly of her. They don't think she's terribly bright. When you or I bring up Kamala Harris' name in Republican circles, people laugh. It's immediately a punchline," Cruz said Monday on his podcast "Verdict with Ted Cruz."
Cruz warned against Republicans preemptively celebrating a Trump-Vance win months out from the election, arguing Democrats and the media will promote Harris as an "historic" candidate.
What he said was: I ran for President in 2020 because of what I saw in Charlottesville in August of 2017. Extremists coming out of the woods, carrying torches, their veins bulging from their necks, carrying Nazi swastikas and chanting the same exact antisemitic bile that was heard in Germany in the early '30s. Neo-Nazis, white supremacists, and the Ku Klux Klan, so emboldened by a President then in the White House that they saw as an ally. They didn't even bother to wear their hoods.
So he's very clear on the events timeline. He is also saying he's falling back on his son's encouragement to run for President in 2015. He's not saying that his son encouraged him to run for president because of Charlottesville.
He didn't think he was going to run again and his late son was his inspiration in 2020. Now this could clearly be bullcrap because I think he really wanted to be President for a long time. But when his son died he seemed to also give up on the idea.
I think it's you that's confused. What am I missing?
Then he said
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, "There are very fine people on both sides.” My God, that's what he said. That is what he said and what he meant.
That's when I realized—had to listen to the admonition of my dead son—I could not stay on the sidelines. So I ran.
Sure. I could have misinterpreted his words. I don't think so but I gues we disagree on that. If you listened to the speech, it was hard to tell what word he was saying. I guess the transcript writer determined he said, "admonition".
It's a nice deflect tho from the fact it's been corrected that Trump in fact did not call supremacists "very fine people" by both right and left media. So was he confused? Lying? Or misleading?
Again. If people can defame Trump for "disrespecting Fallen Millitary members" by attending a ceremony that he was invited to by the family of these fallen service members, and pick apart his every word, then I can pick apart what Biden says.
It's interesting when democrats are faced with the same scrutiny as Trump is, it's a terrible thing. 🙄
Again with the projection. It was Trump that had the campaign photo op at the Cemetery. It's so weird that you keep ignoring that team Trump law breaking and rude politicizing to try to gas light us about the people who spoke out against the obnoxious behavior. They shoved an employee for pity sake and then smeared her in the press.
Give me a break. How can you ignore that to point fingers at someone else?
He was specifically invited to the ceremony by the gold star families. And Biden and Harris were specifically not invited. As per the video statements from some of the families.
I'm not surprised your completely 100% factual non bias media choice hasn't made you aware of that.
Harris in a campaign speech chose to politize the event while politicizing it .
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He was specifically invited to the ceremony by the gold star families. And Biden and Harris were specifically not invited. As per the video statements from some of the families.
I'm not surprised your completely 100% factual non bias media choice hasn't made you aware of that.
Harris in a campaign speech chose to politize the event while politicizing it .
Yes, I'm aware of that "invitation". Maybe that "invitation" excuses the rule breaking, the shoving, and the demeaning of the employee for the nice campaign photo op in your view. It seems like the "invitation" just washes away the unacceptable behavior for Trump's biggest fans.
You still want to call the people complaining about Trump's inability to follow rules or conduct himself in a presidential the bad guys. The gas lighting is so bad it's not funny.
Sure. I could have misinterpreted his words. I don't think so but I gues we disagree on that. If you listened to the speech, it was hard to tell what word he was saying. I guess the transcript writer determined he said, "admonition".
It's a nice deflect tho from the fact it's been corrected that Trump in fact did not call supremacists "very fine people" by both right and left media. So was he confused? Lying? Or misleading?
Again. If people can defame Trump for "disrespecting Fallen Millitary members" by attending a ceremony that he was invited to by the family of these fallen service members, and pick apart his every word, then I can pick apart what Biden says.
It's interesting when democrats are faced with the same scrutiny as Trump is, it's a terrible thing. 🙄
There's a lot going on here.
First of all what I am taking issue with is "Because he claims he encouraged him from the grave." You defended that very weakly. So we'll agree to disagree on that point.
I know that people have taken Trump's statement as calling supremacists "very fine people" out of context. He said "What about the alt-left that came charging at, as you say, at the alt-right? Do they have any semblance of guilt? I've condemned neo-Nazis. I've condemned many different groups. But not all of those people were neo-Nazis, believe me...You had many people in that group other than neo-Nazis and white nationalists,,,The press has treated them absolutely unfairly. You also had some very fine people on both sides,” At the end of the day at a White Supremacy rally he was saying there were some fine people there.
People aren't picking apart Trump for attending an event. They are taking issue with the idea that he broke protocol and was asked to not photo op the event and how it was handled.
But sure you can deflect to Biden and Harris when we're talking about Trump and change the subject all you want. I don't like it and have given TMB such a hard time about it, I thought I'd give you a hard time as well. But I've also learned that it's my issue mostly.
I don't mind Democrats coming under scrutiny and welcome it. I just would like it to be accurate (and not a deflection when we're talking about something else)
He was specifically invited to the ceremony by the gold star families. And Biden and Harris were specifically not invited. As per the video statements from some of the families.
I'm not surprised your completely 100% factual non bias media choice hasn't made you aware of that.
Harris in a campaign speech chose to politize the event while politicizing it .
I think the point is that you're not acknowledging what the Trump team did while there (and we all know he was invited) and switched the subject to Harris politicizing it instead. People aren't criticizing that he was there. Obviously Gold Star families, who were at the GOP convention, are critical of Biden and didn't want him or Harris there.
Without changing the subject, do you think the Trump team was in the right or wrong? That's all.
I think the point is that you're not acknowledging what the Trump team did while there (and we all know he was invited) and switched the subject to Harris politicizing it instead. People aren't criticizing that he was there. Obviously Gold Star families, who were at the GOP convention, are critical of Biden and didn't want him or Harris there.
Without changing the subject, do you think the Trump team was in the right or wrong? That's all.
A fair question, thank you.
If Trump's team really "physically pushed a cemetery worker" then that was wrong. However no one at the ceremony knew of this allegation until they later learned the allegations from media. There were no eye witnesses to my knowledge.
Considering the unnamed cemetery worker has declined to press charges and the Army considers the issue closed, I find there is no evidence of this actually happening. I think it's more likely the cemetery worker was slighted and members of Trump's team disregarded him/her and physically moved passed him/her and the worker felt it was a physical action. This worker probably told others then it turned into "Trump's team assaulted a cemetery worker". All things in this election will be blown up and distorted by both sides.
It can be argued that Trump broke the cemetery regulations by campaining there and having photos taken. It could also be argued that Trump was there as a former president but a civilian who was invited by the gold star families who allowed photos. The regulations state that photographs taken for partisan/political/fundraising are not permitted.
There have been many politicians who have been photographed at the cemetery. See Obama below.
I don't think for a minute that Trump would have decline an invite. However, what was he to do? Decline the invite and be accused of not caring about fallen soldiers? Or accept the invite and show support for the gold star families and risk being accused of exploiting the families? He chose to support the families. Doesn't matter, he would be critized either way. And whether he was campaining or not is up for opinion. We know what each side will claim.
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However Harris purposly made it political. I think she made a big mistake. It only gives validation to how the gold star families feel about being disregarded by Biden/Harris. And they say it from their own mouths.
Perhaps they are just MAGA cult followers anyway...
First of all what I am taking issue with is "Because he claims he encouraged him from the grave." You defended that very weakly. So we'll agree to disagree on that point.
I know that people have taken Trump's statement as calling supremacists "very fine people" out of context. He said "What about the alt-left that came charging at, as you say, at the alt-right? Do they have any semblance of guilt? I've condemned neo-Nazis. I've condemned many different groups. But not all of those people were neo-Nazis, believe me...You had many people in that group other than neo-Nazis and white nationalists,,,The press has treated them absolutely unfairly. You also had some very fine people on both sides,” At the end of the day at a White Supremacy rally he was saying there were some fine people there.
People aren't picking apart Trump for attending an event. They are taking issue with the idea that he broke protocol and was asked to not photo op the event and how it was handled.
But sure you can deflect to Biden and Harris when we're talking about Trump and change the subject all you want. I don't like it and have given TMB such a hard time about it, I thought I'd give you a hard time as well. But I've also learned that it's my issue mostly.
I don't mind Democrats coming under scrutiny and welcome it. I just would like it to be accurate (and not a deflection when we're talking about something else)
I made a poor paraphrase. Apologies. I was trying to match the absurd claim that "Trump thinks Hannibal Lector endorsed him". With "Biden says his dead son encourages him from the grave". I shouldn't do it but I did.
I don't think Biden gets "encouragement from the grave" just as I don't think Trump really thinks "Hannibal Lector endorsed him". LOL
It came from a short post that deferred the original topic. It's hard on AN to follow every post so I'm sorry for going off topic.
If Biden wants to speak of his dead son then that's a good way to manage grief. I would rather his critics lay off him for forgetting actual dates his son died, I forget my parents dates all the time. I can't excuse his claims of him dying in Iraq tho. Nevermind, off topic again.
Yes, I'm aware of that "invitation". Maybe that "invitation" excuses the rule breaking, the shoving, and the demeaning of the employee for the nice campaign photo op in your view. It seems like the "invitation" just washes away the unacceptable behavior for Trump's biggest fans.
You still want to call the people complaining about Trump's inability to follow rules or conduct himself in a presidential the bad guys. The gas lighting is so bad it's not funny.
The rule is no partisan politics/fundraising. Did he make a political statement that was partisan against democrats? Did he make any money? Did he come with MAGA hats and banners? NO
The unnamed cemetery worker declined to press charges and the Army considers the matter closed. I'm sure someone inflated the real circumstances to "Trump's team asulted cemetery worker". My guess the worker didn't agree that it was an assult thus did not press charges.
General photography is permitted in the cemetery. Trump made no political statement and did not raise any money. He was a citizen attending a ceremony thar he was invited to. Hes not the president right now is he? The actually president was specifically not invited. Many politicians have their photos taken there. Google it.
Perhaps that "invitation" doesn't matter to you?. Just like the Gold Star families do not matter to Biden/Harris? Its makes allot of sense. Ya know? Ya dems really are consistent with your disregard and ideology.
I'm sorry this looks bad for Harris and that caused you emotinal distress, you should probably drop this uniform talking point because it failed worse than the "weird" trend.
I'm also sorry that due to Harris' politization of the issue has only placed the feelings of the Gold Star families in the spotlight. This is the only light that's been lit. But yeah, let's deflect to an uncorrobrated allegation of assult by a nameless person who won't press charges.
I agree that lies and flip flops are not exclusive license to Trump.
We talked about it ad nauseam for a couple of years and can't believe it's still brought up. This is not a good example of politicians lying. It's an example of a policy change from the CDC based on emerging data and deeper dives. I don't think it's much to criticize. You can criticize the mandates. Yes congress had a mask mandate as did a lot of local governments. We had a mask mandate here that wasn't very controversial but one county south of us was no mandate.
But the confusing part is the " not receiving a vaccine that Trump facilitated then mandating them as well?" Harris made a point of getting the first dose of Modern vaccine on camera, so did Biden. So what are you talking about here.
Oh I know. And I agree. The recommendations and advisories were changing as new information came in. So the flip flopping wasn't a good example of politicians lying.
However anything and everything Trump said was an absolute lie no matter what was happening at the time. So I threw the same logic back.
Trump said he could facilitate a fast vaccine turn out. Some politicians like Biden, Harris and Pelosi said they would refuse this vaccine if Trump facilitated it. As they didn't Trust Trump.
Then soon after publiically vaccinated themselfs.
Others were not given the same grace when they said they do not Trust the Biden recommendations. (Eventhough the vaccines were available quickly because of Trump)
First of all what I am taking issue with is "Because he claims he encouraged him from the grave." You defended that very weakly. So we'll agree to disagree on that point.
I know that people have taken Trump's statement as calling supremacists "very fine people" out of context. He said "What about the alt-left that came charging at, as you say, at the alt-right? Do they have any semblance of guilt? I've condemned neo-Nazis. I've condemned many different groups. But not all of those people were neo-Nazis, believe me...You had many people in that group other than neo-Nazis and white nationalists,,,The press has treated them absolutely unfairly. You also had some very fine people on both sides,” At the end of the day at a White Supremacy rally he was saying there were some fine people there.
People aren't picking apart Trump for attending an event. They are taking issue with the idea that he broke protocol and was asked to not photo op the event and how it was handled.
But sure you can deflect to Biden and Harris when we're talking about Trump and change the subject all you want. I don't like it and have given TMB such a hard time about it, I thought I'd give you a hard time as well. But I've also learned that it's my issue mostly.
I don't mind Democrats coming under scrutiny and welcome it. I just would like it to be accurate (and not a deflection when we're talking about something else)
Yes. He said "very fine people on both sides"
He was refering to the peacful protesters that wanted the statue to stay and the other side that wanted them removed. I sure there were terrible people in those groups too. However neither can be called "neo-nazis".
This was one of the first turning points for me. The media purposely cut and edited that video. As they have done several times. Then mass reported the misinformation. And like our current POTUS, who either is confused/forgot or is purposly lying about it to this day.
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Oh I know. And I agree. The recommendations and advisories were changing as new information came in. So the flip flopping wasn't a good example of politicians lying.
However anything and everything Trump said was an absolute lie no matter what was happening at the time. So I threw the same logic back.
Trump said he could facilitate a fast vaccine turn out. Some politicians like Biden, Harris and Pelosi said they would refuse this vaccine if Trump facilitated it. As they didn't Trust Trump.
Then soon after publiically vaccinated themselfs.
Others were not given the same grace when they said they do not Trust the Biden recommendations. (Eventhough the vaccines were available quickly because of Trump)
It's all so stupid
Trump was the largest single source of misinformation about covid in 2020. That's just fact.
It's not using logic to try to deflect that shameful reality about Trump's dangerous inability to tell people the truth during a pandemic onto others. Trump's pandemic performance was an embarrassing and dishonest disaster.
No one should trust Trump related to infectious disease mitigation. He proved himself to be ignorant and irresponsible in dissemination of public health information. He lied continually about the pandemic, he earned zero trust.
The Biden recommendations were simply the recommendations of the infectious disease and public health experts without political spin.
It was stupid. Trump decided that rather than uniting the people of the country against a common threat he should divide the country with belligerent refusal to follow simply mitigation strategies. That's epically stupid and is a good reason that the felon should never be in any position of public authority again.
It's not using logic to try to deflect that shameful reality about Trump's dangerous inability to tell people the truth during a pandemic onto others. Trump's pandemic performance was an embarrassing and dishonest disaster.
No one should trust Trump related to infectious disease mitigation. He proved himself to be ignorant and irresponsible in dissemination of public health information. He lied continually about the pandemic, he earned zero trust.
The Biden recommendations were simply the recommendations of the infectious disease and public health experts without political spin.
It was stupid. Trump decided that rather than uniting the people of the country against a common threat he should divide the country with belligerent refusal to follow simply mitigation strategies. That's epically stupid and is a good reason that the felon should never be in any position of public authority again.
Yeah. The pandemic is particularly annoying to you, got it.
Yeah, he could have handled it better but so could so many others.
Like democrat mayor of NY placing COVID positive people in nursing homes. ......
Trump saved many lives facilitating vaccines to get them quickly. The "experts" were claiming at least a year before a vaccine could be distributed.
Let talk about the false claim that he said "inject bleach"......
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Sure. I could have misinterpreted his words. I don't think so but I gues we disagree on that. If you listened to the speech, it was hard to tell what word he was saying. I guess the transcript writer determined he said, "admonition".
It's a nice deflect tho from the fact it's been corrected that Trump in fact did not call supremacists "very fine people" by both right and left media. So was he confused? Lying? Or misleading?
Again. If people can defame Trump for "disrespecting Fallen Millitary members" by attending a ceremony that he was invited to by the family of these fallen service members, and pick apart his every word, then I can pick apart what Biden says.
It's interesting when democrats are faced with the same scrutiny as Trump is, it's a terrible thing. 🙄