Good grief. America's Frontline Doctors, a group of quacks who claim to know more than actual experts are pushing the use of ineffective parasite med to prevent and or treat COVID.
On a personal note, my hubby works for a farm store and has overheard customers explaining to each other how to dose animal wormer for people. This is in a community that is anti-mask, anti-vaccine, let's just all get infected. Up until, you know, they need hospitalization .
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On 8/29/2021 at 8:10 AM, DaisyRN said:
Actually Ivermectin is a FDA approved medication. Using it for COVID would be an off label use as are many other medications.
I wouldn’t recommend someone get it from Tractor Supply as they would likely not know the correct dose or what else might be in it. But nonetheless, Ivermectin IS approved for human use.
For what purpose? I am curious. I retract my non FDA approval statement. But is it FDA approved as a preventative for worsening effects of COVID?
For what purpose? I am curious. I retract my non FDA approval statement. But is it FDA approved as a preventative for worsening effects of COVID?
Statement from the manufacturer of Ivermectin:
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KENILWORTH, N.J., Feb. 4, 2021 – Merck (NYSE: MRK), known as MSD outside the United States and Canada, today affirmed its position regarding use of ivermectin during the COVID-19 pandemic. Company scientists continue to carefully examine the findings of all available and emerging studies of ivermectin for the treatment of COVID-19 for evidence of efficacy and safety. It is important to note that, to-date, our analysis has identified:
No scientific basis for a potential therapeutic effect against COVID-19 from pre-clinical studies;
No meaningful evidence for clinical activity or clinical efficacy in patients with COVID-19 disease, and;
A concerning lack of safety data in the majority of studies.
We do not believe that the data available support the safety and efficacy of ivermectin beyond the doses and populations indicated in the regulatory agency-approved prescribing information.
The issue isn't whether the drug has value. The issue is antivaxxers treating themselves with veterinary medicine based upon dosing guidelines from social media accounts.
Your statement that you've been infected twice in 18 months or so suggests that natural immunity isn't long term. Previously infected individuals are encouraged to vaccinate.
Yet most new outlets don't report this part of it. I even saw another post were a nurse states that she can't believe a Judge ordered a hospital to give it to a man on deaths door, when the FDA states it is not safe. She knows full well that they are talking about the over the counter version of the medicine, meant for horses, as I have read the full FDA warning myself. If anyone has a different statement from the FDA about the one that comes from the hospital and not the one intended for horses, please post it. I have not seen it. But this is part of the misinformation because I have found dozens of news station articles on that ruling and how it is against FDA warnings not to take the drug and they even show a picture of the medicine for horses in the article about the Judge ordering the hospital to give it, when this is not completely true. They are not giving that man the one meant for horses and the news media should not be that stupid that they don't know that.
She knows full well that they are talking about the over the counter version of the medicine, meant for horses, as I have read the full FDA warning myself. If anyone has a different statement from the FDA about the one that comes from the hospital and not the one intended for horses, please post it. I have not seen it. But this is part of the misinformation because I have found dozens of news station articles on that ruling and how it is against FDA warnings not to take the drug and they even show a picture of the medicine for horses in the article about the Judge ordering the hospital to give it, when this is not completely true. They are not giving that man the one meant for horses and the news media should not be that stupid that they don't know that.
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4 minutes ago, RKM2021 said:
Hospitals do use it for human use. Here is a Pub Med. Gov article title. Are they Qaucks as well?? See below the tile name
Use of Ivermectin Is Associated With Lower Mortality in Hospitalized Patients With Coronavirus Disease 2019: The Ivermectin in COVID Nineteen Study
The drug us under investigation for that purpose but there are no administration guidelines or dosing schedules identified. Recommendations to take this drug or administeringit to patient world brew irresponsible and could invite punitive attention from your state board of nursing.
I grew up on a large working farm ad we used Ivermectin to get rid if intestinal worms in cows, goats and horses. I do remember it had a huge margin for safety since it was OTC use, Imagine that with the high number of diseases caused by parasites around worldwide I don't doubt it has its uses, just not against viruses.
I sincerely thank you for the information though!?
You forgot to add the pesticides and insecticides that change the crops in areas where it was hard to grow corns, potatoes, etc.
The drug us under investigation for that purpose but there are no administration guidelines or dosing schedules identified. Recommendations to take this drug or administeringit to patient world brew irresponsible and could invite punitive attention from your state board of nursing.
I didn't say it should be used, her headline was Pushed by quacks, use of Ivermectin is poisoning people. Knowing full well the one that harms people is one over the counter meant for horses. So I showed a resource that is accepted that states they were studying it, that is not considered a quack that is all.
Hospitals do use it for human use. Here is a Pub Med. Gov article title. Are they Qaucks as well?? See below the tile name
Use of Ivermectin Is Associated With Lower Mortality in Hospitalized Patients With Coronavirus Disease 2019: The Ivermectin in COVID Nineteen Study
Statement by the maker of Ivermectin:
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KENILWORTH, N.J., Feb. 4, 2021 – Merck (NYSE: MRK), known as MSD outside the United States and Canada, today affirmed its position regarding use of ivermectin during the COVID-19 pandemic. Company scientists continue to carefully examine the findings of all available and emerging studies of ivermectin for the treatment of COVID-19 for evidence of efficacy and safety. It is important to note that, to-date, our analysis has identified:
No scientific basis for a potential therapeutic effect against COVID-19 from pre-clinical studies;
No meaningful evidence for clinical activity or clinical efficacy in patients with COVID-19 disease, and;
A concerning lack of safety data in the majority of studies.
We do not believe that the data available support the safety and efficacy of ivermectin beyond the doses and populations indicated in the regulatory agency-approved prescribing information.
For now it should only be given in the drug trials. It should not be prescribed for patients at hospitals at which the prescribing physician DOES NOT HAVE PRIVILEGES, nor should it be prescribed by physicians who have neither seen nor treated/examined the patient, nor should judges be compelling doctors to order medicines or treatments which go against the doctor's medical judgment and manufacturer's instructions and for patients who are not enrolled in drug trials.
Currently the recommended use for Ivermectin in hospitals is for treatment of scabies and other listed parasites.
For now it should only be given in the drug trials. It should not be prescribed for patients at hospitals at which the prescribing physician DOES NOT HAVE PRIVILEGES, nor should it be prescribed by physicians who have neither seen nor treated/examined the patient, nor should judges be compelling doctors to order medicines or treatments which go against the doctor's medical judgment and manufacturer's instructions and for patients who are not enrolled in drug trials.
Currently the recommended use for Ivermectin in hospitals is for treatment of scabies and other listed parasites.
I did not say I recommend it. How did we get so far off topic?? She posted they were Quacks and I just wanted to post that there was some misinformation with her post. And that there was maybe something to the one given in hospitals. Yet when when I point that part out, it now turns to well it should not be recommended.. I know that!!! Didn't any one debate in high school. Stay on topic.
Do you notice how it's mostly right wingers who are always pushing the conspiracy theories etc? 99% of them probably?
Who are the people gullible enough to fall repeatedly for these stupid assertions that actually sometimes prove fatal? How many antivaxxers and mask avoiders have been seriously compromised and are now inundating the internet with their videos of platitudes?
I wonder if the situation was reversed, would they feel as sorry for us as we do for them? I doubt they would!
Remember when the vaccine passport was a conspiracy theory?
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For what purpose? I am curious. I retract my non FDA approval statement. But is it FDA approved as a preventative for worsening effects of COVID?