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I traditionally have a thread heading to the election, here we go.
Get out the popcorn for this one.
QuoteFlorida Gov. Ron DeSantis is expected to formally announce next week he is running for president in 2024, NBC News reported Thursday, citing two sources familiar with the matter.
The governor's official entry into the Republican primary field will put him head-to-head with former President Donald Trump, the party's current frontrunner for the nomination. Trump has already spent months treating DeSantis as his primary campaign rival, thrashing him with torrents of criticism over his gubernatorial record, his political skills and his personality.
toomuchbaloney said:What would be the point of me listing the medical indications for a 2nd or 3rd trimester termination for you?
I suppose it doesn't seem weird to you that you find my words suggestive of emotion but you can't imagine that your words might also communicate emotion. It definitely seems weird to me.
If Crusades is really a nurse, she can look it up. Roe v Wade decided at anything after 24 weeks is late-term; so 24 weeks and 1 day would be measured as "late term." I have a very easy life and no imagination but I know for sure that problems can arise later in a pregnancy (rarely and that's why a "late-term" abortion is exceedingly rare) so I'm not going to deny one to a women who didn't discover her baby is anacephalic until after 24 weeks. Obstetricians in rural areas are becoming a rare bird. I can see how people show up late.
subee said:If Crusades is really a nurse, she can look it up. Roe v Wade decided at anything after 24 weeks is late-term; so 24 weeks and 1 day would be measured as "late term." I have a very easy life and no imagination but I know for sure that problems can arise later in a pregnancy (rarely and that's why a "late-term" abortion is exceedingly rare) so I'm not going to deny one to a women who didn't discover her baby is anacephalic until after 24 weeks. Obstetricians in rural areas are becoming a rare bird. I can see how people show up late.
Not to mention that even before they overturned Roe, Republicans at the state level made it very difficult for poor women to access abortions and other affordable reproductive health care.
https://www.npr.org/2024/09/11/nx-s1-5108849/wall-street-investors-think-trump-lost-the-debate-too
QuoteShares in Trump Media & Technology Group, the parent company of Trump's Truth Social network, plunged more than 16% on Wednesday morning to a record low. The shares recovered a bit by mid-afternoon, but were still down more than 12%.
QuoteBut it's not just Trump Media shareholders who now appear to give Harris the edge in last night's debate. Investors broadly appear to think that the vice president improved her chances of a November victory, according to several closely-watched stock-market indicators.
I wonder what Trump's strategy will be to turn this around.
Crusades said:So you have no examples of mental illness and/frontal lobe dementia?
Trump didn't do well. I agree. However I fail to see the symptoms you feel so strongly about. You could elaborate but you don't. Cool.
Did you read my other comments about symptoms prior to the debate? Do you remember what those symptoms were? When you watched the debate did you observe any of those symptoms in Trump? Cool.
What things did you observe in Trump's debate performance that resulted in the poor performance?
What did you think he did well that isn't getting the attention that it deserves?
Beerman said:CNN interviewed two independents. One remarked that both have been in office and things were better under Trump. The other pointed out Harris' moderate stance is a facade.
BBC interviewed a moderate and the said the same thing that "things were better under Trump". That's a tough one to get past for many people. Inflation happened under Biden. End of discussion. He also mentioned that Trump was fact checked more and the moderators were biased, but he's still undecided because he doesn't like Trump.
Interesting was the independent and the Trump supporter they interviewed didn't care about immigration. Perhaps they didn't want to talk about them eating pets or they care about inflation more. The Trump supporter said something to the effect that even though he lies about things he's still a good leader and that the world isn't ready for a female President because that's just how the world is. She wouldn't be able to work with other male world leaders effectively.
Crusades said:
I did not claim or suggest there wasn't or there not is a medical indication for the proceedure. I asked for a condition specifically.
What would be a medical consideration that requires "killing the fetus" in the uterus before delivery to save a woman's heath or life?
Nor was I asking what medical intervention would require an abortion. This is ridiculous and you know I was not saying that. I had a emergency intervention myself. Nor was I suggesting that there wasn't "ever a medical condition" to accept a recommended abortion.
If you do not know and want to accept that there must be because the proceedure exist then that is that.
Ypu obviously do not know or cannot find any information.
Oh, a condition, specifically, that changes everything I guess.
Let's talk about the decisions that these young women were making in the inpatient perinatal unit. Now you want to explore some of the most painful parts of these complicated medical choices and procedures to try to make an emotional political point in a nursing forum. I'm not going to play that weird game.
I'm not as easy to goad me as is to goad Trump. Try again.
toomuchbaloney said:Not to mention that even before they overturned Roe, Republicans at the state level made it very difficult for poor women to access abortions and other affordable reproductive health care.
Except that's noting to do with what I'm talking about. If you are a nurse you have the ability to read and comprehend text.
toomuchbaloney said:Did you read my other comments about symptoms prior to the debate? Do you remember what those symptoms were? When you watched the debate did you observe any of those symptoms in Trump? Cool.
What things did you observe in Trump's debate performance that resulted in the poor performance?
What did you think he did well that isn't getting the attention that it deserves?
Problem is you just made the same claim over and over and did not apply to the actual symptoms of the speculated conditions. Or you may have posted a generic mental illness symptom from a website but did not apply them to actual behaviors you see in Trump. Other than he rambles and lies allot.
I don't think you will answer at this point and other members have already become sick of our back and forth.
subee said:If Crusades is really a nurse, she can look it up. Roe v Wade decided at anything after 24 weeks is late-term; so 24 weeks and 1 day would be measured as "late term." I have a very easy life and no imagination but I know for sure that problems can arise later in a pregnancy (rarely and that's why a "late-term" abortion is exceedingly rare) so I'm not going to deny one to a women who didn't discover her baby is anacephalic until after 24 weeks. Obstetricians in rural areas are becoming a rare bird. I can see how people show up late.
It's called "later pregnancy " abortion
If you are a nurse you can read and understand that I wasn't even talking about that. I am not arguing against abortion.
What would make it necessary to medically cause fetal demise in later pregnancy of an anacephalic baby before removal to save or protect a woman's life or heath?
Nobody will answer so the discussion is redundant.
"Dials monitoring the reaction of a Fox News focus group during Tuesday's presidential debate showed independent voters overlapping with Republicans in support of former President Trump's immigration policies."
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Funny.
I do not trust any extrermist. Do you chose your "extreemist" on the basis if you agree with their "extreemism"? LOL