I traditionally have a thread heading to the election, here we go.
Get out the popcorn for this one.
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Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis is expected to formally announce next week he is running for president in 2024, NBC News reported Thursday, citing two sources familiar with the matter.
The governor's official entry into the Republican primary field will put him head-to-head with former President Donald Trump, the party's current frontrunner for the nomination. Trump has already spent months treating DeSantis as his primary campaign rival, thrashing him with torrents of criticism over his gubernatorial record, his political skills and his personality.
My patient was watching Fox News yesterday and the tag line was something like "Black support for Trump skyrockets". Knowing they are an organization that is actively campaigning against Biden, I was curious. Fair enough, African American support for Trump has risen. Some analysts are saying it is part of a trend away from the Democratic Party we've been seeing over the years.
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The Black voting bloc is unique in the US. Currently, it is the only group of voters which has consistently identified with the Democrat Party – reaching 77 percent of Black voters in favour of Democrats in 2020. By comparison, 42 percent of white voters and 63 percent of Latino voters identify as Democrats. Now, however, only 63 percent of Black voters – an all-time low since GenForward started collecting data in 1999 – say they will support Biden this year, according to the survey.
These numbers could spell trouble for Democrats in November's presidential election, especially in swing states.
My patient was watching Fox News yesterday and the tag line was something like "Black support for Trump skyrockets". Knowing they are an organization that is actively campaigning against Biden, I was curious. Fair enough, African American support for Trump has risen. Some analysts are saying it is part of a trend away from the Democratic Party we've been seeing over the years.
I'll believe it when I see it. I question the reliability of a source that says "record numbers" which is pretty meaningless. I think the election will give us the evidence but up until then it's a wet dream of Fox.
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subee said:
I'll believe it when I see it. I question the reliability of a source that says "record numbers" which is pretty meaningless. I think the election will give us the evidence but up until then it's a wet dream of Fox.
Not registering as or identifying as a Democrat is a much different thing than deciding to vote for Trump. Having said that, propaganda is powerful and effective. No voting bloc is naturally immune.
I'll believe it when I see it. I question the reliability of a source that says "record numbers" which is pretty meaningless. I think the election will give us the evidence but up until then it's a wet dream of Fox.
While "black support for Trump skyrockets" is probably not true as Fox News says. Multiple sources are pointing towards black support of Democrats changing which is why I chose an article not by Fox News. This could be extremely important in an election where it's almost a 50/50 tie.
Not registering as or identifying as a Democrat is a much different thing than deciding to vote for Trump. Having said that, propaganda is powerful and effective. No voting bloc is naturally immune.
Agree.
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"Any kind of numbers that Donald Trump has picked up amongst Black voters is not because of anything that Donald Trump has done," Rigueur said. "It's because of things that the Democratic Party has done. That's why Black voters are leaving, they're saying you know what? I have a better shot voting for a third party candidate, or maybe even Donald Trump, because I'm so upset at the Democratic Party."
I'll believe it when I see it. I question the reliability of a source that says "record numbers" which is pretty meaningless. I think the election will give us the evidence but up until then it's a wet dream of Fox.
I would agree that "black support for Trump skyrockets" is a spin that isn't true, which is I sourced someone other than Fox, in an election that is practically 50/50 Biden can't afford to loose even a few percentage points of any demographic.
On a side note, the LGBT community that historically has a high voter turnout supports Biden in high numbers, but I'm actually surprised it isn't higher.
I would agree that "black support for Trump skyrockets" is a spin that isn't true, which is I sourced someone other than Fox, in an election that is practically 50/50 Biden can't afford to loose even a few percentage points of any demographic.
On a side note, the LGBT community that historically has a high voter turnout supports Biden in high numbers, but I'm actually surprised it isn't higher.
I am by nature an optimist. It is true that Biden can't afford to lose ANY significant portion of a voting bloc. Neither can Trump.
Trump has had the advantage of being the only declared presidential candidate in the campaign trail since November of 22. His polling numbers have reflected that.
Biden is ramping up his campaign after formally announcing his bid for reelection a year ago. Since that time, Biden has used his position and bullhorn to forward the conversation that our democratic republic may not survive another Trump presidency. Biden's team has amassed a huge pot of funds to use celebrating democratic legislative progress, effective Biden/Harris policy, and improved global alliances. The polling is beginning to reflect this new stage in the Biden campaign.
Biden has an enormous advantage on a host of fronts, IMV.
Biden has more cash
Biden has a positive first term to run on.
Biden's opponent will need to be present in a NY courtroom for the duration of ONE of his criminal legal battles.
Biden's opponent has an unbelievable number of indictments looming.
I do think that there are also a host of things which are very dangerous for candidate Biden.
Biden's opponent employs a very well developed propaganda network that pretty much incorporates all of the available media used by Americans to learn or recreate.
Republicans are increasingly and brazenly repeating and spreading what is clear Russian propaganda.
Propaganda works.
The war with the right wing extremists in Israel is going to get even uglier than it already is because another right wing extremist group wants to get in on the brutality and violence. When Iran attacks Israel, I expect Republicans to blame Biden.
Biden's opponent will expect violence when he tells them that another election was stolen from him. I expect that rhetoric about how the 2024 election is rigged to start in early Summer... maybe later. The target audience already have lost faith in American institutions because of lies so it doesn't take as much repetition to get them to believe more nonsense.
But I'm an optimist. I have faith that more people will be smart and thoughtful and patriotic than will be angry and misinformed come November.
That worked about as well for me in 2016 as thoughts and prayers work for gun violence.
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I wasn't sure exactly where to talk about this.
I remember this guy telling Republicans after the midterms that the quality of the candidates matters. Now we have this. The look on Sununu's face, from time to time, was telling. He has sold his soul for political pursuits.
Is politics only a contest of right versus left now, with no room for right versus wrong?
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nursej22 said:
Where is this 51% of Americans support Trump figure coming from? 51% of Americans don't even vote.
The polls, if you want to believe them, have Trump at 46%.
It's almost laughable that Sununu claims that Republicans want to stay out of people's private lives.
I think that it's the right wing delusion that half or more of the country identify as republican or politically conservative. These political voices are talking to the opinions and beliefs of their targeted audience. They aren't addressing the facts, they are fortifying the feelings. This is exactly how fascists operate.
Where is this 51% of Americans support Trump figure coming from? 51% of Americans don't even vote.
The polls, if you want to believe them, have Trump at 46%.
It's almost laughable that Sununu claims that Republicans want to stay out of people's private lives.
I found a poll in September that said 51%, otherwise not sure where he's getting that number.
Still, I think that he's correct in that it's not going to matter that that 46% or 51% that he's indicted and his implication is that they care more about the issues of "inflation crushing families" and the border. Is that the cultural change he's talking about? Because I do think there has been some kind of change in our country to allow Trump to succeed as he is.
I've said this before but it bothers me that when asked if he wether he thought that a President that lead an insurrection should be President again, he didn't answer but went into the idea that's what 51% want. Again, it's another politician backing down from criticizing Trump from saying what he believes, from leading people in another direction, to catering to him and his base. I really believe that if Republican politicians in power lead a campaign against him, stood up against him while he was President and particularly when he announced his run for President this time, the American people (maybe not his base) wouldn't be so hard core. Their leadership seems to have lost their soul, if they ever had one.
This governor apparently was against Trump before. What changed? Indictments? Election denial and an insurrection? But he clamped shut about it and is on the Trump train now.
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Tweety said:
I found a poll in September that said 51%, otherwise not sure where he's getting that number.
Still, I think that he's correct in that it's not going to matter that that 46% or 51% that he's indicted and his implication is that they care more about the issues of "inflation crushing families" and the border. Is that the cultural change he's talking about? Because I do think there has been some kind of change in our country to allow Trump to succeed as he is.
I've said this before but it bothers me that when asked if he wether he thought that a President that lead an insurrection should be President again, he didn't answer but went into the idea that's what 51% want. Again, it's another politician backing down from criticizing Trump from saying what he believes, from leading people in another direction, to catering to him and his base. I really believe that if Republican politicians in power lead a campaign against him, stood up against him while he was President and particularly when he announced his run for President this time, the American people (maybe not his base) wouldn't be so hard core. Their leadership seems to have lost their soul, if they ever had one.
This governor apparently was against Trump before. What changed? Indictments? Election denial and an insurrection? But he clamped shut about it and is on the Trump train now.
The governor used the opinion of misinformed and misled people to justify doing what he knows is the wrong thing. He's not a leader, he's a follower.
IMV, this was evidence that one cannot trust most Republicans to do what is best for the country, they will fall back to doing what is best for Trump without warning.
Feckless sends an appropriate word to describe Republicans in this election cycle.
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My patient was watching Fox News yesterday and the tag line was something like "Black support for Trump skyrockets". Knowing they are an organization that is actively campaigning against Biden, I was curious. Fair enough, African American support for Trump has risen. Some analysts are saying it is part of a trend away from the Democratic Party we've been seeing over the years.
https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2024/3/18/why-are-black-voters-backing-donald-trump-in-record-numbers