The Kamala Harris Thread

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Democrats are excited about Harris and as of this writing she's raised 100 million dollars since Biden announced he was dropping out and throwing his support behind her.

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"Republicans, I worry, vastly underestimate Kamala Harris. They don't think very highly of her. They don't think she's terribly bright. When you or I bring up Kamala Harris' name in Republican circles, people laugh. It's immediately a punchline," Cruz said Monday on his podcast "Verdict with Ted Cruz." 

Cruz warned against Republicans preemptively celebrating a Trump-Vance win months out from the election, arguing Democrats and the media will promote Harris as an "historic" candidate. 

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/cruz-warns-against-underestimating-harris-dems-pitching-her-mother-teresa-oprah-gandhi-combo

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toomuchbaloney said:

I told you what to read.  

Yes.  My words here reflect my thinking and values just like your words reflect your thinking and values.  

Yes and I have said no words about Harris being a DEI hire. So you are right. 

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Crusades said:

Sure. I can agree however people see it as the Biden Harris administration.  Some will judge her on her performance as Bidens VP. No matter how you look at it. 

Yes.  I noted here that it was always "The Biden Administration" and now it's "The Biden-Harris Administration".  She owns the Biden administration and is being judged by the last four years.  That's fair because that's her main qualifier to the President, that she is the VP.  Again, given the elation at her nomination that doesn't seem to bother a lot of us.  

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Crusades said:

Biden said his dead son Bo encouraged him to run for president. Weird indeed. 

His son was alive when he encouraged him to run for President in 2016.  Both his sons did.    

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"It's no secret that Beau wanted him to run,” Dick Harpootlian, a former chairman of South Carolina's Democratic Party and a longtime Biden supporter, told the Journal. "If he does what Beau wanted him to do, he'll run.”

https://www.politico.com/story/2015/06/beau-biden-push-joe-biden-running-2016-presidential-election-119524

Unfortunately it was his grief and his son's illness that stopped him from running.  There is nothing weird about relatives that have passed on motivating people.  There was a story of one of the olympic female sprinters being motivated by her late mother.  There's a viral video of a child talking to his late mother's gravestone that he graduated and how proud she would be.   It's not weird to me.  

Surely there were times when Biden was running in 2020 that he was thinking of Beau and how Beau wanted him to run.    He probably thinks of him every day and that Beau never got to see him as President.  

 

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toomuchbaloney said:

I think Harris is remarkably different from a number of republican politicians on the campaign trail.  She is the polar opposite of her opponent, Trump. She's nothing like RFK jr. 

100%.  I was only talking about the idea that she's "pandering for votes", I.e. campaigning.  They all do that. 

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Crusades said:

Sure. I can agree however people see it as the Biden Harris administration.  Some will judge her on her performance as Bidens VP. No matter how you look at it. 

Of course, and they should.  Unlike her opponent, Harris was an important member of one of the most successful presidencies in history.  She helped execute that agenda.  It was Biden's agenda.  

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Crusades said:

Well I don't know? Why did we believe the "experts" that told us masks were not necessary and then mandated them? Or how about not receiving a vaccine that Trump facilitated  then mandating them as well? 

Or the people who lied and said "Biden is perfect" then less than a week later questioned his health? Or that the "border is secure" then now it's not? 

Trump tells exaggerating lies but so does the current POTUS and VP. 

Stick with you non professional diagnosis of mental illness because in the face of Biden and Harris, the lying isn't exclusive to Trump. 

Like politicians lying was not heard of before Trump. LOL Get real. 😆 

Trump's pandemic response in 2020 was an embarrassingly epic and chaotic failure.  The divisions and craziness flowing out of Trump's own mouth was only surpassed by the chaotic craziness that his own oppositional disorder inspired in others.  

You keep repeating the right wing nonsense that it was Harris or Biden who told people not to vaccinate even though that's been proven, right here in these threads, to be propaganda. 

Then you have to exaggerate and claim that Biden was supposedly perfect when really, everyone could see that Biden is a very old man with the normal cognitive changes associated with aging.  Biden simply doesn't fit any criteria for dementia but that's not a deterrent for Trump's cult. 

Funny thing about that border that's so famously unsecured., when provided the opportunity to improve that republicans refused for strictly political reasons.  You can ignore that but most voters won't.  

Trying to compare Trump's lying to any other living politician (other than George Santos) is a ridiculous exercise.  It's like comparing our Sun to a charcoal briquette. It's a cute attempt to gas light us that Trump's pathological lying is somehow normal in politics but it's not going to work.  It just highlights that you can swallow all manner of lies from Trump but are hypertensive to any inconsistency that you may think you hear or see from his political opponents.  That's exactly what Trump wants.  It's weird.  

Crusades said:

Yes and I have said no words about Harris being a DEI hire. So you are right. 

Your words reflect your thinking and your values.  

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Crusades said:

Biden said his dead son Bo encouraged him to run for president. Weird indeed. 

It's weird that you keep mentioning this.  Once again, I wonder if you've never had a loved and influential person in your life die. Why is it weird to you that his son encouraged him to run and that Biden thinks about that after his son's death? Did your media tell you why you think it's weird or just that you think it's weird? 

Isn't it weirder that Trump thinks that Hannibal Lector endorsed him? 

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toomuchbaloney said:

It's weird that you keep mentioning this.  Once again, I wonder if you've never had a loved and influential person in your life die. Why is it weird to you that his son encouraged him to run and that Biden thinks about that after his son's death? Did your media tell you why you think it's weird or just that you think it's weird? 

Isn't it weirder that Trump thinks that Hannibal Lector endorsed him? 

Because he claims he encouraged him from the grave. 

He tried to use 2 topics together that do not go together. Due to his dementia.His son has no correlation with "Trump saying supremist are very fine people".

Or he really thinks his son takes to him from the grave. 

Or he tried to use the death of his son to illicit an emotional reaction. None of these are good. 

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toomuchbaloney said:

It's weird that you keep mentioning this.  Once again, I wonder if you've never had a loved and influential person in your life die. Why is it weird to you that his son encouraged him to run and that Biden thinks about that after his son's death? Did your media tell you why you think it's weird or just that you think it's weird? 

Isn't it weirder that Trump thinks that Hannibal Lector endorsed him? 

Do you really think Trump thinks that?loool He's trolling and it worked perfectly. 

Crusades said:

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/article/2024/sep/01/trump-gold-star-families-harris

 

Woops. While Harris was defaming Trump for attending the Arlington Cemety service in which he was invited to attend by families who lost their loved ones in the "successful Afghan withdrawl" ... 

She forgot about the families and quite ironically politicized the ceremony herself. 

The White House says Biden / Harris were not invited.

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/white-house/biden-harris-werent-invited-arlington-abbey-gate-trump-rcna169154

Crusades said:

Do you really think Trump thinks that?loool He's trolling and it worked perfectly. 

I think it's inappropriate for a presidential candidate to be trolling. 

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Crusades said:

Well I don't know? Why did we believe the "experts" that told us masks were not necessary and then mandated them? Or how about not receiving a vaccine that Trump facilitated  then mandating them as well? 

I agree that lies and flip flops are not exclusive license to Trump.

We talked about it ad nauseam for a couple of years and can't believe it's still brought up. This is not a good example of politicians lying.  It's an example of a policy change from the CDC based on emerging data and deeper dives.  I don't think it's much to criticize.  You can criticize the mandates.  Yes congress had a mask mandate as did a lot of local governments.  We had a mask mandate here that wasn't very controversial but one county south of us was no mandate.

But the confusing part is the " not receiving a vaccine that Trump facilitated  then mandating them as well?"  Harris made a point of getting the first dose of Modern vaccine on camera, so did Biden.  So what are you talking about here.

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