I traditionally have a thread heading to the election, here we go.
Get out the popcorn for this one.
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Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis is expected to formally announce next week he is running for president in 2024, NBC News reported Thursday, citing two sources familiar with the matter.
The governor's official entry into the Republican primary field will put him head-to-head with former President Donald Trump, the party's current frontrunner for the nomination. Trump has already spent months treating DeSantis as his primary campaign rival, thrashing him with torrents of criticism over his gubernatorial record, his political skills and his personality.
Still, I think that he's correct in that it's not going to matter that that 46% or 51% that he's indicted and his implication is that they care more about the issues of "inflation crushing families" and the border. Is that the cultural change he's talking about? Because I do think there has been some kind of change in our country to allow Trump to succeed as he is.
Saying 51% of Americans support Trump is a lie. At best, perhaps 20% do. Less than half of eligible voters even vote, and less than half of those support Trump. The polls are talking about people who say they plan to vote. It is disingenuous to extrapolate that to say 51% of all Americans support him. The governor knows that, but he is speaking to an audience of one.
The cultural shift he is talking about is a nationwide ban on reproductive rights, a ban on gay marriage, overturning the Civil Rights and Voting acts and installing a Christian theocracy, based on prosperity gospel.
Fair enough. The voters get to speak for all of us whether we vote or not, so I won't begrudge him for saying 51% of Americans rather than 51% of voters but technically he's wrong. I will fault him for dodging the question under the guise of being supportive of the American people.
Yes, I clearly know what they mean "Make America Great Again" and "we need to take America back" or "cultural shift". But he's correct there has been a cultural shift. Things I took for granted as being decided long ago such an equality, aboriton and separation of church and state are being eroded and they are getting elected. More republicans than democrats are moving there to Florida because of that shift and they will continue to elect people like DeSantis and his obedient state congress.
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Tweety said:
Fair enough. The voters get to speak for all of us whether we vote or not, so I won't begrudge him for saying 51% of Americans rather than 51% of voters but technically he's wrong. I will fault him for dodging the question under the guise of being supportive of the American people.
Yes, I clearly know what they mean "Make America Great Again" and "we need to take America back" or "cultural shift". But he's correct there has been a cultural shift. Things I took for granted as being decided long ago such an equality, aboriton and separation of church and state are being eroded and they are getting elected. More republicans than democrats are moving there to Florida because of that shift and they will continue to elect people like DeSantis and his obedient state congress.
The problem is that the "cultural shift" you reference is authored by right wing extremists and religious zealots and not popular opinion or collaborative governance. You are referencing a tyranny of the minority. Soon we will get to see whether or not that extremist minority has legalized methods to usurp the popular vote at the state level to benefit Trump and his political sycophants. We already know that those extremists have normalized dangerous un-American thinking and actions for the cult that they depend upon for votes. That's part of what Sununu was doing Sunday, normalizing the abnormal.
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Harry Dunn- D running in MD Third District, one of 22 candidates to fill retiring Representative.
Yevgeny Vindman - D VA is seeking to replace Representative Abigail Spanberger, who is running for governor.
Hot race in PA's York County area to oust Rep. Scott Perry-R in PA 10th District: Mike O'Brien (lawyer) and Janelle Stelson (former local TV anchor) leading Democrat contenders. Hoping one of then wins for November ballot.
David McCormick R candidate for Senate has aggressive ad campaign going --appearing on my cellphone game apps. Ads convince one as good candidate against current Senator Bob Casey.
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Lara Trump: We now have the ability at the RNC not just to have poll watchers... but people who can physically handle the ballots... ????
Voted today in PA's election (closed system-- must be registered party member to vote). After signing our poll book, one passes by a table where Republican and Democratic poll watchers keep a log of voters and hand you a scantron sheet based on party. Can go to cubical to make selection, then you insert scantron into tabulation machine with election judge sitting next to machine --spoke with them only they handle scantron sheets until end of poll closes and county election office staff pick them up. Poll workers are elected or appointed , trained and pass a test conducted by each county's election department.
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Poll workers are either elected to a four-year term – or appointed. The Judge of Elections and the Majority and Minority Inspectors are elected, while the Machine Operator and Clerk are appointed. If a vacancy exists, eligible voters may be court-appointed to fill out the remaining term as Judge or Majority or Minority Inspector....
Must be completely non-partisan while serving (not campaigning, handing out literature or wearing political items), and must work to keep the rest of the room where voting occurs a "campaign-free zone.” The "campaign-free zone" in the polling place is to ensure that voters are free to cast ballots without influence or intimidation.
What do other states instructions regarding election poll workers?
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PA Primary Election unofficial vote tallies -- more Democrats voted.
Nicki Haley received 16.5+ % Republican presidential votes: 156,769-- 34% were mail in votes. In suburban Philadelphia counties, she got 24% R vote. ALL knowing she'd dropped out of the race.
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NRSKarenRN said:
Lara Trump: We now have the ability at the RNC not just to have poll watchers... but people who can physically handle the ballots... ??
Voted today in PA's election (closed system-- must be registered party member to vote). After signing our poll book, one passes by a table where Republican and Democratic poll watchers keep a log of voters and hand you a scantron sheet based on party. Can go to cubical to make selection, then you insert scantron into tabulation machine with election judge sitting next to machine --spoke with them only they handle scantron sheets until end of poll closes and county election office staff pick them up. Poll workers are elected or appointed , trained and pass a test conducted by each county's election department.
What do other states instructions regarding election poll workers?
Be willing to work about 16 hours a day or more on Election Day, or share a position and work a split shift or attend four to five hour paid training session
Be willing to be non-partisan on Election Day and not say any political opinions while working
Not have any family relationships with a candidate on the ballot
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NRSKarenRN said:
PA Primary Election unofficial vote tallies -- more Democrats voted.
Nicki Haley received 16.5+ % Republican presidential votes: 156,769-- 34% were mail in votes. In suburban Philadelphia counties, she got 24% R vote. ALL knowing she'd dropped out of the race.
Biden got 93% Democratic votes.
Expect similar voting in November 5th general.
Some of the loudest members of the crazy caucus are even beginning to notice the slow change in the polls as the public becomes less and less likely to support Trump in a general election. I watched a clip of Moscow Marge on Steve Bannon's podcast commenting on Trump's polling numbers trending down.
"Looking back, 55% of all Americans now say they see Trump's presidency as a success, while 44% see it as a failure. In a January 2021 poll taken just before Trump left office and days after the January 6 attack on the US Capitol, 55% considered his time as president a failure.
Assessing Biden's time in office so far, 61% say his presidency thus far has been a failure, while 39% say it's been a success. That's narrowly worse than the 57% who called the first year of his administration a failure in January 2022, with 41% calling it a success."
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Not surprising.
"Looking back, 55% of all Americans now say they see Trump's presidency as a success, while 44% see it as a failure. In a January 2021 poll taken just before Trump left office and days after the January 6 attack on the US Capitol, 55% considered his time as president a failure.
Assessing Biden's time in office so far, 61% say his presidency thus far has been a failure, while 39% say it's been a success. That's narrowly worse than the 57% who called the first year of his administration a failure in January 2022, with 41% calling it a success."
People clearly believe that Trump was better when he was not. The most common metrics and measurements tell us that Trump was far from the best in most things except chaos and corruption during his presidency. He's ranked very low among presidents by historians.
This is an example of how false or misleading information and messaging, as repeated by the press, serves to influence more people to think there must be something to it if so many people think it. It's like Trump's election lies. They were repeated by media not as lies, but rather as reporting an important "concern". We now know that "concern" resulted in lots of people believing that there must be some element of truth to the concern when there was not. It was all a lie.
"Looking back, 55% of all Americans now say they see Trump's presidency as a success, while 44% see it as a failure. In a January 2021 poll taken just before Trump left office and days after the January 6 attack on the US Capitol, 55% considered his time as president a failure.
Assessing Biden's time in office so far, 61% say his presidency thus far has been a failure, while 39% say it's been a success. That's narrowly worse than the 57% who called the first year of his administration a failure in January 2022, with 41% calling it a success."
People clearly believe that Trump was better when he was not. The most common metrics and measurements tell us that Trump was far from the best in most things except chaos and corruption during his presidency. He's ranked very low among presidents by historians.
This is an example of how false or misleading information and messaging, as repeated by the press, serves to influence more people to think there must be something to it if so many people think it. It's like Trump's election lies. They were repeated by media not as lies, but rather as reporting an important "concern". We now know that "concern" resulted in lots of people believing that there must be some element of truth to the concern when there was not. It was all a lie.
Propaganda works.
There is something to it when many people think a candidate is best and then vote. Democracy!
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Saying 51% of Americans support Trump is a lie. At best, perhaps 20% do. Less than half of eligible voters even vote, and less than half of those support Trump. The polls are talking about people who say they plan to vote. It is disingenuous to extrapolate that to say 51% of all Americans support him. The governor knows that, but he is speaking to an audience of one.
The cultural shift he is talking about is a nationwide ban on reproductive rights, a ban on gay marriage, overturning the Civil Rights and Voting acts and installing a Christian theocracy, based on prosperity gospel.