RNs tell your hospitals to hire new grads

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There are so many unemployed new grads out there that pretty soon we are going to be willing to work for minimum wage if things don't change soon. I bet hospitals would be willing to hire lots and lots of us at that price. That might even translate to loss of jobs and decreased wages for those experienced nurses already employed.

You might want to encourage your hospital to give new grads a chance instead of requiring experience for every job posting they have. Maybe be a little more enthusiastic about helping to train them.

Anyways, its worth thinking about.

Specializes in Peds/outpatient FP,derm,allergy/private duty.
Your rhetoric indicates your indeed in the category of the people that would purport to make be a bazillionaire.

I was going to write a pithy retort to that nonsense, but now I know it's probably not your fault. You didn't understand a word of it, so your subconscious mind took over and caused you to write a sentence filled with errors in an effort to subliminally broadcast what your ego won't allow you to do. The mind is a wonderful thing. Now you're talking about NPs and CRNAs and this that and the other thing having nothing to do with what we're talking about, .

"A degree does not "keep you relevant" YOU keep you relevant. The longer time away from graduation, the more similar the demands between the degrees as things move fast and getting faster every day."

My wildest dreams?? Are you sure? Please explain . . looking forward to hearing how you arrived at that one.

Specializes in LTC.

The longer the nurse had been working as a nurse during my clinicals, the more I learned. Kudos to all of you who love bedside nursing and share your hard earned knowledge with the newbies, even on a busy shift!! Some of us appreciate it. Don't you dare retire until you want to! You make me see what I can become in the future, how competent I can strive to be. My instructors kept saying I would learn more on my first year on the job than they could ever teach me, and they were right--but who do you learn FROM? The nurses who have experience. I think that the economy is everyone's problem: no jobs for new nurses, too much pressure for those with jobs, and a buyers market for companies. Thanks for all the support and tips and wisdom I have received--I'm a better nurse for it.

Specializes in being a Credible Source.
I was going to write a pithy retort to that nonsense...
Oh come on... half the reason I pass time here is to read pithy retorts :-) Really, a generalized dearth of pithiness abounds.
Oh come on... half the reason I pass time here is to read pithy retorts :-) Really a generalized dearth of pithiness abounds.[/quote']

LMAO

I love hearing how most RNs don't aspire to be APRNs....how glorious for our profession (and what is this based off of? speculation). Really, one can get an MSN online these days, and for not much money or free if employed with a hospital. Seriously - lets be realistic and not speculate.....there are many nurses who get fat/happy and lazy....they dont feel they need to further their education so be it. Thats their modis operanda (spelling?)....they can go their way I'm goin mine.

If you suggest that the market can't absorb more NPs, think again. Theres a real shortage - as primary care practitioners are in serious decline in numbers. NPs can help assuage the internal med MD problem. If you want to refute this then I give up.

Specializes in Oncology; medical specialty website.
LMAO

I love hearing how most RNs don't aspire to be APRNs....how glorious for our profession (and what is this based off of? speculation). Really, one can get an MSN online these days, and for not much money or free if employed with a hospital. Seriously - lets be realistic and not speculate.....there are many nurses who get fat/happy and lazy....they dont feel they need to further their education so be it. Thats their modis operanda (spelling?)....they can go their way I'm goin mine.

If you suggest that the market can't absorb more NPs, think again. Theres a real shortage - as primary care practitioners are in serious decline in numbers. NPs can help assuage the internal med MD problem. If you want to refute this then I give up.

Yeah. If you can't spell it, you probably shouldn't throw it out there. Let me help you out. It's "modus operandi." Something this fat/lazy diploma nurse didn't need to Google search to know how to spell.

Your posts are the best examples why those of use with experience fear for the future of nursing. So much to say, so little substance.

I love hearing how most RNs don't aspire to be APRNs....how glorious for our profession (and what is this based off of? speculation). Really, one can get an MSN online these days, and for not much money or free if employed with a hospital. Seriously - lets be realistic and not speculate.....

If you suggest that the market can't absorb more NPs, think again. Theres a real shortage - as primary care practitioners are in serious decline in numbers. NPs can help assuage the internal med MD problem. If you want to refute this then I give up.

It's not "speculation" -- it's the knowledge that, historically, only a small minority of US RNs ever pursue any graduate education. Why is that bad? What's so wrong, exactly, with being a good, competent bedside RN that everyone should "aspire" to something different????

And I never suggested that "the market can't absorb more NPs" -- I was responding to your suggestion that every nurse should want to become an advanced practice nurse, and questioning how on earth our healthcare system could absorb the millions of advanced practice nurses that would result if that actually happened.

(Realism, per your request:

"Nearly 13% of US nurses (375,000) and 2.5% (6,300) of Canadian RNs and have earned masters or doctoral degrees."

http://www.nursingadvocacy.org/faq/rn_facts.html

"Nurses with advanced degrees comprised 13.2 percent of all licensed RNs in 2008."

Initial Findings from the 2008 National Sample Survey of Registered Nurses, http://thefutureofnursing.org/resource/detail/registered-nurse-population-findings-2008-national-sample-survey-registered-nurses

"Which nursing group holds the largest number of graduates degrees?

* 14.2% of black nurses have master's or doctoral degrees, compared to 13.2% of Caucasian nurses."

http://www.minoritynurse.com/minority-nursing-statistics)

Specializes in Med/surg, Quality & Risk.
LMAO

I love hearing how most RNs don't aspire to be APRNs....how glorious for our profession (and what is this based off of? speculation). Really, one can get an MSN online these days, and for not much money or free if employed with a hospital. Seriously - lets be realistic and not speculate.....there are many nurses who get fat/happy and lazy....they dont feel they need to further their education so be it. Thats their modis operanda (spelling?)....they can go their way I'm goin mine.

If you suggest that the market can't absorb more NPs, think again. Theres a real shortage - as primary care practitioners are in serious decline in numbers. NPs can help assuage the internal med MD problem. If you want to refute this then I give up.

Oh cool, back to fat hating!

You know, it's really none of your concern what anyone else wants to do and doesn't want to do. Why the crap would you care - all the more work for you. Have at it, babe.

RN7776,

LMAO, you are silly.

The longer the nurse had been working as a nurse during my clinicals, the more I learned. Kudos to all of you who love bedside nursing and share your hard earned knowledge with the newbies, even on a busy shift!! Some of us appreciate it. Don't you dare retire until you want to! You make me see what I can become in the future, how competent I can strive to be. My instructors kept saying I would learn more on my first year on the job than they could ever teach me, and they were right--but who do you learn FROM? The nurses who have experience. I think that the economy is everyone's problem: no jobs for new nurses, too much pressure for those with jobs, and a buyers market for companies. Thanks for all the support and tips and wisdom I have received--I'm a better nurse for it.

Thank you for recognizing the experienced nurses who have helped

guide you in your nursing journey. Soon with more experience, you

will be the preceptor for other nurses and they will see you as a role model.

Your mentors stood where you are now and the kindness and professionalism

of other experienced peers helped them attain a greater competence and

level of care.

That's nursing, continuing to advance on our path while assisting nurses

who are at a different stage of their journey to grow.

Mentoring is essential, not everything is covered in the textbook.

You need miles under your feet and exposure to a variety of nursing situations to

feel comfortable in your role as nurse. Your mentors are walking many of

those miles with you, when you are no longer with a mentor/s, turn back to see how far in skills and abilities you have progressed......

Best wishes!

Specializes in Peds/outpatient FP,derm,allergy/private duty.
LMAOI love hearing how most RNs don't aspire to be APRNs....how glorious for our profession (and what is this based off of? speculation). Really, one can get an MSN online these days, and for not much money or free if employed with a hospital. Seriously - lets be realistic and not speculate.....there are many nurses who get fat/happy and lazy....they dont feel they need to further their education so be it. Thats their modis operanda (spelling?)....they can go their way I'm goin mine.

If you suggest that the market can't absorb more NPs, think again. Theres a real shortage - as primary care practitioners are in serious decline in numbers. NPs can help assuage the internal med MD problem. If you want to refute this then I give up.

Refute what?:confused: I have no idea what that means. Now your talking about the internal med MD problem.

I think bou have a condition called "post salad". Similar to neurolabamical one, lmao! If you think there are to many optometrists, well everybody else has read that book, too! We need those IV teams just try and refeet it! You can get special bunion shoes at Central Supply! (spelling? thankyouverymuch) I can get my NP because I can't sprint down the hall and that means there will temporary easing of the shortage of hospitalists? To that I say your nursing home will pay for those little plastic pill boxes with the days of the week printed on top!

I graduate in May and I have already been offered a job on the floor I am doing my practicum on. I really believe that if you are able to shine on the unit and do good work...rewards will follow :)

Specializes in OB.
I think bou have a condition called "post salad". Similar to neurolabamical one, lmao! If you think there are to many optometrists, well everybody else has read that book, too! We need those IV teams just try and refeet it! You can get special bunion shoes at Central Supply! (spelling? thankyouverymuch) I can get my NP because I can't sprint down the hall and that means there will temporary easing of the shortage of hospitalists? To that I say your nursing home will pay for

those little plastic pill boxes with the days of the week printed on top!

LMAO

(Now let's see how many try to correct this......)

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