Good grief. America's Frontline Doctors, a group of quacks who claim to know more than actual experts are pushing the use of ineffective parasite med to prevent and or treat COVID.
On a personal note, my hubby works for a farm store and has overheard customers explaining to each other how to dose animal wormer for people. This is in a community that is anti-mask, anti-vaccine, let's just all get infected. Up until, you know, they need hospitalization .
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3 minutes ago, RKM2021 said:
I did not say I recommend it. How did we get so far off topic?? She posted they were Quacks and I just wanted to post that there was some misinformation with her post. And that there was maybe something to the one given in hospitals. Yet when when I point that part out, it now turns to well it should not be recommended.. I know that! Didn't any one debate in high school. Stay on topic.
There are quacks who are promoting unproven home remedies to unvaccinated Americans. It's a dangerous practice that shouldn't be entertained or elevated.
3 minutes ago, RKM2021 said:
Remember when the vaccine passport was a conspiracy theory?
No...please explain and equate that sentiment to the prescribing of unproven treatments for virus in a pandemic.
There are quacks who are promoting unproven home remedies to unvaccinated Americans. It's a dangerous practice that shouldn't be entertained or elevated.
No...please explain and equate that sentiment to the prescribing of unproven treatments for virus in a pandemic.
I don't know how that got posted here. I can link were I posted that comment. That comment has nothing to do with this thread and I don't understand why my post in another thread are showing up here. But thank you
And you are right there are quacks pushing home remedies, but she was talking about the Judge that told that hospital to give the patient that drug. That was not a home remedy, that was medicine from the hospital.
Really the CDC recommends all pregeant women get the vaccine, yet before Pfizer and Moderna updated there fact sheets this past week. I have the previous fact sheets by the way. Both of them stated under pregnant or breastfeeding women... No STUDIES have been done on this and we can not state whether or not the vaccine is safe for pregnant women. Pfizer updated their fact sheet on August 23 and it no longer says that, but the one before it did. And Moderna updated their fact sheet on August 27 and it no longer says that, but the one right before it did. And by your statement since no studies have been done on pregnant women, shouldn't they not be recommending it then?
And by the way all I said was they were looking into it. I had already agreed that they should not be recommending it in past replies.
Remember when the vaccine passport was a conspiracy theory?
And what's wrong with a vaccine passport?
You carry a driver's license, don't you? Credit cards?
Unless you are getting tattooed on the forehead or branded, I don't know of any other way to tell if someone is vaccinated.
These are precautionary methods for the good of everyone!
How is it certain types of people don't recognize their pathologies despite on a daily basis, constant reminders of their nature? The rejection of most people, acceptance into a limited like minded group, difference of opinion from the majority, bristling at normal people's views, the anger, the lack of empathy, inconsiderateness, etc etc.
It's not like you have to work hard to see yourself properly. Watch a few good movies and the dubious characters are well depicted with their usual fates. If you identify with a particular type, that's likely to be you and you can see your future outcomes. It never ends well.
Not suggesting that anyone conforms to the masses but gaining some insight might be very helpful to a better future.
What do you gain from the contrariness? Isn't it bad enough currently with the pandemic that you don't want the additional complications of idiots killing themselves with veterinary drugs? The Bleach wasn't enough?
And the fact is that obviously they are very concerned about Covid, or they wouldn't be taking such drastic steps! The problem similar to people that hang out with criminals etc, is that they are drawn into the idiocy of the Jonestown syndrome!
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44 minutes ago, RKM2021 said:
Really the CDC recommends all pregeant women get the vaccine, yet before Pfizer and Moderna updated there fact sheets this past week. I have the previous fact sheets by the way. Both of them stated under pregnant or breastfeeding women... No STUDIES have been done on this and we can not state whether or not the vaccine is safe for pregnant women. Pfizer updated their fact sheet on August 23 and it no longer says that, but the one before it did. And Moderna updated their fact sheet on August 27 and it no longer says that, but the one right before it did. And by your statement since no studies have been done on pregnant women, shouldn't they not be recommending it then?
And by the way all I said was they were looking into it. I had already agreed that they should not be recommending it in past replies.
Actually studies on pregnant women are underway and are promising. Babies are being born with detected antibodies already! Anecdotally, my daughter took the vax when pregnant and did a-OK. And this is in TX where COVID is rampant.
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I am all for vaccine passports unless and until this is all under control.
Those who refuse to vax? Fine no cruises, no Disneyland, none of that. We can't afford superspreader situations. And you STILL have a choice. As these places are not essential like grocery stories. You gotta play to win!
I did not say I recommend it. How did we get so far off topic?? She posted they were Quacks and I just wanted to post that there was some misinformation with her post. And that there was maybe something to the one given in hospitals. Yet when when I point that part out, it now turns to well it should not be recommended.. I know that! Didn't any one debate in high school. Stay on topic.
You stated that Hospitals were using the human form. I simply posted for the sake of anyone reading this thread that the manufacturer of this medication states that it should NOT be used to treat Covid. So yes, it IS used in hospitals-to treat parasites. Any hospital using Ivermectin outside of the structure of the clinical trials is going against the manufacturer's specific instructions. Seems like a very slippery slope with regard to liability.
Original Poster here and I did label "America’s Frontline Doctors" as quacks because: they are associated with a website that offers a medical consult that allows the user to pick whether they want HCQ or Ivermectin; they direct the user to a source with whom they seem to have a business connection. Does this sound like safe medical care to you?
"America’s Frontline Doctors" also have a record of casting doubt on the efficacy of approved, effective vaccines.
It seems shady to me to direct people away from proven therapy to nonapproved and make a few bucks at the same time.
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