President Biden thread

39 minutes ago, Beerman said:

I thought this was the Biden thread?

Its telling how little talk about him there is.  That's pretty much how he won....he's not Trump.  People are so unenthusiastic about him, and cant come up with much he has actually accomplished. 

 

 

Just as you said Trump's accomplishments are easily found, so are Biden's.  We've discussed, if not in this thread other threads of his infrastructure plan and his covid stimulus, his work with covid, his ending the ban on transgendered military personnel just to name a few of his accomplishments that we've discussed.  

I will give you this, and I said it before, whenever you've criticized Biden and the answer is to criticize Trump I find that lame.  But I find that us discussing Obama lame as well.   

I'm not buying that you're bringing up Obama was an innocent agreement with the poster.  It was the old "but your side does it too......" tit for tat without discussion the topic.  (I used to give poor Spidey's Mom such grief because she did this all the time.)

All of us have the same tactic.  LOL

6 hours ago, nursej22 said:

I think the meme of able bodied people preferring to stay home and collect unemployment is a false flag. Do some people abuse the system? Of course,  but there are multiple reasons for people not returning, and they vary from region to region. In my area, childcare is a huge barrier. Schools are not completely open, and we continue to have positive cases meaning children and their care takers have to isolate/quarantine 10 to 14 days with each occurrence. And lot of the minimum wage jobs are part-time with no benefits. Gee, if I'm a single mom with three kids part-time at Burger Queen do I say good bye to 1/3 of my paycheck and pray nobody gets sick?   

I hear you.  I'm mainly talking about people that aren't returning to their jobs or similar jobs that are readily available.  If this is how you made your living pre-pandemic, this is how you can make your living again.

That said a lot of those people aren't minimum wage workers returning to minimum wage jobs, they are middle class people with families and bills to pay and their income is no long available.  It's just human nature when your income has disappeared and his not coming back to go with the option that pays you the most.

BTW, if you're a mom with three kids working at Burger King there you might get earned income credit and pay no taxes, get food stamps, free school lunches, options for Medicaid, etc. etc.   I believe in the safety net.  But I get it.  

6 minutes ago, Tweety said:

I hear you.  I'm mainly talking about people that aren't returning to their jobs or similar jobs that are readily available.  If this is how you made your living pre-pandemic, this is how you can make your living again.

That said a lot of those people aren't minimum wage workers returning to minimum wage jobs, they are middle class people with families and bills to pay and their income is no long available.  It's just human nature when your income has disappeared and his not coming back to go with the option that pays you the most.

BTW, if you're a mom with three kids working at Burger King there you might get earned income credit and pay no taxes, get food stamps, free school lunches, options for Medicaid, etc. etc.   I believe in the safety net.  But I get it.  

Some of those people (lots really) have children at home who cannot stay by themselves.  

8 minutes ago, toomuchbaloney said:

Some of those people (lots really) have children at home who cannot stay by themselves.  

Yes.  J22 said that in her post.  A good number of states are having options now for in-person schools.  So if there was no issue prior to covid there shouldn't be now, unless there is no option to send the kids back to school which I acknowledge would be difficult.  

13 minutes ago, Beerman said:

How many?  And, it's been going on over a year, right?

I imagine that there are a lot of people with school aged children that can't be left alone.  But like I said schools are reopening as they just have in California, so it might be time revisit the idea.

Schools in some areas of the country have been closed a long time.

Millennials I think are less likely than their latch key parents to raise latch key children themselves out of safety concerns.  

1 hour ago, Beerman said:

How many?  And, it's been going on over a year, right?

How many? Didn't you read or listen to any of the analysts who discussed the phenomenon? Yes, we've been struggling with this pandemic for over a year.  Lots of people probably died because the federal response was so corrupt and incompetent for most of that year.  At least the current administration doesn't run all of the science messaging through a political office like the last one did. 

It ain’t so simple. Schools are not universally open, nor are they necessarily still offering the after-school options that fill in until parents get off work. A school day is not as long as a work day plus travel. That’s why daycares usually stayed open til at least an hour past a standard work day and opened an hour earlier. 

My area didn't have enough daycare for workers before the pandemic, and they have even fewer now, because they are limiting numbers, and staff continue to have to quarantine due to exposures. 

And yes, single parents have access to safety net programs, but SNAP (food stamps) was cut back during the previous administration, and when you have income your benefits go down. Housing is also a big issue around here. Lots of people owe back rent, so lots of unemployment goes to that. Food stamps and Medicaid don't pay the rent. 

When I went to school in England, there was something called a Creche that the local mothers set up. They all contributed to a communal space generally provided by the local council and moms who weren't working did the child care and I think the working moms paid a bit more. I was dating an older mom which is how I found out. 

Covid vaccinated kids and parents should set up something similar until things normalize etc. Just a thought? 

44 minutes ago, Beerman said:

They have their own brand of propaganda.

For example, Harris kissing her husband in front of reporters, while outside and both wearing a mask.

Pelosi giving a speech outside, wearing a mask.

That's what you call propaganda? ?