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Ladies and Gents .I work in the ED and have a 4 year degree working toward masters.I am an RN with lots of certificates. TNCC,ENPC,PALS,ACLS, BLS,CHM and ect. I am sick of fighting with medical assist\and LVN on why they are not as good as RN's.Listen go get your BSN and get about 5 years of real exp.Then get all your certs,then and only then you will stop asking why medical asst and LVN s are not the same as a RN(especially BSN).

The movement toward hospitals only hiring RN with BSN is real and starting to take over the nation.All RN s with years on them go back get your BSN ( its usually only 1.5 years and its usually paid for)and then we can all advance our profession.

I had a MA and a student LVN fighting in the hospital who is better and why.Let me be blunt .A MA will not be in the hospital unless you work as a nurse aid\or lab draw.Your pay is between 9-12$ hour ,maybe more if you have a lot of exp.LVN will work in nursing homes,and very rarely in the hospital, if so in an outpt setting. They will make about 14-16 $hr. In some cities they may make more like 18-20 $ but its harder to come by).They have a license but must work under RN supervision!(this is state law in almost every state)

I respect each field ,but if you want the recognition as an RN and the money and everything else,go back to school , (preferably )a university ,spend about 40,000 thousand on nursing school and become a Registered nurse.Period!!!A RN in most states average 30$ hour and go up to 50$hr. (we will not even start with the NP salary and degree)which is around 50-65$ hour depending where you live and work.

Just like any other profession the more you go to school and the higher education level you acquire, the more opportunity. salary, authority and accountability you obtain.Its not just the medical field,its that is this way!! Its just about any other field also.!

It ****** me off that all these CNA\MA\pharm tech\PCA and ect lure folks in to believing they will be a medical professional that makes great money and become a nurse like person in 6-9 months is crazy.The new twist now is trying create 2 years degrees for MA s and pharmacy tech so they can say they have a degree.Listen if you really want to learn in a year or so go to LVN school or become a paramedic.They have more training and actually make a decent living. Paramedics have a two years degree now also.Which is another school tactic to make the field look great for people to state they have a degree.Its ok to work at what you want and be proud,but do not be bitter,to the RN s who put in years and thousands of dollars to become what they are as well.

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Why don't you tell us how you really feel?

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Specializes in Case mgmt., rehab, (CRRN), LTC & psych.
I am sick of fighting with medical assist\and LVN on why they are not as good as RN's.
Why fight with the medical assistant and LVN? It is a waste of energy that could be better utilized through the provision of patient care and working as a team. Instead of fighting with them and attempting to prove that they are "not as good as RNs," perhaps be a team player?
I had a MA and a student LVN fighting in the hospital who is better and why.
You, the RN, are not any better than the MA or LVN. Sorry, I know the truth can sometimes sting. Each individual is no better or worse than the next guy; however, our roles are different due to restrictions. It is time to stop it with this healthcare hierarchy mentality and pull together to do the very best job possible.

Personally, as an RN, I want and need CNAs, MAs, LVNs, paramedics, and other healthcare workers to work as a team for good patient outcomes.

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Specializes in Pediatrics, Emergency, Trauma.
Why fight with the medical assistant and LVN? It is a waste of energy that could be better utilized through the provision of patient care and working as a team. Instead of fighting with them and attempting to prove that they are "not as good as RNs," perhaps be a team player? You, the RN, are not any better than the MA or LVN. Sorry, I know the truth can sometimes sting. Each individual is no better or worse than the next guy; however, our roles are different due to restrictions. It is time to stop it with this healthcare hierarchy mentality and pull together to do the very best job possible.

Personally, as an RN, I want and need CNAs, MAs, LVNs, paramedics, and other healthcare workers to work as a team for good patient outcomes.

THIS. All day long...

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Specializes in Acute Care, Rehab, Palliative.

[i am sick of fighting with medical assist\and LVN on why they are not as good as RN's.]

You are not better because you are an RN. You have a different role but that does not make you better than anyone else.

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Ladies and Gents .I work in the ED and have a 4 year degree working toward masters.I am an RN with lots of certificates. TNCC,ENPC,PALS,ACLS, BLS,CHM and ect. I am sick of fighting with medical assist\and LVN on why they are not as good as RN's.Listen go get your BSN and get about 5 years of real exp.Then get all your certs,then and only then you will stop asking why medical asst and LVN s are not the same as a RN(especially BSN).

The movement toward hospitals only hiring RN with BSN is real and starting to take over the nation.All RN s with years on them go back get your BSN ( its usually only 1.5 years and its usually paid for)and then we can all advance our profession.

I had a MA and a student LVN fighting in the hospital who is better and why.Let me be blunt .A MA will not be in the hospital unless you work as a nurse aid\or lab draw.Your pay is between 9-12$ hour ,maybe more if you have a lot of exp.LVN will work in nursing homes,and very rarely in the hospital, if so in an outpt setting. They will make about 14-16 $hr. In some cities they may make more like 18-20 $ but its harder to come by).They have a license but must work under RN supervision!(this is state law in almost every state)

I respect each field ,but if you want the recognition as an RN and the money and everything else,go back to school , (preferably )a university ,spend about 40,000 thousand on nursing school and become a Registered nurse.Period!!!A RN in most states average 30$ hour and go up to 50$hr. (we will not even start with the NP salary and degree)which is around 50-65$ hour depending where you live and work.

You're sitting pretty high up on that horse of yours and its a long way down my friend.

So, in your eyes the BSN is THE best nurse of all?

MAs do NOT work under a nurses license in my State.

A university degree and spending $40K does not make one a better nurse...sorry.

You state you have respect for each field yet you basically bashed anyone who is not a BSN prepared nurse.

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Specializes in SICU, trauma, neuro.

Yes, THIS!!! Singing TheCommuter's praises :singing: I wish I could sit here all day long hitting the "like" button!! :up:

Why fight with the medical assistant and LVN? It is a waste of energy that could be better utilized through the provision of patient care and working as a team. Instead of fighting with them and attempting to prove that they are "not as good as RNs," perhaps be a team player? You, the RN, are not any better than the MA or LVN. Sorry, I know the truth can sometimes sting. Each individual is no better or worse than the next guy; however, our roles are different due to restrictions. It is time to stop it with this healthcare hierarchy mentality and pull together to do the very best job possible.

Personally, as an RN, I want and need CNAs, MAs, LVNs, paramedics, and other healthcare workers to work as a team for good patient outcomes.

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Smh. Just joined today and their first post..

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Those of us who scraped our pennies together and became LPNs and darn good ones at that, then finally became Associate Degree RNs several years later and now are looking at the most cost effective route to BSN while working full time and supporting a family...

might be just a tad offended by your condescending attitude.

By the way, when I was an LPN I respected the fact that I did not have the same education as an RN but also deserved and expected to be respected as a NURSE.

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Specializes in ER.

Most RNs do not average over 30 dollars an hour. Yes that's what some sites will tell you but most do not unless they live somewhere that they cannot afford to live on 25 dollars an hour.

Also, paramedics usually make less than LVNs and have more "back" breaking work. Most stretchers are heavy and most companies will not send lift assists. The length of time is just a tad bit longer if you include EMT cert and the occasional anatomy class. Including those, it was less than 18 months for my certification.

At the end, I tell people that it's apples and oranges when they compare nurses and paramedics. Both have their roles and both are healthcare, but an apple isn't an orange and an orange isn't an apple. They may have some overlapping characteristics but they aren't the same. Someone who wants to be an LVN or medical assistant should not go for paramedic if their heart isn't in it.

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Speak for yourself. This LPN makes over $30/hr, before shift diff. Weekend nights push me close to $40.

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Specializes in Intake, Home Care.

My ADN will not cost me 40,000 bc I'm going to a Comm College, not a university. But last time I checked, I take the same RN NCLEX as the 40,000 university. Does this mean that the girl next to me will be a better nurse? I thought it was more than book smarts. Oh and being a team player. No ones badge displays their university or GPA. Or how much their license costs.

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