Rant

[Palliative Care, DNP]

I'm not saying don't explain medications based on education. This man's whole education is medication. A tad difference.

[imintrouble, BSN, RN]

The rant would not be possible, if the alert and oriented x 4 pharmacist had voiced displeasure over an inappropriate verbal exchange with a nurse.

That simple.

[0.adamantite]

I have had doctors, veterinarians, pharmacists, laywers, physical assistants, nurses, and other educated professionals as my patients. I never assume that they understand everything. I'll explain things and ask how much detail they would like (for example I was explaining pain medication orders to a nurse patient and writing it on her board, and asked her - do you know what Q4H means, etc). I respect their judgement but I also let them know that I don't want to take advantage of their education or take for granted that they understand what I'm talking about.

I find that a lot of these patients are great partners in their care. Also, on admission, I always ask if a patient is diabetic.

However I would not have explained a Colace like that and would find it very bizarre to be on the receiving end of that explanation. I'm pretty laid back, though, so I might have raised an eyebrow but not taken it too seriously.

[LadyFree28, BSN, LPN, RN]

I have had doctors, veterinarians, pharmacists, laywers, physical assistants, nurses, and other educated professionals as my patients. I never assume that they understand everything. I'll explain things and ask how much detail they would like (for example I was explaining pain medication orders to a nurse patient and writing it on her board, and asked her - do you know what Q4H means, etc). ***I respect their judgement but I also let them know that I don't want to take advantage of their education or take for granted that they understand what I'm talking about.****

I find that a lot of these patients are great partners in their care. Also, on admission, I always ask if a patient is diabetic.

However I would not have explained a Colace like that and would find it very bizarre to be on the receiving end of that explanation. I'm pretty laid back, though, so I might have raised an eyebrow but not taken it too seriously.

To add: a lot of my teaching in the hospital fell by the wayside when they found out I was a nurse and took care of traumatic pts...as a trauma pt, I would've preferred more nursing teaching in the acute setting, regardless if I knew it or not; I was in pt mode.

I am grateful I never had to engage with buzzard baby talk; although I had a "no scripting clause" when I was there; I remembered that same script when I had clinicals at this particular hospital, so I nipped that in the bud...otherwise I was a perfect pt.

[amygarside]

I am sorry but nowhere in my pt's charts does it state what their profession or level of intelligence is? I treat all people with the same dignity and respect no matter if they have a college degree or not.

I totally agree with you NoviceRN10.

[ArtClassRN, ADN, RN]

Oh come on. I know we have to deal with rude know it all family members in real life, but we have to here too?

[NicuGal, MSN, RN]

We don't know what education our parents have. I speak to everyone in pretty simple terms ( not quite squishy poopy) unless they say to me, hey I'm a __________. Your FIL could have said something to the effect of what he did and has a good understanding of meds.

[roser13, ASN, RN]

We don't know what education our parents have. I speak to everyone in pretty simple terms ( not quite squishy poopy) unless they say to me, hey I'm a __________. Your FIL could have said something to the effect of what he did and has a good understanding of meds.

?? I think perhaps you meant "patients" not "parents"? Freudian slip??

[BrnEyedGirl, BSN, MSN, RN, APRN]

While I agree that the colace statement was inappropriate, I have no access to my patients insurance status, education or work history. Our admission staff I'm sure gets most of this, but only after the patient has been seen by a physician and I don't have access to that information.

[toomuchbaloney]

Didn't the guy speak up and say that he was a retired pharmacist?

[JustBeachyNurse, LPN]

?? I think perhaps you meant "patients" not "parents"? Freudian slip??

Nope she's a NICU nurse I doubt her premie population could comprehend the teaching so NICU/PICU/pedi nurses are usually teaching parents not patients.

[NicuGal, MSN, RN]

I meant parents..I work in NICU lol My patients may be genius but I don't know it lol