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Or, $7,500 if you just want her virtually. Good to know that negligent homicide is such a lucrative endeavor.
klone said:The Son of Sam Law. I'd be curious to know how this navigates that.
Was likewise curious some time back during a previous discussion and looked into it (minimally); it appears these laws have faced legal challenges over the years; a challenge of the original law in NY made it to the Supreme Court and was found to be unconstitutional at least in part on the grounds of violating 1st Amendment rights. I don't particularly get that--seems like there's a difference between having speech restricted and having the ability to get paid for particular speech restricted (?) but I haven't done a deeper dive.
klone said:Okay, one thing I will say that the facility could have done differently to have prevented this from happening - they could have required 3 letters before pulling up the override list, instead of just 2. The facility I most recently came from required 3 letters. I'm assuming that's a facility-dependent thing. If so, then VUH could have required that.
That's not to say that I believe VUH bears any culpability in Charlene Murphey's death.
How coincidental that this article just came through my feed this morning
Caroline Strazis said:check in with our teams after this incident
that's a good move, definitely worth talking about to understand
once we understood the details in March 2022 my closest circle of colleagues and I came to the same conclusion of *** - all of my Black colleagues noted how closely their every action is routinely scrutinized so their practice has to be tight always and this was just beyond imagining
Caroline Strazis said:My executives asked all of the nurse leaders in my organization to check in with our teams after this incident... I ran a radiology department, my staff knew how negligent she was and were unbothered by the conviction.
I did the same with my L&D team. I hope I impressed upon them the importance of always always always looking at the label.
I can understand the outrage. If I was the patient's family member, I would question the reasons for it.
I'd be interesting in hearing from the victim patient's family. They would definitely get speaking fees. I would find their experience and advocacy having a far greater impact on healthcare professionals. The victim's family may not have any healthcare experience. As nurses, when the death happened, we knew what questions to ask. Unless you have a nurse or physician in the family, victim's families do not know what to ask. Their perspective would be far more impactful.
I am always on the look out for speakers for our facility engagements. I have had nurse speakers who were addicts and were paid fees. It was extremely beneficial. They told their experiences of what happened and the consequence of their addiction. One nurse had developed an opioid habit after becoming a nurse. No previous history of abuse. The other nurse had developed addiction after an injury. Most importantly, we learned how they bypassed the system and went undetected. Both also explain their experience with the RAMP programs they went thru. Both were fired. One lost her license. She is now an addiction specialist. The other got it back after 4(?) years and works in case management. Listening to what she had to do to get her license back was sobering.
As far as Ms. Vaught speaking, the nursing and healthcare quality industry would want to hear what she has to say. Personally, I want to know how and why she bypassed all the signs telling her to stop. I also have questions about the safety culture at Vanderbilt University Medical Center.
I do not think her speaking is worth $10K. Maybe $1K at most. I could see higher if she was speaking at a corporate event. Based on what I am reading, to looks like she has close to $30,000+ in legal fees and fines. This does not include civil lawsuits. - https://www.newschannel5.com/news/supporters-help-pay-fines-former-vandy-nurse-radonda-vaught-owed-to-state The money may go towards those fees.
So I do have a question. If a police officer, who was acquitted of manslaughter charges in the fatal shooting of an unarmed man. Then goes on to teach a class to other LEOs called "Surviving the Aftermath of a Critical Incident" that discusses..."the challenges that I face after my critical incident; the challenges that my husband and I were not prepared for." The officer then also goes on to explain, "So I take what I learned and developed what I call tools and I pass that on to other officers so maybe they can be better prepared to deal with a critical incident." - https://abcnews.go.com/US/protest-erupts-critical-incident-class-taught-oklahoma-officer/story?id=57448147
Is this OK? Is this as repulsive?
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The Son of Sam Law. I'd be curious to know how this navigates that.