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Was this program posted on the website ever? I am shocked it exists I never even saw it.

Not discouraging...encouraging....you arent facing the toughest challenge. You WILL get in somewhere....don't worry about that part.

Take your Zyprexa. Thanks.

Higher education is about patient care...not about dotting Is and crissing Ts Let me reference: Sx (suction), AOx3, c with a line over it....heck if I reference every nurse grammar shortcut I'd be Bill Gates.

Congrats...these stats are affirming my case. Theres 3 million RNs in this country and if 10% are APRNs do the math....thats a tons of APRN nurses. I am not suggesting every RN pursue masters heck half the RNs i know could care less but perhaps BSN for everyone? Gasp....shudder to think we could raise the standard.

Sometimes, getting a BSN, MSN etc will protect your job, keep you relevant etc. Would someone with a BS in Accounting or Finance rest on their laurels? no. Why would a nurse stop at an associates degree. "A degree does not "keep you relevant" YOU keep you relevant. The longer time away from graduation, the more similar the demands between the degrees as things move fast and getting faster every day." Ask a CRNA or Midwive what they can do when they go back to school for a few years...also as a Nurse Practitioner whose scope of practice includes prescribing priveledges...how their jobs change when they go beyond RN. See my point isn't to fan the flames of the "education doesnt matter" ADNs nor to push old nurses out of practice (heck if the economy were still cranking we'd need every solitary RN available)...it was to say evolve or become irrelevant. Like it or not this is social darwinism in the workplace and nursing isn't immune.

Your rhetoric indicates your indeed in the category of the people that would purport to make be a bazillionaire.

With some sort of fortitude, the "older nurses" would have gone back to school for MSN or beyond and be away from the bedside as a masters prepared nurse or better yet, AT the bedside. Not for nothing but, if I had a dime for every ADN nurse who refused to go back to school and just wanted to work forever and collect a check without acknowledging that nursing is like every other vertical I'd be a bazillionaire. Sometimes, getting a BSN, MSN etc will protect your job, keep you relevant etc. Would someone with a BS in Accounting or Finance rest on their laurels? no. Why would a nurse stop at an associates degree. Things change...evidence based practice didn't exist 30 yrs ago....why would a 30 yr "veteran" nurse not want to adapt. This is NOT directed at those that have...however floor nursing isnt something that is meant to be for people in their 60s/70s. Realistically, like it or not - expecting....heck, feeling entitled to work into your 60s/70s is a massive assumption.

I can confirm this after meeting with USAF, Army, Navy recruiters - all of them before graduation. They pretty much don't want new grads and the ones they take don't get nearly the incentives they used to get. For example the Navy used to offer 20-30k sign bonus now only 10k (and the recruiter said that may even go away). After taxes 7k is one months wages at some hospitals. If you do look military get some experience first.

Unemployment is common unfortunately...or thousands of applicants for hundreds of new graduate residency program positions.

Theres a rumor that there are thousands of applicants for a few hundred spots. This program is almost like applying to the California lottery lol.

Ok so, our primary care doctors (MASSIVE SHORTAGE) PAs or nurse practitioners can handle #1 (wait NPs ARE RNS), pharmacologic care? (i suppose you dont know about infusion nurses?)... If you are in denial that home health - the ultimate realm of the RN is not going to grow then god bless you. The doctors can't go into homes and provide skilled nursing care and the unlicensed personnel aren't qualified. Whos going to do it? I am so so frustrated with all the people who discount the importance nursing will play when fully 20% or more of the population becomes geriatric. Its astonishing.

In case your unaware, there is a system called Medicaid - pays $50 billion in claims in NY and $20+ billion in California. Sure reimbursements may be cut and cut again, but what sense does it make for lets say, an ER to take no reimbursement? They will take Medicaid over nothing. They will take the patients who need care with private insurance, with Medicare and Medicaid. The hard numbers don't lie...its not speculation - older nurses will have to leave the profession. The point here which you missed entirely is the mass exodus from nursing won't occur as the baby boomers retire - that ship sailed with the great recession. The poor baby boomers (not sarcasm - seriously how happy can one be when they wanted to retire and their investments tanked) will have to work until they are physically unable, or pass away. This is in all areas of employment. Half the greeters I see at Walmart these days are elderly for example! Read this HARD DATA from HRSA: "Average age of RNs climbed to 46.8 years, the highest average age since the first comparable report was published in 1980. Just over 41 percent of RNs were 50 years of age or older (33 percent in 2000 and 25 percent in 1980). Only 8 percent of RNs were under the age of 30, compared with 25 percent in 1980." This data is from 2004...albeit a little old. I digress seriously 41% of RNs at that time were 51 or older and 8% of RNs were under 30.....thats insane. These people didnt get younger up until 2011...people can discount whats coming, but its coming nonetheless. We arent vampires and there is no immortality in this life.

No disrespect at all meant here...just a joke. However I digress....theres precious few verticals in the business world where people can work into their 60s and 70s like nursing. Its one of the things that attracts people to the career...that being said there has to be some point where someone has to retire for physical reasons (arthritis, back, chronic disease pick your poison). Those who have put it off and are still physically able god bless them..theres no reason to fault someone for working!