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I traditionally have a thread heading to the election, here we go.
Get out the popcorn for this one.
QuoteFlorida Gov. Ron DeSantis is expected to formally announce next week he is running for president in 2024, NBC News reported Thursday, citing two sources familiar with the matter.
The governor's official entry into the Republican primary field will put him head-to-head with former President Donald Trump, the party's current frontrunner for the nomination. Trump has already spent months treating DeSantis as his primary campaign rival, thrashing him with torrents of criticism over his gubernatorial record, his political skills and his personality.
Crusades said:The Nashville shooter's manifesto describe some radical ideas and personal struggles around transgender ideology. I would agree highlighting that is not responsible.
However I think highllghting any shooters immutable characteristics is also not resposible. And/or even identifying their politics. I've heard "young white males have a problem with guns....etc".
Not sure I agree. A shooters personal life, politics, including sexuality and gender are all up for scrutiny. It certainly is reasonable to wonder how being transgendered might have affected the psyche of a shooter.
I don't agree with the idea that young white males have a problem with guns.
Also, it's not fair to weaponize the shooter's transgenderism against transgendered persons and claim that liberals with their acceptance of trans people is a problem that contributed to the shooting and that transterrorism is a thing.
According to the NIH: Compared to cisgender matched controls, transgender youth had a two- to three-fold increased risk of depression, anxiety disorder, suicidal ideation, suicide attempt, self-harm without lethal intent..
Makes you wonder that if trans youth were not so rejected would their fair better in the world.
Crusades said:If you do not disclose you could get fired.
Yes and some people can move to a state that better suits their healthcare needs like abortion. Just like a person doesn't have to disclose their health care status and find a new job.
That's right. A person has no right to employment with a private employer. You get to choose to comply with the employer requirements or not, including immunizations.
Let me make sure that I understand you. Are you saying that terms of employment are the same as a woman's right to privacy in her health decisions? Is choosing not to work for an employer the same as being forced to leave your state for necessary care?
Crusades said:Why don't you answer the question instead of using manipulation and appeal to emotion?
https://www.scribbr.com/fallacies/appeal-to-emotion/
I said nothing about my feeling but asked you provide an example of what medical indication requires "killing of a fetus" before delivery to protect the woman's health/life?
What would be the point of me listing the medical indications for a 2nd or 3rd trimester termination for you?
I suppose it doesn't seem weird to you that you find my words suggestive of emotion but you can't imagine that your words might also communicate emotion. It definitely seems weird to me.
Crusades said:Have any current topics to discuss?
How about the radical left's open antisemitism and support for terrorist? Or does it not count because the color of the skin isn't right?
Besides, can't you imagine what will be unburden by was has been?
It is current events to mention that Vance will be interviewing on a platform that elevates holocaust deniers.
Did you just play the "race card"?
Crusades said:Have any current topics to discuss?
How about the radical left's open antisemitism and support for terrorist? Or does it not count because the color of the skin isn't right?
Besides, can't you imagine what will be unburden by was has been?
It seems that you did not check out either commentary. That makes any remarks you might make about the ideas expressed in them pretty irrelevant.
That's OK, though. I don't read most of the citations posted here, either. The older I get, the less tolerance I have for anyone's required reading.
Antisemitism and Islamophobia are pretty much written into European DNA. Both disorders go back centuries in our culture. It's impossible to address the ways they play out in current affairs in an online short-form forum. Trying to do so risks falling into the rigid black-and-white thinking characteristic of a poor education and limited mental development.
If you really want to discuss xenophobic reactions to the Israeli-Palestine conflict, you could always start a thread and see where it goes.
Finally, your last sentence makes no sense at all. Keyboard fatigue? Bad translation app? Get some rest and try again.
NBC News 9/8/24
Watch the first debate between Harris and Trump in 3 minutes
QuoteWatch highlights from the first 2024 presidential debate between Vice President Kamala Harris and former President Donald Trump in Philadelphia. The two candidates faced off on issues facing the nation such as the economy, abortion and immigration.
Donald Trump Promotes Fake Rumor About Immigrants Eating Pets occurring in Springfield, Ohio per internet unconfirmed post.- moderator disputed fact check.
'I Said That?’ Trump Backtracks on Confession He Lost 2020 Election When Confronted at Debate
Trump showed up in the reporters spin room post debate to clean up responses. Kamala offered him a second debate.
READ: Harris-Trump presidential debate transcript
Ate pumpkin biscotti instead of popcorn while trying to finish needlepoint Halloween piece. Good night.
News Nation 9/10/2024
Who won Harris-Trump presidential debate?
Analysts: Harris had a better night, help from moderators
Both were neck and neck in predebate polls
QuoteNewsNation's Dan Abrams and Chris Stirewalt joined Chris Cuomo to discuss some of the hottest debate topics: Did the moderators favor one candidate? Did Harris and Trump accomplish what they set out to do?
Abrams and Cuomo agreed that Harris' hopeful rhetoric is more likely to sway undecided voters.
Stirewalt told Cuomo and Abrams that he felt as though the moderators went harder on Trump, a sentiment echoed by Republicans.
Cuomo asked Stirewalt to clarify his statement, asking: "Do you believe that they were helping Harris, or he requires more fact-checking because he is completely reckless with the truth on a regular basis more than anyone he's ever on stage with?”
"A lot of Republicans tonight are going to take comfort from the fact that it was unfair, that it was rigged, that it was bad,” Stirewalt said.
Trump had more response time than Harris, fact checked 5x; Harris: 0
Indy Star: In tonight's debate, Harris showed up as a prosecutor. Trump showed up as himself
BBC: Harris goads Trump into flustered debate performance
USA Today: Swing state voters watching debate say Harris was prepared, Trump lost his cool
CBS
Fact checking debate claims from Trump and Harris' 2024 presidential face-off
NRSKarenRN said:News Nation 9/10/2024
Who won Harris-Trump presidential debate?
Analysts: Harris had a better night, help from moderators
Both were neck and neck in predebate polls
Trump had more response time than Harris, fact checked 5x; Harris: 0
Indy Star: In tonight's debate, Harris showed up as a prosecutor. Trump showed up as himself
BBC: Harris goads Trump into flustered debate performance
USA Today: Swing state voters watching debate say Harris was prepared, Trump lost his cool
CBS
Fact checking debate claims from Trump and Harris' 2024 presidential face-off
Trumps most devoted voters will definitely believe that the debate moderators treated Trump unfairly, I'll be surprised if that's not the theme of team Trump's messaging in the coming days. In reality, the country got to witness exactly how easily Trump can be goaded. The old fellow got noticeably upset and just started sputtering and yelling about conspiracies. It wasn't a good look.
https://www.npr.org/2024/09/11/g-s1-22023/debate-harris-trump-takeaways
QuoteComing into the debate, we noted that if Harris is "able to acquit herself passably, the spotlight and scrutiny should be heavily on Trump.”
That's because Trump did not have a very good debate against Biden in June, but his serious problems – his lack of substance and repeated lies – were overshadowed by Biden's disastrous performance, maybe the worst of any presidential candidate in history.
With a more-than-competent performance from Harris Tuesday, Trump's lies, meandering, conspiracies and often general incoherence was made even more glaring.
He wandered through conspiracies about, not just the election, but also about who is currently president (Joe Biden), the usual about immigrants who (aren't actually) coming from "mental institutions and insane asylums" and the newly unusual (and debunked) about immigrants who (are not) "eating the dogs" or "cats.”
Trump definitely appeared unwell and unfit for office.
NRSKarenRN said:News Nation 9/10/2024
Who won Harris-Trump presidential debate?
Analysts: Harris had a better night, help from moderators
Both were neck and neck in predebate polls
Trump had more response time than Harris, fact checked 5x; Harris: 0
Indy Star: In tonight's debate, Harris showed up as a prosecutor. Trump showed up as himself
BBC: Harris goads Trump into flustered debate performance
USA Today: Swing state voters watching debate say Harris was prepared, Trump lost his cool
CBS
Fact checking debate claims from Trump and Harris' 2024 presidential face-off
Not Trump's best night. He did make great points at times, but also took the bait and went down the rabbit hole a few times. Buy mostly on things that don't matter, such as Jan 6 old news and what she said about his rallys.
It still comes down to the economy and immigration. I don't see how Harris won any independent voters.
CNN interviewed two independents. One remarked that both have been in office and things were better under Trump. The other pointed out Harris' moderate stance is a facade.
I haven't heard any analysis say that Trump is mentally ill. Have you?
Beerman said:Not Trump's best night. He did make great points at times, but also took the bait and went down the rabbit hole a few times. Buy mostly on things that don't matter, such as Jan 6 old news and what she said about his rallys.
It still comes down to the economy and immigration. I don't see how Harris won any independent voters.
CNN interviewed two independents. One remarked that both have been in office and things were better under Trump. The other pointed out Harris' moderate stance is a facade.
I haven't heard any analysis say that Trump is mentally ill. Have you?
Trump made great points? Was it when he made the point that democrats support abortion after the baby is born or when he was trying to figure out how to answer that question about what he was doing for that extended period of time while his mob was attacking the Capitol and threatening the VP?
Do you need to hear political analysts talk about mental illness to identify the obvious symptoms in a public figure?
QuoteSymptoms of narcissistic personality disorder and how severe they are can vary. People with the disorder can:
Have an unreasonably high sense of self-importance and require constant, excessive admiration.
Feel that they deserve privileges and special treatment.
Expect to be recognized as superior even without achievements.
Make achievements and talents seem bigger than they are.
Be preoccupied with fantasies about success, power, brilliance, beauty or the perfect mate.
Believe they are superior to others and can only spend time with or be understood by equally special people.
Be critical of and look down on people they feel are not important.
Expect special favors and expect other people to do what they want without questioning them.
Take advantage of others to get what they want.
Have an inability or unwillingness to recognize the needs and feelings of others.
Be envious of others and believe others envy them.
Behave in an arrogant way, brag a lot and come across as conceited.
Insist on having the best of everything — for instance, the best car or office.
Which of those are not displayed by Trump on the regular?
QuoteAt the same time, people with narcissistic personality disorder have trouble handling anything they view as criticism. They can:
Become impatient or angry when they don't receive special recognition or treatment.
Have major problems interacting with others and easily feel slighted.
React with rage or contempt and try to belittle other people to make themselves appear superior.
Have difficulty managing their emotions and behavior.
Experience major problems dealing with stress and adapting to change.
Withdraw from or avoid situations in which they might fail.
Feel depressed and moody because they fall short of perfection.
Have secret feelings of insecurity, shame, humiliation and fear of being exposed as a failure.
Have you noticed any of those symptoms?
Trumps erratic, reckless, and crazy debate responses will be examined over the coming days. Lots of people will make excuses for his inability to answer questions or speak in cogent sentences.
heron, ASN, RN
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Perhaps they are too busy trying not to get shot.