President Biden thread

17 minutes ago, Daisy4RN said:

  They along with Twitter, and facebook etc are very left/liberal bias (kicking people who are Conservative off, not allowing the different opinions etc).

Believe it or not Conservatives want what is best for everyone too! It is exactly bc of that programming bias that you think otherwise.

People get kicked off of social media platforms for espousing dangerous, illegal actions. When they proclaim election fraud and call for overthrow of the government, they have no "right" to shout that on Facegram, or Twitbook, or any other private sector venue. Same with bs about a potentially fatal pandemic virus. 

And no, I don't believe current day Conservatives want what is best for everyone. From what I read and hear in direct quotes, conservatives want what is best for them personally and everyone else can go pound sand. They want whatever weaponry they choose, and if a few thousand children die, well, oh well. They want to walk around spewing germs on whomever they choose because only old people die. They don't want big oil to pay taxes because their gas-guzzler only gets 8 miles per gallon. Climate change, schmitate change, the guvment will just rebuild my beach house every couple of years. 

17 hours ago, Daisy4RN said:

I am not sure why we keep giving tax payer money to Amtrak when they cant seem to get their issues fixed.

https://economics21.org/html/amtrak-bill-continues-history-wasted-subsidies-1263.html

Seems like a big boondoggle to me

https://nypost.com/2021/04/08/amtrak-joes-rail-line-will-blow-your-cash-on-pricey-repairs

Kinda like the very expensive one in California that has done nothing but suck taxpayer money for the "train" there.

Solving the Amtrak problem is beyond my paygrade.  But there you go again posting nothing burgers like the NY Post which isn't even trying to deliver 1/100th of the complexity of the real story in it's total devotion of 12 paragraphs to the Amtrak problem.  I have traveled many hours on the trains of the Northeast corridor and appreciate trying to impose 21st century technology on track systems laid out during the time of mules pulling barges along the Erie canal.  Reservations are required in advance because every seat is always filled.  The train can get you downtown to downtown in the same time it takes to fly to a large city's airport and keeps all of these folks out of the air.  All I can say right now is that the politicians of NY state will never let go of Amtrak because they want to get to Albany without getting in a plane.  Off the top of my head, I'd prefer a commission composed of engineers to make proposals over the politicians who have NO IDEA what it takes to keep the beast running.  Two hundred years of catering to the airlines at the expense of the train lines hasn't been in our interests.  

1 hour ago, Daisy4RN said:

Of course Google is tracking you and also keeping a record of every search etc.  They along with Twitter, and facebook etc are very left/liberal bias (kicking people who are Conservative off, not allowing the different opinions etc). Google will only show what they want you to see in the no 1 position and down and also on the first page. Their studies show that the vast majority of people never go to pg 2 because they "believe" Google is putting the best info up first. We have pretty much close to zero privacy anymore. 

Actually the first page is all about who pays the most unless you have an unusual, unique URL that makes the first page. 

1 hour ago, Daisy4RN said:

Believe it or not Conservatives want what is best for everyone too! It is exactly bc of that programming bias that you think otherwise.

We are losing our free and open society but nobody seems to care and it will be to the detriment of us all. 

People are afraid to speak out for fear of losing jobs etc just because of a different opinion. People are showing up at others houses and committing violence because they have been doxxed. 

I agree but it's about political correctness which I think is out of control except there are people who are insensitive, racist or plain irresponsible who actually need to be regulated. The doxxed ones are usually the serious haters like the extreme righters and they deserve it. 

1 hour ago, Daisy4RN said:

Our Country will not be able to stand when divided we fall, and we are falling. 

The question is, what comes next! You think it will be better, do you really trust the politicians and the elites that much?!

 

I absolutely trust this bunch! It's the difference between a competent Dr who quietly goes about his business and a blowhard who overcompensates for his insecurities and makes mistakes affecting everyone. 

48 minutes ago, nursej22 said:

People get kicked off of social media platforms for espousing dangerous, illegal actions. When they proclaim election fraud and call for overthrow of the government, they have no "right" to shout that on Facegram, or Twitbook, or any other private sector venue. Same with bs about a potentially fatal pandemic virus. 

And no, I don't believe current day Conservatives want what is best for everyone. From what I read and hear in direct quotes, conservatives want what is best for them personally and everyone else can go pound sand. They want whatever weaponry they choose, and if a few thousand children die, well, oh well. They want to walk around spewing germs on whomever they choose because only old people die. They don't want big oil to pay taxes because their gas-guzzler only gets 8 miles per gallon. Climate change, schmitate change, the guvment will just rebuild my beach house every couple of years. 

Damn, you are good with those names! I'm appropriating both. Facegram and Twitbook???

16 hours ago, Daisy4RN said:

didn't sound that reasonable after the Presidential election when Trump wanted the very same thing to prevent fraud did it?

 

I'm confused.  One can prevent fraud after the election is over.  Trump had multiple opportunities to go to court to plead fraud occurred but no proof.  Some of these judges were his own apointees.  Signatures on ballots are compared to signatures during the voting process to prevent fraud.  Signatures collected in front of a post office on a petition have no such safeguard and need to be checked that the person who signed is indeed eligible to sign the petition.   These are totally different processes so I don't understand your logic of not wanting signatures checked on petitions signed on the streets.  Both processes are set up to prevent fraud.  Are you only in favor of pro-Republican fraud?

1 hour ago, nursel56 said:

You should really start reading more than right-wing propaganda if you want to be accurately non-responsive to the facts I posted regarding trains in general, election laws that pre-date Gavin Newsom's tenure, and what bills are currently pending before the California legislature.

It's unfortunate that you completely dismiss the will of the people of California as evidenced by your ignoring of the facts included in my prior post. 

The fact-free stereotyping of the state is just annoying and very trite. I'm surprised you didn't include an attack on Hollywood elites and movie stars people often believe is a huge percentage of the population.

I understand you are in a hurry to respond to people, though and appreciate the effort in general regardless of the above.

Well from where I sit it sounds like you are the one being dismissive. I am not sure how having my own opinion about what is happening in Calif is being dismissive, there are many Republicans in Calif who also agree and the will of those people is to try to recall the Gov because of his incompetence and corruption , a legal process of our democracy. No stereotyping going on here, just the facts that maybe you won't see in the left wing news but are still there and completely obvious.

You are the one who joined the train conversation. As you said the voters approved this in 2008, the government has already wasted very much taxpayer money and still no train. Newsom could have scraped it entirely but has "continued" the project. Wonder how much longer, and how much more taxpayer money this will take. It is a joke!

You, and some others, either show no links to anything when you voice your opinion or use MSM/left wing propanganda sites, so not really seeing the problem when I am in fact voicing a different opinion. 

https://www.MSN.com/en-us/news/politics/california-e2-80-99s-bullet-train-project-faces-unprecedented-woes/ar-BB15PcpU

11 hours ago, Daisy4RN said:

Of course Google is tracking you and also keeping a record of every search etc.  They along with Twitter, and facebook etc are very left/liberal bias (kicking people who are Conservative off, not allowing the different opinions etc).

 

I call BS on this one.  There is nothing but differing of opinions on social media including FB and Twitter.  Lots of my friends have been sent to "jail" for varying reasons.

What they are trying to clean up are conspiracy lies and dangerous lies not "differences of opinion".   An example would be spreading lies about covid, kids posting videos of themselves eating Tide Pods, racist rants,  etc.

There are plenty of conservatives, and conservative groups on social media including Twitter and FB that give their opinion.  I see them all the time.   Given the overall dumbing down of America I can only imagine the thousands of workers they have trying to stop crazy.

But yes, when you're on the internet, you are being tracked.

On 4/30/2021 at 4:39 PM, Tweety said:

BTW, if you think "totally Dem run" is insulting to me, it's not.  I'm quite happy to make a totally Dem run any day.  It's who I am.  Thanks.

No, I did not think that would be insulting to you nor was I trying to be.

4 minutes ago, Tweety said:

I call BS on this one.  There is nothing but differing of opinions on social media including FB and Twitter.  Lots of my friends have been sent to "jail" for varying reasons.

What they are trying to clean up are conspiracy lies and dangerous lies not "differences of opinion".   An example would be spreading lies about covid, kids posting videos of themselves eating Tide Pods, racist rants,  etc.

There are plenty of conservatives, and conservative groups on social media including Twitter and FB that give their opinion.  I see them all the time.   Given the overall dumbing down of America I can only imagine the thousands of workers they have trying to stop crazy.

But yes, when you're on the internet, you are being tracked.

I am not saying that Conservatives are not allowed on the platforms at all, just that the company's are left leaning and favor those who also are. There have been former whistleblowers and employees who verify this as well as studies that show how they do it with their placement of ads, articles, Algorithms etc. As well as people getting kicked offed paused etc.

2 hours ago, Daisy4RN said:

I am not saying that Conservatives are not allowed on the platforms at all, just that the company's are left leaning and favor those who also are. There have been former whistleblowers and employees who verify this as well as studies that show how they do it with their placement of ads, articles, Algorithms etc. As well as people getting kicked offed paused etc.

Conservatives trigger their own algorithms on those social media platforms.  When any of the platforms offer content on your feed they are collecting data and guessing what else you might like.  When you click on the intriguing topic the algorithm sends you more that is similar or related.  That's part of the reason that so many of you are feeling emotional about things like "cancel culture" and repeating the same right wing narratives of victimhood, election fraud and impending doom at the hands of Biden. 

That's why conservatives feel singled out, when their algorithms have them believing and sharing misinformation, dangerous lies or propaganda the platforms pause or suspend access or actions. That happens to liberals too, getting in trouble.  Liberals just don't generally get into trouble for spreading election lies, support for sedition or covidiocy. That's not where their algorithms take them. 

How ‘Cancel Culture’ Became An Issue For Young Republicans

8 hours ago, Daisy4RN said:

I am not saying that Conservatives are not allowed on the platforms at all, just that the company's are left leaning and favor those who also are. There have been former whistleblowers and employees who verify this as well as studies that show how they do it with their placement of ads, articles, Algorithms etc. As well as people getting kicked offed paused etc.

You said "They along with Twitter, and facebook etc are very left/liberal bias (kicking people who are Conservative off, not allowing the different opinions etc".

It's the "not allowing differing opinions" that bothers me.

Yes, they did crack down on Q-Anon spreading their theories, and Twitter did get rid of Trump during the insurrection at the Capitol, which you seem to believe, of which I respect that is your opinion, that they are anti-Trump, anti-conservative and "very" left leaning.  

You're not alone, 90% of Republicans polled think social media is biased against them.  I won't change your mind.

I'm active on facebook and a simple search for example reveals at least four groups called "Conservative Women"  or "Take Back America", on and on and on, and the opinions and memes lets me know that conservative free speech and opinions are alive and well on facebook.  I follow our Democratic mayor and trust we when I say the misinformation and vile coming towards him from conservatives is alive and well.  

Free speech on social media is what lead to the rapid spread of the idea to answer Trump's call to March at the Capital and spread the news of all the "Trump Won" rallies across the country.

https://www.bbc.com/news/technology-54698186 

But it's also left wing sites and like anti-facsist that they after.

https://www.marketwatch.com/story/facebook-takes-down-hundreds-of-qanon-antifa-groups-pages-2020-08-19

At the end of the day they aren't there to just allow people to post whatever they choose.  They are there to make money.  Those those algorithms aren't necessarily "how can we spread the left-wing agenda and get rid of conservatives".  It's "how can we best make money".     If allowing Q-Anon or KKK or anyone access to spread hate, or allowing the President to spread false information around covid and other things loses them money, that's what's it's all about.    But also since billions have access now to those platforms perhaps they do have some sense of responsibility and morality besides greed.   Maybe, but I'm not convinced of that.