President Biden thread

17 hours ago, toomuchbaloney said:

 

 

Read carefully.

That's not what I said. Read carefully.. 

11 hours ago, nursel56 said:

Well, I've noticed you make an extra effort to be fair to both sides, which in itself requires more deliberation and patience, and unfortunately very often the result is both sides get mad at you.

I've tried to do this myself, not always successfully . . .

Ask yourself honestly who you got the most hateful comments from. But do it honestly. 

43 minutes ago, Cclm said:

That's not what I said. Read carefully.. 

Ask yourself honestly who you got the most hateful comments from. But do it honestly. 

You made the comparison. Now you are justifying and defending the comparison with semantics. 

Why don't you tell us who you "feel" received the most "hateful" comments and where they came from.  But do it honestly.  

Does your media cause you to think in terms of "hate" when you consider political policy or discussion? 

1 hour ago, Tweety said:

I know it wasn't meant for me, but I answered because I apparently have the traits that triggered his response.  

Actually I responded to the anger response because I thought I asked Cclm the question because he always seems frustrated and angry. 

Like I said, I frequently just read the post without knowing who wrote it so as to be objective if I had to respond. I have occasionally liked some of Beerman's responses, very few but some. 

Apologies again. 

2 hours ago, toomuchbaloney said:

You made the comparison. Now you are justifying and defending the comparison with semantics. 

Why don't you tell us who you "feel" received the most "hateful" comments and where they came from.  But do it honestly.  

Does your media cause you to think in terms of "hate" when you consider political policy or discussion? 

I made a comparison about the idea that one group is responsible for all that's bad and the suffering of another group. Simular Nazi rhetoric.  

I did not say white men are being treated like the Jewish people in the holocaust that's redicoulas.  You know that but use willfull ignorance.  There is a lesson that if it's okay to hate one group today, then it will be okay to do it to  different group  tomorrow until everyone hates each other. Characterizing someone for their skin color as oppressor, evil, born with racism, accountable for past crimes of those with the Same, criminals etc. Is never okay regardless of the skin color. Ever!

However allot of hateful comments have come from you. You have alloted to me as having Nazi white supremacists thinking or association(without knowing my race and not know I'm not white). You have done this to several members. Not to mention saying things to the like of (paraphrasing), conservatives are stupid, ignorant, Nazis, white supremacists, angry white men, deserving of I'll fate for not getting vaccine, selfish and general disrespect to anyone who doesn't agree with you. 

Some of your post make me wonder why there is so much hate in people's heart for simply having a different opinion. 

5 minutes ago, Cclm said:

I made a comparison about the idea that one group is responsible for all that's bad and the suffering of another group. Simular Nazi rhetoric.  

You said what you said. Now you are trying to explain what you meant by that comparison. Maybe you should be more careful with your rhetoric and Nazi references. 

8 minutes ago, Cclm said:

You have alloted to me as having Nazi white supremacists thinking or association(without knowing my race and not know I'm not white).

I comment in response to your comments and words.  Your skin color is irrelevant to these threads, in large part...I'm certainly not the one bringing it up. 

10 minutes ago, Cclm said:

You have done this to several members. Not to mention saying things to the like of (paraphrasing), conservatives are stupid, ignorant, Nazis, white supremacists, angry white men, deserving of I'll fate for not getting vaccine, selfish and general disrespect to anyone who doesn't agree with you. 

I wonder if you think that these threads aren't adequately moderated? 

When members use the language and tactics of propagandists or extremists in religion or politics, that stuff is going to get called out and some of us will be more direct than others. There are a bunch of people who apparently fill the majority of their media consumption with very biased and not terribly accurate sources. They toss about language about MSM and hate. If you fall into that, we'll likely have dialog.

17 minutes ago, Cclm said:



Some of your post make me wonder why there is so much hate in people's heart for simply having a different opinion. 

See? Hate...why is that the emotion that you are feeling and projecting onto me?

23 minutes ago, Cclm said:

I made a comparison about the idea that one group is responsible for all that's bad and the suffering of another group. Simular Nazi rhetoric.  

I did not say white men are being treated like the Jewish people in the holocaust that's redicoulas.  You know that but use willfull ignorance.  There is a lesson that if it's okay to hate one group today, then it will be okay to do it to  different group  tomorrow until everyone hates each other. Characterizing someone for their skin color as oppressor, evil, born with racism, accountable for past crimes of those with the Same, criminals etc. Is never okay regardless of the skin color. Ever!

However allot of hateful comments have come from you. You have alloted to me as having Nazi white supremacists thinking or association(without knowing my race and not know I'm not white). You have done this to several members. Not to mention saying things to the like of (paraphrasing), conservatives are stupid, ignorant, Nazis, white supremacists, angry white men, deserving of I'll fate for not getting vaccine, selfish and general disrespect to anyone who doesn't agree with you. 

Some of your post make me wonder why there is so much hate in people's heart for simply having a different opinion. 

You did compare the plight of white men to Jews.  Unfortunately I cannot copy and paste it.  But TMB already did that for you and you still deny what you said when it's in print on this thread.  

5 hours ago, toomuchbaloney said:

You said what you said. Now you are trying to explain what you meant by that comparison. Maybe you should be more careful with your rhetoric and Nazi references. 

 

I comment in response to your comments and words.  Your skin color is irrelevant to these threads, in large part...I'm certainly not the one bringing it up. 

 

I wonder if you think that these threads aren't adequately moderated? 

When members use the language and tactics of propagandists or extremists in religion or politics, that stuff is going to get called out and some of us will be more direct than others. There are a bunch of people who apparently fill the majority of their media consumption with very biased and not terribly accurate sources. They toss about language about MSM and hate. If you fall into that, we'll likely have dialog.

See? Hate...why is that the emotion that you are feeling and projecting onto me?

Yes. Skin color is irrelevant!! Good 

I do not hate anyone. Maybe you should be more carefully with who you call a white supremacists and a Nazi. You have done it multiple times. To several people in a effort to shut them up. Well I'm not put off so easily. Do you think it's a little insulting to family of the holocaust survivors when you use Nazi and white supremacists so frivolously(anyone who doesn't agree)?  Down right dusrespectful to people who have endured real Nazi hate!! 

Yes.people fall into your self confessed bad media, "Trumpers" white supremacists and all dialog and opinions that don't match yours is propaganda.  Got it. Keep on being a tolerant inclusive democrat while partaking in behaviors and rhetoric that you would say is nazi and propaganda to anyone else that doesn't agree with you. 

15 minutes ago, nursel56 said:

I don't know what you mean by hateful comments. 

If you mean do I feel personally attacked I would say I've rarely felt that way here.

If it's something else let me know. I have no reason to be dishonest about anything on a politics forum.

That was for TMB 

1 hour ago, subee said:

You did compare the plight of white men to Jews.  Unfortunately I cannot copy and paste it.  But TMB already did that for you and you still deny what you said when it's in print on this thread.  

That's not what I meant and you know it. Comparing anyone of any color to that of the Jewish people is completely idiotic. 

As redicoulas as saying that Jan 6 was worse than Sept 11. However I wouldn't be surprised if some here actually think that. Loool

31 minutes ago, Cclm said:

That's not what I meant and you know it. Comparing anyone of any color to that of the Jewish people is completely idiotic. 

As redicoulas as saying that Jan 6 was worse than Sept 11. However I wouldn't be surprised if some here actually think that. Loool

January 6th is worse in the sense that it was incited and carried out by Americans in an attempt to overcome our republic and establish some other form of government with Trump at the helm. Not as bat in terms of physical destruction of life, but definitely more dangerous for the country and our way of life. IMV

All Americans recognize that 9/11 was a threat.  Today 30% of the American population think that 010621 was nothing but a peaceful protest.

16 minutes ago, toomuchbaloney said:

January 6th is worse in the sense that it was incited and carried out by Americans in an attempt to overcome our republic and establish some other form of government with Trump at the helm. Not as bat in terms of physical destruction of life, but definitely more dangerous for the country and our way of life. IMV

All Americans recognize that 9/11 was a threat.  Today 30% of the American population think that 010621 was nothing but a peaceful protest.

Yup!! Knew it. Wow. I'm not surprised you would say something like that! 

Not even close. 3000 people died that day. 1 person died directly on Jan. 6(cops were not killed, that's been debunked). 1 Trump supporter. 

It's not worse in anyway. That's also like saying a mass shooting is kinda as bad as the holocaust.  

Thinking it was even comparable is right put there with pizza gate. Get out of the US if you think it's so bad.  Check out Afganistan.  You seem to propriate the same ideologies as the Taliban.  

Wow