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After promising that most K-8 students would be in schools in the first 100 days,  apparently Joe is afraid to lead on this and has drastically scaled back that goal.

Instead, we're shooting for about half to go to school at least one day a week,  by the end of April.

https://www.usnews.com/news/education-news/articles/2021-02-09/bidens-goal-for-school-reopenings-suddenly-became-more-attainable

 

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The Times of Israel has an interesting article with Capital riot pictures documenting hate symbols used by those attending the riot.. Other articles document Neo-Nazis symbols, pictures along with extremist activities that influenced that fateful day.

A guide to the hate symbols and signs on display at the US Capitol riots
 

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Neo-Nazis

Prominent Holocaust deniers and neo-Nazis were part of the Capitol mob. A far-right activist known as Baked Alaska livestreamed from inside House Speaker Nancy Pelosi’s office. Another extremist, Nick Fuentes, a white nationalist who leads the far-right Groyper Army, was said to be in the room with him. Fuentes denies this but was outside the Capitol on Wednesday.

The neo-Nazi group NSC-131 also joined the insurrection, according to reporter Hilary Sargent. NSC stands for Nationalist Social Club and has small regional chapters in the United States and abroad. The 131 division is from New England.

 

Buzzfeed News

Trump Supporters Who Attempted The Coup At The US Capitol Flaunted Racist And Hateful Symbols

Washington Post

Alleged Capitol rioter that grew ‘Hitler’ mustache still active in Army

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A U.S. Army reservist arrested on suspicion of participating in the Jan. 6 Capitol riot was known to most of his co-workers as a white supremacist and Nazi sympathizer and grew a “Hitler mustache” while working as a Navy contractor with security clearance, according to federal prosecutors.

Timothy Hale-Cusanelli of Colts Neck, N.J., is among a growing number of people connected to the military or police who are charged with participating in the storming of the U.S. Capitol. The arrests come as law enforcement and military leaders confront the infiltration of their ranks by people with extremist ideologies. Hale-Cusanelli faces five federal charges, including three counts of crimes on restricted grounds....

...The interviews, as well as racist and offensive photos and cartoons found on Hale-Cusanelli’s phone, are not legal grounds to halt his release, prosecutors acknowledge. But they said the ideology is a driving force behind his aspiration for a “civil war,” making him a danger to the community. He deleted social media accounts and videos from his Youtube channel before his arrest, leading authorities to believe he could obstruct justice, according to the filing....

 

 

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19 hours ago, DesiDani said:

Reminiscent or not you still have to get on with your life. It is not productive. It is not logical to blame EVERYTHING going forward on Trump. So will Biden will be accountable for nothing. It is YOU that let's a perceived dealt bad hand be the basis of everything.

Even Cuomo is blaming Trump for his drama. That's rationale to you?

Just jumping in here because your post struck a particular chord, and perhaps it will make people's attitudes toward Trump slightly more understandable.

Your comment "it is not logical to blame EVERYTHING going forward on Trump." That would be a perfectly valid point if we were talking about opposing agendas between Republican and Democrat presidents before Trump, including Richard Nixon, the most villified President of the modern era.

I will preface my comment with a reference to a popular talking point of the Clinton era, "character matters". I now believe it's a damn shame that talking point was wasted on the Paula Jones deposition and a finger-wagging sound bite. 

I would argue that whatever happened there it cannot be demonstrated that it affected his performance as POTUS.

Trump's flaws of character affect every aspect of his performance as POTUS, and it may be years before we even approach knowing what damage those flaws have unleashed. From a policy angle, a great deal of the damage was caused by his stationing his fanatical loyalists across the federal bureaucracy.

Another factor to consider is that while it was amply demonstrated that Trump attempted to damage the current president using the powers of the office he held, much of the damage occurs to people in areas where it is largely happenstance that the news media will pick it up.  Now that those Trump people aren't around to bury evidence of Trump's thorough corruption, at least some of it will come to light, albeit probably slowly and incompletely.

I just don't think it's right to apply typical political slogans to that person and his administration. The worst is yet to come.

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1 hour ago, chare said:

Nazis?  Really?  You've used this term in two consecutive posts.  In the first, when you referred to members of Mr. Trumps cabinet, I think it's clear who you're referring to.  However, in your second post you refer to "those  who support policies and laws that cause inequality for black, brown, and indigenous people..." 

Who exactly are you referring to here?   

I would agree, Godwin's law comes into play frequently around here.  And I would also agree since Trumpism and Nazism are two different forms of fascism, they aren't interchangeable terms.

But I would agree that in reference to whether we should just assume Trump and his pro-sedition followers have learned their lesson and that we can put that all behind us the rise of Nazism is relevant.  Hitler and his followers started out with a small faction of insurrectionists who made a failed attempt at a coup, which after it failed everyone assumed they could consider that sort of thing to be in the past, that didn't work out for them.

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Fun read:  ODNI's declassified Intelligence Community assessment of foreign threats to the 2020 US federal elections --  from the confidential report presented on January 7th,  2021 to  the President, Senior Executive Branch officials, Congressional leadership and Intelligence oversight committee.

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CNN:

US intelligence report says Russia used Trump allies to influence 2020 election with goal of 'denigrating' Biden

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The US intelligence community said in a landmark report Tuesday that the Russian government meddled in the 2020 election with an influence campaign "denigrating" President Joe Biden and "supporting" former President Donald Trump, detailing a massive disinformation push that successfully targeted, and was openly embraced, by Trump's allies.

Russia's objectives were not limited to hurting Biden's candidacy and aiding Trump's reelection bid, the report says, as US intelligence found that Moscow also sought to undermine "public confidence in the electoral process and exacerbate sociopolitical divisions in the US."...

Russia used people close to Trump to spread disinformation

Russia's efforts to influence the 2020 elections feature prominently in the report, which details how "proxies linked to Russian intelligence" were used to push unsubstantiated claims about Biden to into the American mainstream.

"A key element of Moscow's strategy this election cycle was its use of proxies linked to Russian intelligence to push influence narratives -- including misleading or unsubstantiated allegations against President Biden -- to US media organizations, US officials, and prominent US individuals, including some close to former President Trump and his administration," the report says....

...For example, the US intelligence agencies assessed that Putin "had purview over the activities of Andriy Derkach," the Ukrainian lawmaker who met with Trump attorney Rudy Giuliani and repeatedly promoted anti-Biden disinformation. By tying Putin directly to Derkach's actions, the report only puts one degree of separation between the Russian leader and Trump's lawyer.....

 

 

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Picked up my car from repair shop in Philly yesterday..... hadn't seen so many police along highway near airport since the Pope visited few years ago. Son wondered what was going on--told him Biden was coming to Chester re Covid Economic Plan rollout.

Delco Times

President Joe Biden rolls out 'Help Is Here' campaign at stop in Chester

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President Joe Biden made two stops in Delaware County Tuesday as part of his "Help Is Here" tour to highlighted how the American Rescue Plan addresses the need for vaccine and economic relief for small businesses and individuals.

His first stop was at Smith Flooring, a Black-owned union shop  in Chester, followed by another at the Darby Borough Recreation Center. The visits were the first the president has made outside Washington since his inauguration and were on the heels of the recent passage of the $1.9 million American Rescue Plan....

 

 

Biden talks Cuomo, Putin, migrants, vaccine in ABC News exclusive interview I

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President Joe Biden sat down with ABC News' George Stephanopoulos for a wide-ranging interview Tuesday in which he said his message to migrants was to not come to the border and that New York Gov. Andrew Cuomo should resign if allegations he committed sexual harassment are confirmed.

Biden also told Stephanopoulos that he agreed Russian President Vladimir Putin was a "killer" and would "pay a price" for interfering in U.S. elections.

And he said it would be "tough" to withdraw all American troops from Afghanistan by May 1, a deadline set out in a deal former President Donald Trump's administration made with the Taliban....

 

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15 hours ago, chare said:

Nazis?  Really?  You've used this term in two consecutive posts.  In the first, when you referred to members of Mr. Trumps cabinet, I think it's clear who you're referring to.  However, in your second post you refer to "those  who support policies and laws that cause inequality for black, brown, and indigenous people..." 

Who exactly are you referring to here?   

The rioters who carried a swastika flag in DC.  The Proud Boys who aren't crazy about anything but mayonnaise.  

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2 hours ago, NRSKarenRN said:

Picked up my car from repair shop in Philly yesterday..... hadn't seen so many police along highway near airport since the Pope visited few years ago. Son wondered what was going on--told him Biden was coming to Chester re Covid Economic Plan rollout.

 

I'm happy to see the escorts while he is working versus a whole lot of golf being played...

2 hours ago, subee said:

The rioters who carried a swastika flag in DC.  The Proud Boys who aren't crazy about anything but mayonnaise.  

A swastika flag?  Really?  I saw America First, Betsy Ross, Confederate, Gadsen, Kekistan, Liberty, and Three Percenter flags.  In addition to the usual fare associated with some of Mr. Trump’s far/extreme right supporters. I saw Crusader crosses and Norse symbols, 1776 memorabilia,and of course the Punisher had to make his presence known as well.  And Pepe the frog made an appearance as well. 

But a swastika flag?  The Jerusalem Post noted that some Twitter users reported seeing a swastika, but it wasn’t clear. 

But a swastika flag?

Capitol riots: What far-right hate symbols were on display?

Flags, Hate Symbols and QAnon Shirts: Decoding the Capitol Riot

Identifying far-right symbols that appeared at the U.S. Capitol riot

Several groups of extremists stormed … some of the most notable individuals, symbols, and groups

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1 minute ago, chare said:

A swastika flag?  Really?  I saw America First, Betsy Ross, Confederate, Gadsen, Kekistan, Liberty, and Three Percenter flags.  In addition to the usual fare associated with some of Mr. Trump’s far/extreme right supporters. I saw Crusader crosses and Norse symbols, 1776 memorabilia,and of course the Punisher had to make his presence known as well.  And Pepe the frog made an appearance as well. 

But a swastika flag?  The Jerusalem Post noted that some Twitter users reported seeing a swastika, but it wasn’t clear. 

But a swastika flag?

Capitol riots: What far-right hate symbols were on display?

Flags, Hate Symbols and QAnon Shirts: Decoding the Capitol Riot

Identifying far-right symbols that appeared at the U.S. Capitol riot

Several groups of extremists stormed … some of the most notable individuals, symbols, and groups

Are you trying to make the point that modern American fascists were not among the insurrectionists? Did you think that the Nazi symbol on the stage of CPAC was a happy coincidence?  Was it simply an innocent error?

24 minutes ago, toomuchbaloney said:

Are you trying to make the point that modern American fascists were not among the insurrectionists? ...

No, not at all.  You personally have called for Beerman to post sources for some of what he or she has posted.  And, I have occasionally been asked to do the same.  I don't think it's too much to expect this from those posting on the opposite side of an issue.

24 minutes ago, toomuchbaloney said:

... Did you think that the Nazi symbol on the stage of CPAC was a happy coincidence?  Was it simply an innocent error?

I have no idea.  It's possible.  It's also possible that this was an unintended consequence, as the Design Foundry, the stage design company that created the layout stated.

5 minutes ago, chare said:

No, not at all.  You personally have called for Beerman to post sources for some of what he or she has posted.  And, I have occasionally been asked to do the same.  I don't think it's too much to expect this from those posting on the opposite side of an issue.

I have no idea.  It's possible.  It's also possible that this was an unintended consequence, as the Design Foundry, the stage design company that created the layout stated.

So unlikely as to be impossible. You have to look carefully to know what the sign represents and you can't replicate it without effort. 

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7 minutes ago, chare said:

No, not at all.  You personally have called for Beerman to post sources for some of what he or she has posted.  And, I have occasionally been asked to do the same.  I don't think it's too much to expect this from those posting on the opposite side of an issue.

I have no idea.  It's possible.  It's also possible that this was an unintended consequence, as the Design Foundry, the stage design company that created the layout stated.

That article is not readable secondary to an ad that blocks the content.  I am not surprised that the designers might claim that it was an innocent accident, it's not very believable. Or maybe it just reflects more of that Trumpian lack of attention to detail?  That seems like a silly excuse but it will likely be readily accepted in the right wing media bubble.

Business Insider Nazi Coincidence

 

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