The election 2024 Thread

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I traditionally have a thread heading to the election, here we go.

Get out the popcorn for this one.

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Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis is expected to formally announce next week he is running for president in 2024, NBC News reported Thursday, citing two sources familiar with the matter.

The governor's official entry into the Republican primary field will put him head-to-head with former President Donald Trump, the party's current frontrunner for the nomination. Trump has already spent months treating DeSantis as his primary campaign rival, thrashing him with torrents of criticism over his gubernatorial record, his political skills and his personality.

https://www.cnbc.com/2023/05/18/desantis-plans-to-officially-announce-presidential-run-next-week.html

toomuchbaloney said:

Do you need to hear political analysts talk about mental illness to identify the obvious symptoms in a public figure?  

Which of those are not displayed by Trump on the regular? 

Have you noticed any of those symptoms? 

https://www.mayoclinic.org/diseases-conditions/narcissistic-personality-disorder/symptoms-causes/syc-20366662

 

Sounds like most politicians.

 

toomuchbaloney said:

Trumps erratic, reckless, and crazy debate responses will be examined over the coming days.  Lots of people will make excuses for his inability to answer questions or speak in cogent sentences.  

You think we havent heard of his mental illness because it will take days to examine his speech?  

Those independents interviewed on CNN will realize it later?

I'm hesitant to trust the opinion of someone who believes Biden is fit for office.

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Beerman said:

Sounds like most politicians.

 

Sounds like denial.  

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Beerman said:

You think we havent heard of his mental illness because it will take days to examine his speech?  

Those independents interviewed on CNN will realize it later?

I'm hesitant to trust the opinion of someone who believes Biden is fit for office.

I think we've heard about Trump's mental illness since 2016 but the media is more interested in normalizing Trump's mental illness than examining it.  

I'm hesitant to trust the opinion of someone who would believe and defend a pathological liar who already tried to overthrow the government once before.  

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Tweety said:

Not sure I agree.  A shooters personal life, politics, including sexuality and gender are all up for scrutiny.  It certainly is reasonable to wonder how being transgendered might have affected the psyche of a shooter. 

I don't agree with the idea that young white males have a problem with guns.

Also, it's not fair to weaponize the shooter's transgenderism against transgendered persons and claim that liberals with their acceptance of trans people is a problem that contributed to the shooting and that transterrorism is a thing.

According to the NIH:  Compared to cisgender matched controls, transgender youth had a two- to three-fold increased risk of depression, anxiety disorder, suicidal ideation, suicide attempt, self-harm without lethal intent..

Makes you wonder that if trans youth were not so rejected would their fair better in the world.  

I can only speculate but I do not think it's completely unreasonable to wonder if some trans extreemist claiming there is a "trans genoside" had a factor in her choosing to shoot innocent people.  Also the social accepted desparaging of Christians? 

In my experience being a parent of school children, LGBTQ are not rejected and are almost celebrated by peers teacher and their parents. In some classes teachers strongly encourage students to state their pronouns whenever they address the class. After a respectful discussion, the practice was ended. It was discovered this made trans children and the other students uncomfortable.  

There was as trans child at my son's school that switched schools because they were tired of all the attention. They just wanted to go to school, not be some idol. That's a personal experience but I wonder if this is also a common situation.  So much we do not know. 

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heron said:

Perhaps they are too busy trying not to get shot.

They should ask Trump for some tips. 

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toomuchbaloney said:

That's right.  A person has no right to employment with a private employer.  You get to choose to comply with the employer requirements or not, including immunizations.  

Let me make sure that I understand you. Are you saying that terms of employment are the same as a woman's right to privacy in her health decisions? Is choosing not to work for an employer the same as being forced to leave your state for necessary care? 

 

No. I'm just wondering what it considered private medical information and what is not? 

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toomuchbaloney said:

What would be the point of me listing the medical indications for a 2nd or 3rd trimester termination for you? 

I suppose it doesn't seem weird to you that you find my words suggestive of emotion but you can't imagine that your words might also communicate emotion.  It definitely seems weird to me.  

You just seem  educated on the subject and have allot if experience.  You asked me if on my labor/delivery rotation in school if I saw such circumstances related to later pregnancy abortions.  Have you? Was there a medical indication that required "killing the fetus"? If no, that's fine. 

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heron said:

It seems that you did not check out either commentary. That makes any remarks you might make about the ideas expressed in them pretty irrelevant.

That's OK, though. I don't read most of the citations posted here, either. The older I get, the less tolerance I have for anyone's required reading. 

Antisemitism and Islamophobia are pretty much written into European DNA. Both disorders go back centuries in our culture. It's impossible to address the ways they play out in current affairs in an online short-form forum. Trying to do so risks falling into the rigid black-and-white thinking characteristic of a poor education and limited mental development.

If you really want to discuss xenophobic reactions to the Israeli-Palestine conflict, you could always start a thread and see where it goes. 

Finally, your last sentence makes no sense at all. Keyboard fatigue? Bad translation app? Get some rest and try again.

Yes once was burden us again. How about now? Do you feel that radical Islam is less antisemitic than present day Eurpeans? I would disagree.  Europe is know for its welcoming of Islamic migrants and immigration.  

Would Islamic countries welcom Jewish people as much as Europe does Islamic people?  

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toomuchbaloney said:

https://www.npr.org/2024/09/11/g-s1-22023/debate-harris-trump-takeaways

Trump definitely appeared unwell and unfit for office.  

What symptoms did you notice?  

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toomuchbaloney said:

I think we've heard about Trump's mental illness since 2016 but the media is more interested in normalizing Trump's mental illness than examining it.  

I'm hesitant to trust the opinion of someone who would believe and defend a pathological liar who already tried to overthrow the government once before.  

What media? Fox? LOL

Or msmbc CNN? LOL or any of the other dominant left wing media? 

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toomuchbaloney said:

What would be the point of me listing the medical indications for a 2nd or 3rd trimester termination for you? 

I suppose it doesn't seem weird to you that you find my words suggestive of emotion but you can't imagine that your words might also communicate emotion.  It definitely seems weird to me.  

Appeal to emotion as in the propagandic fallacy  I provided the definition already. 

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