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After promising that most K-8 students would be in schools in the first 100 days,  apparently Joe is afraid to lead on this and has drastically scaled back that goal.

Instead, we're shooting for about half to go to school at least one day a week,  by the end of April.

https://www.usnews.com/news/education-news/articles/2021-02-09/bidens-goal-for-school-reopenings-suddenly-became-more-attainable

 

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3 hours ago, toomuchbaloney said:

Good question.  This has been discussed, at least quietly in academic circles, since WW2.

Lies and Propaganda: How to Sort Fact from Fiction

Ask yourself why "fake news" has current political meaning in the USA?

Read this. How many of these are you guilty of? 

https://soapboxie.com/world-politics/The-Anatomy-of-Propaganda

Technically we all partake in propaganda, some more than other. 

But let me guess, because this link is posted by me it is as well propaganda? 

Pay close attention to point number 1. Name calling. 

23 minutes ago, Beerman said:

Yiu haven't figured it out?

Liberal biased news and opinion is trusted media.

Conservative biased news and opinion is propaganda.

Right? And I'm a Nazi white supremacists conspiracy theorist because I like Trump! 

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9 minutes ago, nursel56 said:

"Conservative" isn't some sort of homogenous product anymore.  Lots of fratricide going on.  Especially as some "conservatives" are detaching themselves entirely from the cool logic displayed by historic personages such as William F. Buckley, George Will, and Bill Kristol or even the "compassionate conservative" Jack Kemp.  (He didn't want to let people in need rot in place, he thought Reaganomics would eventually raise all the boats)

The Marjorie Taylor Greene wing has nothing in common with them at present, and her trajectory toward Outer Space is only steepening by the moment, no matter how many lazy mainstream media journalists choose to ignore it.

I express my own opinions and link to opinion pieces.  I'm no where near where Greene is.

Yet I'm frequently dismissed as someone who is under the influence of conservative propaganda, and that I'm a "cultist".

 

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7 minutes ago, Beerman said:

I express my own opinions and link to opinion pieces.  I'm no where near where Greene is.

Yet I'm frequently dismissed as someone who is under the influence of conservative propaganda, and that I'm a "cultist".

 

I haven't used those terms.  I just wanted to point out this comment...

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Liberal biased news and opinion is trusted media.

Conservative biased news and opinion is propaganda.

 

....is trending toward over-simplification due to the shifting Republican political landscape.

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38 minutes ago, Cclm said:

Read this. How many of these are you guilty of? 

https://soapboxie.com/world-politics/The-Anatomy-of-Propaganda

Technically we all partake in propaganda, some more than other. 

But let me guess, because this link is posted by me it is as well propaganda? 

Pay close attention to point number 1. Name calling. 

Right? And I'm a Nazi white supremacists conspiracy theorist because I like Trump! 

That's a good article about propaganda.  

The problem with being a Trump supporter is all the garbage that goes along with Trump going way back to "grab em by the xxx", to saying that a group of white supremists had some fine people, to his many lies and childish behaviors, to a good deal of his supporters believing the election was stolen, to some of his supporters overtaking the capital.   It's your burden to bear even if it doesn't describe you personally or republicans in general.

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10 minutes ago, nursel56 said:

 

I haven't used those terms.  

No, I don't recall that you have.

The person I made those comments to, posed the question to a poster who frequently does.

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42 minutes ago, Cclm said:

Read this. How many of these are you guilty of? 

https://soapboxie.com/world-politics/The-Anatomy-of-Propaganda

Technically we all partake in propaganda, some more than other. 

But let me guess, because this link is posted by me it is as well propaganda? 

Pay close attention to point number 1. Name calling. 

Right? And I'm a Nazi white supremacists conspiracy theorist because I like Trump! 

No...technically. we all partake in biased media. The only propaganda that I'm consuming is offered up for examination as evidence of something.  

Your question about how many am I guilty of sort of misses the point.  I am not a propagandist. I don't share propaganda.  I share information that has been vetted and credibly reported.  I personally most certainly have a bias that trends left of center. 

Why would that link be considered propaganda? It used slightly different terms, did you think it was substantially different than the source I provided on propaganda?

Yes, name calling.  Like Trumper, or Trump supporter? Or is it bothersome when it is noted that Trump is very popular among racist groups and neo-nazi/alt-right organizations? You'll only get labeled that way if defend their stances or use their rhetoric.  Otherwise you just have to know that you share membership in a larger group with them because you share the same goals. 

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24 minutes ago, toomuchbaloney said:

No...technically. we all partake in biased media. The only propaganda that I'm consuming is offered up for examination as evidence of something.  

Your question about how many am I guilty of sort of misses the point.  I am not a propagandist. I don't share propaganda.  I share information that has been vetted and credibly reported.  I personally most certainly have a bias that trends left of center. 

Why would that link be considered propaganda? It used slightly different terms, did you think it was substantially different than the source I provided on propaganda?

Yes, name calling.  Like Trumper, or Trump supporter? Or is it bothersome when it is noted that Trump is very popular among racist groups and neo-nazi/alt-right organizations? You'll only get labeled that way if defend their stances or use their rhetoric.  Otherwise you just have to know that you share membership in a larger group with them because you share the same goals. 

That's number 10. Faulty cause and effect. 

Premise 1: Joe Smith supports gun-control legislation.

Premise 2: All fascist organizations have passed gun-control legislation.

Conclusion: Therefore, Joe Smith is a fascist.

Some Racist support Trump, Trump supporters/Trump is a  racist. 

Propaganda! 

 

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You are a propagandist.  We all are to a point, however you scream propaganda allot. Propaganda has become point 1 name calling for ypu. I don't like your post, you're a propagandist.  

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4 hours ago, Cclm said:

 

You are a propagandist.  We all are to a point, however you scream propaganda allot. Propaganda has become point 1 name calling for ypu. I don't like your post, you're a propagandist.  

I know that you don't like my post but you are confused.  Are you trying to over simplify the concept of propaganda? You didn't comment on or answer my question about the source that I offered on propaganda.  I talk about propaganda a great deal because conservative politics.and social media today is full of propaganda.  From nonsense about elections to critical race theory craziness to covid delusions, right wing media has been filled up with "free thinkers". 

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25 minutes ago, Cclm said:

 

You are a propagandist.  We all are to a point, however you scream propaganda allot. Propaganda has become point 1 name calling for ypu. I don't like your post, you're a propagandist.  

I don't like your posts because I believe that anyone who supports Trump links himself to repulsivity.  No other ignorant person has crafted propaganda to his advantage and suckered so many people into his sphere of ignoramus cultists.  H has some of the talent and cunning of Hitler but just lacks the drive.  You will have to point out to me where TMB posts propaganda.  He generally shares factual information...just cold facts without the attached emotion of anger and misogyny that Trump screams during his public speaking.  There's no reason Trump would do anything to improve your life because you can't give a huge contribution.   He calls you a sucker for paying taxes.  For some reason, you have fallen fo his Reich whisperer  neurolinguistic skills .  

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31 minutes ago, toomuchbaloney said:

I know that you don't like my post but you are confused.  Are you trying to over simplify the concept of propaganda? You didn't comment on or answer my question about the source that I offered on propaganda.  I talk about propaganda a great deal because conservative politics.and social media today is full of propaganda.  From nonsense about elections to critical race theory craziness to covid delusions, right wing media has beenough filled up with "free thinkers". 

Oh the democrats spout the same crap. All politics are propaganda.  I just find the similarities from you when you are the most vocal about propaganda 

31 minutes ago, subee said:

I don't like your posts because I believe that anyone who supports Trump links himself to repulsivity.  No other ignorant person has crafted propaganda to his advantage and suckered so many people into his sphere of ignoramus cultists.  H has some of the talent and cunning of Hitler but just lacks the drive.  You will have to point out to me where TMB posts propaganda.  He generally shares factual information...just cold facts without the attached emotion of anger and misogyny that Trump screams during his public speaking.  There's no reason Trump would do anything to improve your life because you can't give a huge contribution.   He calls you a sucker for paying taxes.  For some reason, you have fallen fo his Reich whisperer  neurolinguistic skills .  

Yes. All Trump supporters are dumb conspiracy theorist Nazi. Everyone. 

All you wrote above is opinion 

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1 hour ago, Cclm said:

Oh the democrats spout the same crap. All politics are propaganda.  I just find the similarities from you when you are the most vocal about propaganda 

Yes. All Trump supporters are dumb conspiracy theorist Nazi. Everyone. 

All you wrote above is opinion 

No, all politics is not propaganda.  

 

"Propaganda is the more or less systematic effort to manipulate other people’s beliefs, attitudes, or actions by means of symbols (words, gestures, banners, monuments, music, clothing, insignia, hairstyles, designs on coins and postage stamps, and so forth). Deliberateness and a relatively heavy emphasis on manipulation distinguish propaganda from casual conversation or the free and easy exchange of ideas."

You find similarities in what? I'm aware of the problem with propaganda and I have pointed out the evidence of propaganda.  

Yes, when we comment here we are stating our opinions. Often, a credible citation is offered to support or clarify an opinion.  

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4 hours ago, Cclm said:

 

You are a propagandist.  We all are to a point, however you scream propaganda allot. Propaganda has become point 1 name calling for ypu. I don't like your post, you're a propagandist.  

I don't like your posts because I don't like people who support people who lose elections, get twice impeached, is a racist, misogynistic, rapist, pedophilic pig and seems to have cornered the market on losing. 

I hear that they are planning to change the description of losing, to trumping or is that farting ??️?????

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