The Kamala Harris Thread

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Democrats are excited about Harris and as of this writing she's raised 100 million dollars since Biden announced he was dropping out and throwing his support behind her.

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"Republicans, I worry, vastly underestimate Kamala Harris. They don't think very highly of her. They don't think she's terribly bright. When you or I bring up Kamala Harris' name in Republican circles, people laugh. It's immediately a punchline," Cruz said Monday on his podcast "Verdict with Ted Cruz." 

Cruz warned against Republicans preemptively celebrating a Trump-Vance win months out from the election, arguing Democrats and the media will promote Harris as an "historic" candidate. 

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/cruz-warns-against-underestimating-harris-dems-pitching-her-mother-teresa-oprah-gandhi-combo

More reasons for the radical left to support their dream candidate.

"Harris told ACLU in 2019 she supports cuts to ICE funding and providing gender transition surgery to detained migrants"

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"In an American Civil Liberties Union questionnaire then-Sen. Harris filled out as a candidate for president in 2020, she also expressed support for decriminalizing federal drug possession for personal use, and for sweeping reductions to Immigration and Custom Enforcement operations, including drastic cuts in ICE funding and an open-ended pledge to "end" immigration detention."

https://www.cnn.com/2024/09/09/politics/kfile-harris-pledged-support-in-2019-to-cut-ice-funding-and-provide-transgender-surgery-to-detained-migrants/index.html

 


 

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Beerman said:

Everybody knows this.  I am surprised to hear Sanders or any other Democrat say it.

"Sen. Bernie Sanders, I-Vt., gave a candid answer when asked about Vice President Kamala Harris flip-flopping on several of her progressive policy positions with less than two months to go until the November election.

"She has previously supported Medicare-For-All, now she does not. She's previously supported a ban on fracking, now she does not. These, senator, are ideas that you have campaigned on. Do you think she is abandoning her progressive ideals?" NBC anchor Kristen Welker asked Sanders on "Meet the Press."

"No, I don't think she's abandoning her ideals," he replied. "I think she's trying to be pragmatic and doing what she thinks is right in order to win the election."

https://www.foxnews.com/media/bernie-sanders-says-harris-abandoning-far-left-policies-in-order-win-election

It apparently seems foreign, in the era of Trump, to observe a presidential candidate establish a centrist campaign that can welcome a large variety of people.  Harris is running an inclusive and uniting campaign, seeking to highlight common ground.  That's usually what candidates do in close contests. Harris is enjoying the endorsement of quite a number of Republicans this cycle.  

Her opponent, on the other hand, is running a campaign of an authoritarian extremist.  He is not seeking to build common ground, he is doubling down and ranting about jailing political opponents and journalists and comedians who have told jokes about him. Few of his former cabinet and staff will endorse him. He's mentally ill and that divisive and erratic behavior is a portion of his symptoms.  You should listen to his word salad speeches, his impairment is remarkable.  

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Beerman said:

More reasons for the radical left to support their dream candidate.

"Harris told ACLU in 2019 she supports cuts to ICE funding and providing gender transition surgery to detained migrants"

......

"In an American Civil Liberties Union questionnaire then-Sen. Harris filled out as a candidate for president in 2020, she also expressed support for decriminalizing federal drug possession for personal use, and for sweeping reductions to Immigration and Custom Enforcement operations, including drastic cuts in ICE funding and an open-ended pledge to "end" immigration detention."

https://www.cnn.com/2024/09/09/politics/kfile-harris-pledged-support-in-2019-to-cut-ice-funding-and-provide-transgender-surgery-to-detained-migrants/index.html

 

 

 

In 2024 Harris supported sweeping bipartisan legislative improvements to our immigration laws including lots of increased funding for ICE and Border Patrol.  Her opponent squashed that legislation. He prefers to maintain the issue as a campaign strategy.  

I bet they'll talk about immigration tonight at the debate.  Let's see if your candidate can string a couple of complete sentences together on the subject of immigration.  I'm expecting racist rants and tropes from him, but maybe he'll surprise us.  Do you think he'll talk about Haitians eating pets tonight?

Maybe he won't get that weird.  

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Beerman said:

More reasons for the radical left to support their dream candidate.

"Harris told ACLU in 2019 she supports cuts to ICE funding and providing gender transition surgery to detained migrants"

Sounds good to me.  I hope by the time I retire drug use is decriminalized so I can get high again!  LOL.  I don't know about detained migrants as they deserve basic healthcare but not sure about gender affirming surgery,  I am okay with prisoners getting this healthcare, it's just too bad prisoners get better healthcare than a lot of the uninsured walking around. Many people have to restort to fundraising.   https://www.gofundme.com/c/gender-confirmation-surgery-fundraising

As Harris shifts from her campaign in 2019 to a new campaign today, one that is being written by the day, I can't find too much criticism in the honest answer of Sanders  "I think she's trying to be pragmatic and doing what she thinks is right in order to win the election."  It's best to not be so hard nosed and be able to bend some to bring in more votes, while balancing with a more radical base.  What I like it the radical left isn't controlling her.

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Beerman said:

More reasons for the radical left to support their dream candidate.

"Harris told ACLU in 2019 she supports cuts to ICE funding and providing gender transition surgery to detained migrants"

......

"In an American Civil Liberties Union questionnaire then-Sen. Harris filled out as a candidate for president in 2020, she also expressed support for decriminalizing federal drug possession for personal use, and for sweeping reductions to Immigration and Custom Enforcement operations, including drastic cuts in ICE funding and an open-ended pledge to "end" immigration detention."

https://www.cnn.com/2024/09/09/politics/kfile-harris-pledged-support-in-2019-to-cut-ice-funding-and-provide-transgender-surgery-to-detained-migrants/index.html

 

 

 

She's a changed woman now. 

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Tweety said:

Sounds good to me.  I hope by the time I retire drug use is decriminalized so I can get high again!  LOL.  I don't know about detained migrants as they deserve basic healthcare but not sure about gender affirming surgery,  I am okay with prisoners getting this healthcare, it's just too bad prisoners get better healthcare than a lot of the uninsured walking around. Many people have to restort to fundraising.   https://www.gofundme.com/c/gender-confirmation-surgery-fundraising

As Harris shifts from her campaign in 2019 to a new campaign today, one that is being written by the day, I can't find too much criticism in the honest answer of Sanders  "I think she's trying to be pragmatic and doing what she thinks is right in order to win the election."  It's best to not be so hard nosed and be able to bend some to bring in more votes, while balancing with a more radical base.  What I like it the radical left isn't controlling her.

In my opinion if she thought appeasing the radical left would help her win, she most certainly would appease them. (As per standard politics). 

It's hard to know where she really stands. It may be hard to overcome her actions or inactions for the last 4 years. The bouncing around isn't good either. 

Tweety said:

Sounds good to me.  I hope by the time I retire drug use is decriminalized so I can get high again!  LOL.  I don't know about detained migrants as they deserve basic healthcare but not sure about gender affirming surgery,  I am okay with prisoners getting this healthcare, it's just too bad prisoners get better healthcare than a lot of the uninsured walking around. Many people have to restort to fundraising.   https://www.gofundme.com/c/gender-confirmation-surgery-fundraising

As Harris shifts from her campaign in 2019 to a new campaign today, one that is being written by the day, I can't find too much criticism in the honest answer of Sanders  "I think she's trying to be pragmatic and doing what she thinks is right in order to win the election."  It's best to not be so hard nosed and be able to bend some to bring in more votes, while balancing with a more radical base.  What I like it the radical left isn't controlling her.

Or is she pretending to be something she's not?  She has said her values haven't changed.

toomuchbaloney said:

It apparently seems foreign, in the era of Trump, to observe a presidential candidate establish a centrist campaign that can welcome a large variety of people.  Harris is running an inclusive and uniting campaign, seeking to highlight common ground.  That's usually what candidates do in close contests. Harris is enjoying the endorsement of quite a number of Republicans this cycle.  

Her opponent, on the other hand, is running a campaign of an authoritarian extremist.  He is not seeking to build common ground, he is doubling down and ranting about jailing political opponents and journalists and comedians who have told jokes about him. Few of his former cabinet and staff will endorse him. He's mentally ill and that divisive and erratic behavior is a portion of his symptoms.  You should listen to his word salad speeches, his impairment is remarkable.  

Trump is the moderate candidate in this election.  Even with Harris trying to pretend she is. 

https://nymag.com/intelligencer/article/presidential-polls-trump-moderate.html

 

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Beerman said:

Trump is the moderate candidate in this election.  Even with Harris trying to pretend she is. 

https://nymag.com/intelligencer/article/presidential-polls-trump-moderate.html

 

I can't read the article.  

Too many people believe a variety of untruths about Trump.  Propaganda works.  

Harris is building coalition and talking about the people.  Trump is building grievance and talking about retribution.  Which sounds more moderate to you? 

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Crusades said:

In my opinion if she thought appeasing the radical left would help her win, she most certainly would appease them. (As per standard politics). 

It's hard to know where she really stands. It may be hard to overcome her actions or inactions for the last 4 years. The bouncing around isn't good either. 

Is it harder to overcome perceived inaction than it is to overcome her opponent's actual inaction and lies and failures of leadership in a national health crisis? How about presidential inaction while a mob is attacking the Capitol and threatening the lives of the SOTH and VP? That kind of inaction is hard to overcome, right?

Is it harder to overcome Harris's unspecified actions than to overcome her opponent's specific actions trying to overthrow your elected government? Help me understand.  

Does Trump's bouncing around bother you too? First he knows people and then he doesn't.  On abortion alone Trump has been all over the place.  From women's right to women should be punished.  

That seems like a very double standard, maybe you can explain.  

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toomuchbaloney said:

Is it harder to overcome perceived inaction than it is to overcome her opponent's actual inaction and lies and failures of leadership in a national health crisis? How about presidential inaction while a mob is attacking the Capitol and threatening the lives of the SOTH and VP? That kind of inaction is hard to overcome, right?

Is it harder to overcome Harris's unspecified actions than to overcome her opponent's specific actions trying to overthrow your elected government? Help me understand.  

Does Trump's bouncing around bother you too? First he knows people and then he doesn't.  On abortion alone Trump has been all over the place.  From women's right to women should be punished.  

That seems like a very double standard, maybe you can explain.  

It's hard to believe a person who has had 4 yrs to enact change being in the 2nd most powerful position of the US. 

Not everyone agrees with you personal assessment of Trump's presidency. 

The CDC seems to acknowledge their own failure of the pandemic. Like it's exclusinmve to Trump. 

https://www.nbcnews.com/health/health-news/cdcs-communication-failures-covid-tarnished-agency-rcna46425

However ypu keep with your blind trust of the CDC if it makes you feel more confident in your emotional campaine of Trump hating. 

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Crusades said:

It's hard to believe a person who has had 4 yrs to enact change being in the 2nd most powerful position of the US. 

Not everyone agrees with you personal assessment of Trump's presidency. 

The CDC seems to acknowledge their own failure of the pandemic. Like it's exclusinmve to Trump. 

https://www.nbcnews.com/health/health-news/cdcs-communication-failures-covid-tarnished-agency-rcna46425

However ypu keep with your blind trust of the CDC if it makes you feel more confident in your emotional campaine of Trump hating. 

What does your first statement mean? 

Correct.  For instance, you don't agree with my assessment of Trump's first term.  However, historians agree with me about his low ranking and few achievements during his first term. Lots of health experts agree with me about his failed leadership and mismanagement of the pandemic.  Lots of economists agree with me that his economic policy is not sound.  And quite a number of Trump's own former cabinet members of advisors or staff agree with me that he is unfit to serve as president.  

Are you aware of what happened in the CDC during Trump's administration?  It sounds like maybe you're not aware of the corrupt and incompetent political meddling in our Centers for Disease Control.  Or maybe you're just going to take the typical path of aTrump supporter and blame any institution or individual for Trump's failures of leadership and political meddling duriing the pandemic. Maybe both.  

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