Radonda Vaught is charging $10,000 per speaking engagement.

[klone]

Or, $7,500 if you just want her virtually. Good to know that negligent homicide is such a lucrative endeavor. 
 

https://www.executivespeakers.com/speaker/radonda-vaught

[NurseGerard]

Moe12PMs said:

police officers and nurses because it is the only profession where you can go into work and kill someone

nursing school is police academy for white women, anecdotally lots of nurses marry and divorce cops 

also too Kentucky just had a bill signed into law prohibiting prosecution for medical errors and ky nurses org pushed hard and blew trumpets

it's weird because civil actions can still be filed and abuse/negligence aren't exempt, which were the charges and verdicts in this case, so what does the law do

also too cops literally get away with murder daily, are rarely prosecuted and let's stop with that

[toomuchbaloney]

Is there some belief that police officers and registered nurses occupy the same title of "professional" with similar levels of training, education and oversight?

[Moe12PMs, BSN, MSN]

toomuchbaloney said:

She's a killer. She was so negligent that she left an anxious woman paralyzed and suffocating. Her thoughts and analysis at this point would be completely irrelevant to me.  

Understood.

[londonflo]

Preventing Medication Errors | The National Academies Press

If you need a program, check this out. (I can't find the dvd of the teenager who died after a minimal procedure.) His mother and father were instrumental in getting the "Rapid Response" program activated. 

[chare]

londonflo said:

Preventing Medication Errors | The National Academies Press

[...]

Preventing Medication Errors is available as a free PDF download.

[Moe12PMs, BSN, MSN]

subee said:

Well, of course it isn't.  It's not comprable.  The officer was acquitted.  Vaught lost her license to practice.  One person was killed in the heat of a moment (if he was acquitted) and the other went out of her way to avoid every.single.opportunity.she had to pick up on her error when she wasn't even in a rushed situation.  She was an extra staff person for the day.  Have you read the files that have been posted here?

To me, it is comparable. Nursing and law enforcement when it comes to serving the public. The comparison is purely for discussion and what other nursing professionals think.

I used Officer Shelby because after being acquitted, she's teaching other officers about her experience. I think both Officer Shelby and RaDonda Vaught are both showing a lack of empathy for their victims by offering their expertise for their role in the death of a person for monetary compensation.

I'm not looking to argue. I use the comparison with my students and colleagues. I'm looking to understand. Why does being acquitted the deciding factor?  RaDonda Vaught "went out of her way to avoid every.single.opportunity. she had to pick up on her error." 100% agree. Now, why did Officer Shelby shoot a man after he had been tased? Why did she shoot when she feared he had a gun but did not see a gun? How are you fearful with four other officers by her side with guns and tasers drawn?

The other part of the discussion is why are nurses seen as the most trustworthy profession for 22 years in a row on the Gallup poll when medication errors cause far more deaths that police involved shootings (police hooting deaths 1,353 for 2023.) (I hit the databases hard and can only find medical errors at >200,000 in 2022 and those do not specify nurse errors or nursing medication errors). Yet, law enforcement has been up and down on the Gallup list since since 2001 without breaking the top 5. Overall, healthcare professionals kill more people than cops. 

https://news.gallup.com/poll/1654/honesty-ethics-professions.aspx

I have read the media reports on the matter. The following is the best I have read and has been cited in other articles. It is a good timeline.

https://www.freshrn.com/radonda-vaught-trial/

I'm not a fan of Mrs. Vaught. Never have been. She made nurses look careless. Her interviews since the conviction do not make her look better in my eyes. Very flippant. What I'm getting from replies is she does not address her errors when speaking. It's a "Poor Me" tour. I understand the anger. If she is not going to discuss her state-of-mind, thought process or emotional state when the error occurred, then I'm not interested.

[Wuzzie]

I read the second article and found it to be much more in line with the facts as stated in the various reports and then I read the comments. 🙄 "Darlene" took the author to task about alleged inaccuracies when, in fact, "Darlene" was the one who got her facts wrong. This is the problem. People just state what they've heard as being true without ever looking at the source information. It's maddening. 

[klone, MSN, RN]

Wuzzie said:

"Darlene" took the author to task about alleged inaccuracies when, in fact, "Darlene" was the one who got her facts wrong. This is the problem. People just state what they've heard as being true without ever looking at the source information. It's maddening. 

Yes!! This is what we keep experiencing, over and over again. Both IRL and right here on this site. People with an incomplete, flawed, or inaccurate understanding of the facts of the case, and then come on here with guns blazing, accusing us of being heartless assholes on a witch hunt. 

[mtmkjr, BSN]

Moe12PMs said:

I have read the media reports on the matter. The following is the best I have read and has been cited in other articles. It is a good timeline.

https://www.freshrn.com/radonda-vaught-trial/

This was an excellent article - very thorough and fair. 

Only one issue with it is the following statement in passive voice that "the error was noted" and that "Radonda immediately admitted what happened."

That might lead someone to think that Radonda is the one who caught the error and admitted it (and I have heard plenty of people repeating that bit of misinformation) when in fact it was the primary nurse who saw what was in the bag and asked her if that's what she had given to the patient. 

Radonda had no choice at that point but to admit to her fatal error.

At least the author didn't use that as a mitigating factor in Radonda's favor

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The error was noted at this time. RaDonda immediately admitted what happened and has never denied accountability.

 

 

[NurseGerard]

Moe12PMs said:

why are nurses seen as the most trustworthy profession

excellent question - it should be explored but folks are happy to just repeat it as fact

fwiw I think it became a stale cliche ages ago, but it has monetary and "good faith" value so there's lots of motivation to keep the mythology alive 

it's also important to understand the roots of modern nursing in Victorian England when the sun never set on their empire and they were subjugating / slaughtering indigenous people especially in Australia and New Zealand at the time

racism is baked in to modern nursing, and this is one way it plays out - a nice white female nurse couldn't possibly harm a patient! how can you even think that? any of us could make that same med error! and anyway the system is responsible etc etc etc

back to your question about most trusted - whoever responds to that poll (which is a whole other story) responds with the image in mind of a nice white lady - because among other things the public really doesn't understand what nurses "do"

as for cops and nurses - both were viable career options with upward mobility without a college degree

how many children of wealth grew up to become nurses?

[NurseGerard]

this is a good intro to what I touched on above

The Racist Lady With the Lamp

[Tenebrae, BSN, RN]

Moe12PMs said:

What about the police officer?

which one?