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Or, $7,500 if you just want her virtually. Good to know that negligent homicide is such a lucrative endeavor.
Moe12PMs said:I can understand the outrage. If I was the patient's family member, I would question the reasons for it.
I'd be interesting in hearing from the victim patient's family. They would definitely get speaking fees. I would find their experience and advocacy having a far greater impact on healthcare professionals. The victim's family may not have any healthcare experience. As nurses, when the death happened, we knew what questions to ask. Unless you have a nurse or physician in the family, victim's families do not know what to ask. Their perspective would be far more impactful.
I am always on the look out for speakers for our facility engagements. I have had nurse speakers who were addicts and were paid fees. It was extremely beneficial. They told their experiences of what happened and the consequence of their addiction. One nurse had developed an opioid habit after becoming a nurse. No previous history of abuse. The other nurse had developed addiction after an injury. Most importantly, we learned how they bypassed the system and went undetected. Both also explain their experience with the RAMP programs they went thru. Both were fired. One lost her license. She is now an addiction specialist. The other got it back after 4(?) years and works in case management. Listening to what she had to do to get her license back was sobering.
As far as Ms. Vaught speaking, the nursing and healthcare quality industry would want to hear what she has to say. Personally, I want to know how and why she bypassed all the signs telling her to stop. I also have questions about the safety culture at Vanderbilt University Medical Center.
I do not think her speaking is worth $10K. Maybe $1K at most. I could see higher if she was speaking at a corporate event. Based on what I am reading, to looks like she has close to $30,000+ in legal fees and fines. This does not include civil lawsuits. - https://www.newschannel5.com/news/supporters-help-pay-fines-former-vandy-nurse-radonda-vaught-owed-to-state The money may go towards those fees.
So I do have a question. If a police officer, who was acquitted of manslaughter charges in the fatal shooting of an unarmed man. Then goes on to teach a class to other LEOs called "Surviving the Aftermath of a Critical Incident" that discusses..."the challenges that I face after my critical incident; the challenges that my husband and I were not prepared for." The officer then also goes on to explain, "So I take what I learned and developed what I call tools and I pass that on to other officers so maybe they can be better prepared to deal with a critical incident." - https://abcnews.go.com/US/protest-erupts-critical-incident-class-taught-oklahoma-officer/story?id=57448147
Is this OK? Is this as repulsive?
Well, of course it isn't. It's not comprable. The officer was acquitted. Vaught lost her license to practice. One person was killed in the heat of a moment (if he was acquitted) and the other went out of her way to avoid every.single.opportunity.she had to pick up on her error when she wasn't even in a rushed situation. She was an extra staff person for the day. Have you read the files that have been posted here?
Moe12PMs said:I can understand the outrage. If I was the patient's family member, I would question the reasons for it.
I'd be interesting in hearing from the victim patient's family. They would definitely get speaking fees. I would find their experience and advocacy having a far greater impact on healthcare professionals. The victim's family may not have any healthcare experience. As nurses, when the death happened, we knew what questions to ask. Unless you have a nurse or physician in the family, victim's families do not know what to ask. Their perspective would be far more impactful.
I am always on the look out for speakers for our facility engagements. I have had nurse speakers who were addicts and were paid fees. It was extremely beneficial. They told their experiences of what happened and the consequence of their addiction. One nurse had developed an opioid habit after becoming a nurse. No previous history of abuse. The other nurse had developed addiction after an injury. Most importantly, we learned how they bypassed the system and went undetected. Both also explain their experience with the RAMP programs they went thru. Both were fired. One lost her license. She is now an addiction specialist. The other got it back after 4(?) years and works in case management. Listening to what she had to do to get her license back was sobering.
As far as Ms. Vaught speaking, the nursing and healthcare quality industry would want to hear what she has to say. Personally, I want to know how and why she bypassed all the signs telling her to stop. I also have questions about the safety culture at Vanderbilt University Medical Center.
I do not think her speaking is worth $10K. Maybe $1K at most. I could see higher if she was speaking at a corporate event. Based on what I am reading, to looks like she has close to $30,000+ in legal fees and fines. This does not include civil lawsuits. - https://www.newschannel5.com/news/supporters-help-pay-fines-former-vandy-nurse-radonda-vaught-owed-to-state The money may go towards those fees.
So I do have a question. If a police officer, who was acquitted of manslaughter charges in the fatal shooting of an unarmed man. Then goes on to teach a class to other LEOs called "Surviving the Aftermath of a Critical Incident" that discusses..."the challenges that I face after my critical incident; the challenges that my husband and I were not prepared for." The officer then also goes on to explain, "So I take what I learned and developed what I call tools and I pass that on to other officers so maybe they can be better prepared to deal with a critical incident." - https://abcnews.go.com/US/protest-erupts-critical-incident-class-taught-oklahoma-officer/story?id=57448147
Is this OK? Is this as repulsive?
The nurses with addictions spoke about their addiction and recovery. In your scenario, the police officer is speaking about recovering from the aftermath. These scenarios are not assigning blame against their employer while skirting responsibility.
From her advertisements, Vaught is blaming the system for the patients death and claiming to be a victim. The few people here who have heard her speak confirm that this is what her talks are about.
THAT is what makes her speeches so repulsive.
Moe12PMs said:I'd be interesting in hearing from the victim patient's family.
it's difficult to re-live such trauma especially in front of a crowd and I wouldn't ask it of anybody - the folks who do so willingly are taking on a huge task at great personal cost and I honor them they have lots we need to hear
which brings me to this situation - the former nurse suffered trauma and I can't imagine how that hit so ideally she's getting some kind of therapeutic support as well as from close family and friends
I think there are plenty of folks eager to exploit her, like the speakers bureau and tiktok nurses and the orgs that hire her
I've watched some of her stump speech and interviews they're easy to find and there's lots on YouTube
I learned to ask "whose needs are being met?" and at this point I haven't seen or heard anything that supports good practice or benefits the public
Moe12PMs said:Based on what I am reading, to looks like she has close to $30,000+ in legal fees and fines. This does not include civil lawsuits
all taken care of long ago via online funding including over $30k in less than 48 hours total around $250k
the family settled with vandy under nondisclosure, the former nurse hasn't been sued
this is the comeback tour
NurseGerard said:all taken care of long ago via online funding including over $30k in less than 48 hours total around $250k
the family settled with vandy under nondisclosure, the former nurse hasn't been sued
this is the comeback tour
Thank you for information. I vaguely remember the online funding campaign. I did not know it raised $250K. Additionally, I did not know the family has not taken civil action against her. I knew about the settlement with Vanderbilt.
NurseGerard said:that's not part of the speech
Then I have no use to hear what she has to say. I want full disclosure for my money.
NurseGerard said:it's difficult to re-live such trauma especially in front of a crowd and I wouldn't ask it of anybody - the folks who do so willingly are taking on a huge task at great personal cost and I honor them they have lots we need to hear
which brings me to this situation - the former nurse suffered trauma and I can't imagine how that hit so ideally she's getting some kind of therapeutic support as well as from close family and friends
I think there are plenty of folks eager to exploit her, like the speakers bureau and tiktok nurses and the orgs that hire her
I've watched some of her stump speech and interviews they're easy to find and there's lots on YouTube
I learned to ask "whose needs are being met?" and at this point I haven't seen or heard anything that supports good practice or benefits the public
I understand completely that the family may not want to speak of the trauma of the event. This is something they may consider if they are EVER ready. I have heard family members who have come to speak to nurses and healthcare professionals about their experiences and its extremely powerful.
Up until yesterday, I had only heard her on podcasts. She did not do herself any favors as I've listened to her. Never addresses her errors. On one, the joking around was just sad. Exploited, possibly. But I do not get that vibe.
Moe12PMs said:Up until yesterday, I had only heard her on podcasts. She did not do herself any favors as I've listened to her. Never addresses her errors. On one, the joking around was just sad. Exploited, possibly. But I do not get that vibe.
Did you hear about her "healing" cruise to Costa Rica?
FiremedicMike said:The nurses with addictions spoke about their addiction and recovery. In your scenario, the police officer is speaking about recovering from the aftermath. These scenarios are not assigning blame against their employer while skirting responsibility.
From her advertisements, Vaught is blaming the system for the patients death and claiming to be a victim. The few people here who have heard her speak confirm that this is what her talks are about.
THAT is what makes her speeches so repulsive.
Everyone is telling me that she does not discuss her errors. Then I am not interested.
Her podcast appearances do not make her look any better. Some of the banter makes me think, "Well, the patient can't do that with her family anymore. Why are you laughing?"
I use the comparison to police officers and nurses because it is the only profession where you can go into work and kill someone. Nurses and police deal with people having the worst day of their lives, people in mental health crisis, people in distress. I used Officer Shelby but one could used Officer Kim Potter or Officer Amber Guyger. I use this comparison with students and colleagues. It's see where the lines people are at based on their perceptions of each profession and for discussion as why these two professions have such different public perceptions. Office Potter would have been a better comparison. She thought she pulled her taser. She understood her error immediately. She was convicted. To my knowledge, she is not teaching classes or a paid speaker. Officer Amber Guyger is serving a 10 year sentence.
Wuzzie said:Did you hear about her "healing" cruise to Costa Rica?
And becoming a stand up comedian. (I threw up in my mouth a little bit.)
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She's a killer. She was so negligent that she left an anxious woman paralyzed and suffocating. Her thoughts and analysis at this point would be completely irrelevant to me.